OKC Bombing victim family member Kathleen Treanor said on Fox News Hannity Progam last night that she has now been told that McVeigh and Nichols were in fact trained by AL Qaeda. Treanor discussed this with former Senator Alfonse DAmato from New York who was filling in for Hannity.
John Miller, author of "The Cell", who interviewed Bin LAden in 1998 was also on Hannity last night. Miller told D'Amoto that the FBI knew of the plot to bomb the Tanzanian and Kenyan embassies nine months before but badly mishandled stopping the bombings. I noted the FBI foreknowledge and connivance over the embassy bombings in my article for this thread.
Abdul Murad told the FBI in early 1995 about four flight schools in the US to be used for ALQaeda training for terror missions. The FBI checked with these schools starting not in 1998 or 1999 but starting in 1995. Two of the flight schools have admitted talking to the FBI about these matters going back to 1995!. I have sources from CNN news and from Columbia Journalism school on this .
A man closely resembling James Rosencrans was seen with Gary Hunt in OKC for a week before the OKC bombing. They appeared to be working on construction inside the Murrah building (Tom E Hunt of Fed Protective Services told me construction was going on). The FBI confiscated surveillance cameras near where Hunt and Rosencrans were seen by the witness who was interviewed by the FBI.
Rosencrans looks a little like (similar hair but taller and thinner) the maintenance worker, Harvey Norris who was with the Gary Hunt look alike, Danny Payne (building Engineer for the Journal Record building across the street from Murrah) in front of the Murrah building at 9:18 on April, 1995 caught on KFORTV video.
Jane Graham who worked for HUD at Murrah saw Gary Hunt in the stairwell of the Murrah building at 8am on APril 1995. Hunt has been identified by motel witnesses and gas station witnesses near the Murrah building with Roesencrans before the OKC bombing. Rosencrans and Hunt both travelled from Arizona before the OKC bombing.
Hunt negotiated with Koresh and the BATF at Waco. Hunt knew McVeigh and had contacts at Elohim city, the FBI infiltrated compound in eastern OK linked to the bombing plot and German Andreas Strassmeier as well as Peter Ward (FBI informant seen with Rosencrans at Travelers AId and in McVeigh motel room at the Dreamland in KAnsas).
The FBI has been protecting Rosencrans and Hunt since 1995. Rosencrans, Fortier's neighbor, testified against McVeigh at the Fed Grand Jury in OKC in July 1995. He dumped fertilizer near his residence in Arizona shortly after the OKC bombing and he was allowed by the FBI to keep proceeds from pawning guns stolen from Roger Moore, the gun dealer in Arkansas.
Hunt sent out a memo on April 19, 1995 saying that children killed in Iraq was one of the motives for the OKC bombing. Hunt publicly advocated blowing up Federal building well after 1995 but was never touched by the FBI . Hunt was allowed by the FBI to be a provacateur to encourage McVeigh and others.
There are three witnesses who have come forward recently to claim that the Iraqi suspect Al Hussaini was escorted to OKC from Boston by a well dressed man named Khalid in November 1994. Khalid Mohammed was also in the Phillipines in 1994 and early 1995 living in an apartment with his nephew, Ramzi Yousef at the time of the meetings with Terry Nichols. Khalid has already been named by the FBI as a mastermind of the 1993 and 9/11 attacks. The FBI has known about Khalid's involvement in the OKC bombing plot since Februrary 1995 or earlier by Youseffs computer and Abdul Murads confessions.
A well dressed Khalid Mohammed (an even possibly Egyptian Zawahiri, Laden top Lieutenant) may have been escorted by Samir Khalil (Hussaini’s employer in OKC tied to Hamas) at the motel in OKC on October 30, 1995 where McVeigh previously had met with Al Hussaini and Melvin Lattimore . The motel owner said that Khalil's guest was traveling from California to Canada via OKC.
Khalid allegedly was paid three times by Samir Khalil's secretary in OKC before the OKC bombing according to what BlueDOgDemo posted on FR on Nov 3, 2001.
I have personally asked Jayna Davis attorney Davisd Schippers to confirm (or rule out) BlueDogDemo’s scalims. BlueDog has been on the payroll of Jayna Davis since at least early 2002 after receiving a very substantial donation from a Chicago benefactor who passed away last week. The benefactor also contributed a significant sum to David Schippers for some of his efforts according to a representative for the benefactor.
Wali Khan was part of the Abu Sayeff group who met with Terry Nichols in the Phillipines to plan the OKC bobming. Nichols wife, MArife Torres and her sister introduced Nichols to Wali Khan in the Phillipines who set up the meetings with Yousef. Wali Khan was very close to Bin Laden according to what Laden told john Miller ina 1998 interview.
Wali Kahn was also close to Bin Ladens brother in law Khalifa who also helped set up the Benefit and Relief Charity Organization in Chicago (HAmas training cells in CHicago). Jose Padilla, the radiation bomb plotter, was introduced to the Chicago based carity by his friend Hassoun in the early 1990s while he lived close to Mcveigh in Florida. Padilla looks similar to an OKC bobming John Doe.
