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May God Help The United States: The FBI Isn't Going To!
BushCountry.org ^ | 08/160/02 | Jeremy Reynalds

Posted on 08/16/2002 8:51:03 AM PDT by justme346

Jeremy Reynalds is a freelance writer and the founder and director of Joy Junction, New Mexico's largest emergency homeless shelter. He has a master's degree in communication from the University of New Mexico and is pursuing his PhD in intercultural education at Biola University in Los Angeles. He is married with five children and lives in Albuquerque, New Mexico. His work can be viewed here and weekly at www.americasvoices.org. He may be contacted by e-mail at reynalds@joyjunction.org


May God Help The United States: The FBI Isn't Going To!
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May God help the United States, because the FBI isn't going to. If you discover a plot to blow up the United States tonight, if it's after 5 p.m. don't try telling the FBI (at least the Atlanta Ga. Field office). They'll take a message and have someone call you back tomorrow (maybe!)

Sadly, you don't fare a whole lot better if it's before 5 p.m. Earlier today I was e mailed a tip that the al Qaeda's Alneda.com terrorist web site was back on line under a different address. This was the web site believed by officials to have been used by al-Qaeda to deliver messages possibly connected with further attacks.

The new site can be found at this address: http://www.securesite8.com/~news4/. After doing a little electronic investigation and discovering that the site's internet service provider was based in Atlanta Ga., I contacted the FBI Field Office there. I was connected to an answering machine where I left a message. While I was hopeful that I would get a call back based upon some previous dealings with other FBI Field Offices I wasn't over optimistic.

On the way to a business luncheon about half an hour later, my cell phone rang. It was the Atlanta FBI asking me what I needed. I told the individual what I had discovered and she asked me to repeat the address for the site – which I had already left on an FBI answering machine. I explained that I had left the office for an appointment and the site address had totally slipped my mind. The woman (who refused to identify herself for "security reasons") then rattled off an FBI e mail address and asked me to mail the information I had to the bureau.

Explaining that I was driving and couldn't take down the address didn't help, so I asked the woman if she could send me an e mail so I would have her address. Then I could send her the information once I returned to the office. Unbelievably she told me that was not her responsibility. It was mine, she said, and if I wanted to pass on the information I would have to contact her.

Returning to the office I later placed another call to the FBI's Atlanta Field Office hoping for at least a marginal improvement in attitude. No such luck. Different people, same attitude! Whoever answered the phone told me to leave a message with her and she would pass it on to the appropriate people who would call me back tomorrow.

I didn't fare a whole lot better with the ISP either, even though they were admittedly a whole lot nicer than the FBI in their response. dv2.com's Mark Howard told me by e mail, "If it is an illegal site, then we will take action against our customers, but we will have to be able to read it first."

A J. Hinkle also from dv2.com sent me a similar message, writing "I walk a fine line with free speech (which you as a writer understand) and patriotism - I think both are extremely important and in fact intertwined. Let me know what it (the web site) says so I can evaluate it."

A spokesman who later called me from the company said he would be happy to take it down if the FBI called him and said it was a dangerous site. Well, based upon my experiences today with the Fibbi's, there's a fat chance of that happening.

Let me remind you why this web site is so important. A few weeks ago, cyberterrorism expert Ben Venzke told USA Today that the original alneda.com site was "one of the only sites, if not the only site, for statements by al-qaeda and the Taliban."

Apparent mirror sites www.drasat.com and http://66.132.29.171 which sprang up after the original alneda.com was taken off line appeared to be non-updated duplicates of that site, mainly reprinting anti-American and anti-Israeli rhetoric from other media sources. It remains to be seen what's on this site but one thing is clear for sure: the FBI isn't in a hurry to find out.