I know it's a certain amount of bother to do this, but would you consider making a new posting, leading with the information in #170 and including all the information & links honway and others have contributed, to make for more concise reading? I for one have a bit of difficulty following multiple-hundred reply postings and assimilating all the diverse information contained within them.
In any event- good job!
The FBI's connivance increases the coinkadink factor.
"REcent national attention focused on the Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center ( EMRTC), a part of Tech, when it was awarded a $1.2 million contract from the Federal Aviation Administration to develop a center for counter terrorism research in explosives. According to Van Romero, director of EMRTC, proposal of the creation of this center came just after the Oklahoma City bombing. Bombings such as the one against American military personnel in Saudi Arabia and aircraft crashes like TWA Flight 800 and ValuJet Flight 592, make this research all the more crucial.
Romero says the FAA contract will enable them to build simulated sections of wide bodied aircraft and test explosives to see how aircraft respond. This research, coupled with a similar project with McDonnell Douglas Corp., is aimed at finding ways to make aircraft more explosion resistant.
The center has been involved in studies and tests of explosives for military and industry in the past, and often works with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and the Department of Transportation. Romero says they are also teaming up with the Federal Bureau of Investigation and local law and fire departments in the area of forensics training. 3 Posted on 07/20/2001 04:49:07 PDT by rubbertramp rubbertramp(I couldn't post to the thread....but will resurrect it....it is very interesting)
The following is from...www.public-action.com/911/psyopsnews
VAN THE MAN CHANGES HIS TUNE ..by Fintan Dunne
No, not Van Morrisson the singer. But, Van 'the man' Romero. The man in the right place, at the right time.
Van Romero is vice president for research at New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology (NMTech). The Socorro university has levered itself into one of the elite sites in the world for the study of explosives and terrorism, attracting nearly $10 million a year in federal money for programs that test explosives for US and foreign agencies. On the morning of the attacks, Romero and Tech's finance vice president Denny Peterson, were near the Pentagon.
They had come to Washington to discuss defense-funded research programs at Tech, leaving them very conveniently located to grab NMTech's slice of the imminent cleanup operation. Because New Mexico Tech offers counter-terrorism training of police and fire first responders to terrorism attacks in the United States!
Within hours Romero was telling the Albuquerque Journal that the collapse of the twin towers could have been caused by a small amount of explosive put in more than two points in each of the towers.
"My opinion is, based on the videotapes, that after the airplanes hit the World Trade Center there were some explosive devices inside the buildings that caused the towers to collapse," Romero said.
And Romero should know. After all Van is a demolition expert and a former director of the Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center at Tech, which studies the effects of explosions on buildings.
Nevertheless, ten days later Romero had changed his mind. Not only that, but the Albuquerque Journal changed their story too. They altered the original web page about Romero's views. It now shows his revised views first. Check it here.
GREEN CHILI STEW AT THE PENTAGON
New Mexico Tech's success is due in no small part to the advocacy of local Republican representative Joe Skeen, who has lobbied relentlessly on Tech's behalf to lucrative effect.
Skeen has contacted Israeli representatives about the prospect of having a detachment of fighter aircraft stationed in New Mexico. Israelís request is under review by the U.S. Department of Defense.
Meanwhile, Tech's terrorism first responder training is under the auspices of the public /private National Domestic Preparedness Consortium (i.e. military-industrial complex).
You can find Tech-trained first responders right now at the Pentagon scene. They are busy cleaning-up, in every sense of the word. Skeen has 'hung out with the guys' back at their training camp in the NMTech counter-terrorism facility. So naturally he soon followed Romero to Washington, where he called by the Pentagon crash scene to encourage the NMTech crew.
Skeen asked if there was anything he could do to make their task easier and the crew responded by asking if there was any green chili in the D.C. area. Skeen said yes and had New Mexico green chili stew delivered to the hotel where the crew is staying.
"These are the people who have the toughest duty in cleaning up the devastation left by the barbaric acts of terrorists last week," Skeen said. "We owe the people involved in the clean up... a great deal of thanks and gratitude." Indeed. We owe them a great deal of money also.
Tech will gain substantially from domestic counter-terrorism if Joe Skeen has his way. He wrote to President George Bush and relevant federal government agency officials thus: "Guarding against terrorist attacks must be the centerpiece of our plan and New Mexico, particularly New Mexico Tech University, has excellent technical resources in counter-terrorism."
Skeen proposed that the university triple within 60 days its domestic preparedness first responder training. Skeen said New Mexico Tech is prepared to initiate training for Sky Marshals at Roswell Airpark which has a variety of commercial jet liners ranging from 737 to 747 for hands-on training purposes.
"Dr. Dan Lopez, the President of New Mexico Tech has assured me, that all of these resources and any others identified by the government can be made available immediately to our government and I will do all in my power to help you and our country in managing this crisis,'' Skeen noted in his letter to the president.
Are you getting the picture?