Jeremy Reynalds is a freelance writer and the founder and director of Joy Junction, New Mexico's largest emergency homeless shelter. He has a master's degree in communication from the University of New Mexico and is pursuing his PhD in intercultural education at Biola University in Los Angeles. He is married with five children and lives in Albuquerque, New Mexico. His work can be viewed here and weekly at www.americasvoices.org. He may be contacted by e-mail at reynalds@joyjunction.org



TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alneda; fbi; islamicviolence; isp; jihadinamerica; talibanlist; terrorist; website
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Please contact your State Representatives on this. This will be the ONLY way it seems to get this done.
1 posted on 08/16/2002 8:51:03 AM PDT by justme346
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Don't call the FBI. There probably too busy breaking up a brothel or smearing someone on the anthrax screw-up. Me thinks we can't go forward w/o revamping everything & everybody in gov & reduce it 50% plus.
2 posted on 08/16/2002 9:20:44 AM PDT by Digger
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To: justme346
Yikes! Almost seems like they WANT another 'event' to happen. Wonder what it will take overhaul the Feds?
3 posted on 08/16/2002 9:23:20 AM PDT by pgobrien
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To: pgobrien; Aaron_A; LibWhacker; facedown; MarMema; JohnathanRGalt; knighthawk; Cynderbean; ...
Jehadi website ping: (let me know if you want on or off)

Yikes! Almost seems like they WANT another 'event' to happen. Wonder what it will take overhaul the Feds?

I've been working on this subject for a long time -- I've even helped the author of this article with a little of his research on the subject. That's the impression that's been building up in my mind (for the past year).

[Ashcroft's] greatest problem has been preserving a level of panic and fear that would induce a free people to surrender the rights so dearly won by their ancestors. Is this why all the Islamist terrorist groups (Hamas, Hezbullah, Laskar Jehad, ...) are given free reign to continue to operate in this country?

4 posted on 08/16/2002 10:23:42 AM PDT by JohnathanRGalt
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[Ashcroft's] greatest problem has been preserving a level of panic and fear that would induce a free people to surrender the rights so dearly won by their ancestors

Please. Next you will tell me he is waiting for Y2K to spring the trap. Lose the hyperbole.

5 posted on 08/16/2002 10:32:30 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: justme346
Shouldn't "A J. Hinkle from dv2.com" take down an arabic site *until* he can verify what it says? It's mere connection with alneda should be enough for him to shut it down. If alneda had coded messaged, this site will too, even if the posts on the message board seem innocuous.

No American should sponsor an Arabic site of undetermined origin and content at this time.

I think Hinkle needs a good freeping and plenty of public exposure. No way would he say the things he said unless he is in on the deal with alneda.

6 posted on 08/16/2002 10:42:49 AM PDT by SarahW
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To: SarahW
I contacted Dv2.com, I hope others do as well.
7 posted on 08/16/2002 10:56:14 AM PDT by SarahW
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To: AppyPappy
Please. Next you will tell me he is waiting for Y2K to spring the trap. Lose the hyperbole.

Sorry, I let my in-grown paranoia get the best of me.

If you'd spent as much time surfing the websites of terrorists (and then did a traceroute back to their origins somewhere in the USA) as I have you'd probably be just as paranoid.

I'll do my best to tone it down.

8 posted on 08/16/2002 11:04:42 AM PDT by JohnathanRGalt
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To: justme346

(Source: Bloodhound Daily's Chris Hiers cartoon).

9 posted on 08/16/2002 11:26:08 AM PDT by JohnathanRGalt
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"I walk a fine line with free speech . . ."

What a lame, bulls**t response! The First Amendment only prohibits government from making laws abridging freedom of speech. But any number of other entities (e.g., your boss) can tell you to shut your trap at any time without violating your First Amendment rights. What the heck are they teaching in the schools nowadays?

10 posted on 08/16/2002 12:15:29 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: JohnathanRGalt
bump
11 posted on 08/16/2002 12:19:19 PM PDT by billbears
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To: justme346
This is a re-post. Short version. In May my daughter and three friends were trying to stay at the Gallatin Tenn
S _ _ _ _ 8 and something happened and they wanted to see the manager and all management was Pakistani ( that's OK) but would not tell the girls their names and so the girls went out to photograph the offending area and were instantly surrounded by a group of Pakistanis from nowhere who would not let them take pictures. Skipping along. The girls went to a Doubletree. My daughter called the INS first and they said possible illegals were not their problem. She then called the Richmond FBI because she had access to Virginia information. She got the FBI office in Richmond Virginia and they told her it was not their problem to go find an FBI office in Gallatin Tennessee ( there is none). Someone today on FR scolded me for not being more congratulatory of the FBI. To me they are just RenoRemnants of secret police and the only people in danger are United States Citizens whose freeedoms they enjoy trampling. Sorry, but that's the way I see it. OBVIOUSLY this stuff is STILL GOING ON WHILE GEORGE II IS VACATIONING AND COMPARING OSTRICH BOOTS WITH VINCENTE !
12 posted on 08/16/2002 12:28:49 PM PDT by chemainus
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To: justme346
FLAME YOUR CONGRESSMEN ON THIS ! hell they aren't much better if at all
13 posted on 08/16/2002 12:30:51 PM PDT by chemainus
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To: JohnathanRGalt
[Ashcroft's] greatest problem has been preserving a level of panic and fear that would induce a free people to surrender the rights so dearly won by their ancestors. Is this why all the Islamist terrorist groups (Hamas, Hezbullah, Laskar Jehad, ...) are given free reign to continue to operate in this country?

I don't know about that. I still think that the whole thing hinges on the oil connection, and the all-too-cozy relationship between the New World Order financial elitists and the muslim oil barons, such as the Saudis, who finance terrorism and other forms of islamic subversion.

We need a massive program to develop advanced energy technologies instead, and a foreign and domestic policy that builds up Judeo-Christian civilization and freedom rather than islamic supremacism and a new Dark Age!!!!

14 posted on 08/16/2002 12:56:07 PM PDT by Honorary Serb
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In May my daughter and three friends were trying to stay at the Gallatin Tenn S _ _ _ _ 8 and something happened and they wanted to see the manager and all management was Pakistani ( that's OK) but would not tell the girls their names and so the girls went out to photograph the offending area and were instantly surrounded by a group of Pakistanis from nowhere who would not let them take pictures.

If I were with the FBI and you gave me the description above, exactly as written, I would think you were a nut.

If they wouldn't tell them their names, how do you know they're Pakistani? And, everybody knows the stayed at a SUPER 8, as if that makes any difference in the whole scheme of things.

Unwind, please!

15 posted on 08/16/2002 1:07:59 PM PDT by sinkspur
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In May my daughter and three friends were trying to stay at the Gallatin Tenn S _ _ _ _ 8 and something happened and...

If I were with the FBI and you gave me the description above, exactly as written, I would think you were a nut....

If you gave me an example such as the one you just gave above, exactly as written, there is no telling what I might think.

The example has nothing to do with the AlNeda website mysteriously appearing and the FBI being unconcerned. Last time this site appeared they threatened the mass murder of millions of Americans.

16 posted on 08/16/2002 1:56:52 PM PDT by JohnathanRGalt
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Bump
17 posted on 08/16/2002 2:07:25 PM PDT by facedown
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To: justme346
BushCountry.org


hahahahahahahahahahah

Why don't ya tell GWB about it.
18 posted on 08/16/2002 2:23:49 PM PDT by mercy
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To: justme346
The FBI has all of their agents cruising the streets with pictures of Dr. Steven Hatfill asking people if they've seen him doing anything suspicious. (In other words, the FBI is putting out word on the street that Hatfill is a criminal even though he hasn't been charged with anything.)

By the way, it's a real surprise that a government person would give you the ole 'It's not my job' routine. /sarcasm

19 posted on 08/16/2002 4:32:55 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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The FBI has two major problems -

- Lack of Arabic speaking agents (ideally non- middle easterners)
- Guaranteed jobs for life.

The President should hold back all funds until someone takes this thing apart to get rid of the dead weight.

20 posted on 08/16/2002 5:14:17 PM PDT by Aaron_A
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