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Fires burning across Oregon, (Still)
Oregon Live/ AP ^ | 8/15/02 1:45 AM | AP Staff

Posted on 08/15/2002 6:38:21 AM PDT by Grampa Dave

Fires burning across Oregon

The Associated Press 8/15/02 1:45 AM

Major wildfires are burning on about 479,000 acres in Oregon on Tuesday. About 9,400 firefighters are working in the state. The Northwest Interagency Communication Center is tracking five major fires in Oregon. Top priorities for fire officials Wednesday were the Biscuit fire, covering 390,276 acres, and the 44,880-acre Tiller Complex, and the 136-acre Hemlock fire.

BISCUIT FIRE (formerly called Florence Fire; name changed on 8/11/02)

Started: Florence fire started 26 miles west of Grant Pass, 07/13/02; Sour Biscuit started 17 miles southwest of Cave Junction.

Size: 390,276 acres.

Containment: 26 percent.

Evacuations: The entire Illinois Valley on 12-hour notice to evacuate. Agness, on northwest corner of the fire, is on 24-hour evacuation notice.

Damage: 4 residences and 8 outbuildings.

On scene: 6,383 firefighters.

Cause: Lightning.


Started: Outside Tiller, east of Canyonville off Interstate 5, 07/12/02.

Size: 44,880 acres.

Containment: 41 percent.

Evacuations: South Umpqua Road closed at milepost 6. Fifteen residences threatened. Tribal ceremonial grounds and critical cultural resources are threatened.

Damage: No listed damage.

On scene: 2,026 firefighters

Cause: Lightning.

MONUMENT-MALHEUR COMPLEX (Monument and Malheur fires merged under one management team, 8/11/02)

Started: 9 miles southwest of Unity, 07/12/02

Size: 43,894 acres

Containment: 95 percent.

Evacuations: None at this time.

Damage: None.

On Scene: 419 firefighters.

Cause: Lightning.


Started: 1/2 mile north of Westfir

Size: 136 acres

Containment: 75 percent.

Evacuations: None at this time.

Damage: None.

On Scene: 479 firefighters.

Cause: Under investigation.


Started: 17 miles east of Burns, 8/11/02

Size: 89 acres.

Containment: 85 percent.

Evacuations: None.

Damage: None.

On Scene: 127 firefighters.

Cause: Human caused, under investigation.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: biscuitfire; christines; ecoterrorism; greenjihadists; kalmiopsisburning; oregonisburning; ruralcleansing; stopecoterrorism
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The Green Jihadist/Watermelon fires are still burning in Oregon as the total acreage heads to 500,000 acres.
1 posted on 08/15/2002 6:38:21 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Granof8; AuntB; wanderin; Salvation; EBUCK; Archie Bunker on steroids; blackie
Good morning.

I hope all of your are okay. I guess it got rather smokey from Ashland to Medford and over to where Archie lives.

Please update this thread with what did happen and is happening.

Blackie what is the deal with that hemlock fire? Is it centered in some Green Jihadist Druid Cathedral and they can't fight it? Or is that area so rugged they can't fight it? Hard to believe any area that close to where you live is that rugged.
2 posted on 08/15/2002 6:43:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Elsewhere in Oregon, the East Antelope Fire doubled in size to 1,000 acres and curled around the southeast slopes of Grizzly Peak so that flames were visible from Ashland, home of the Oregon Shakespeare Festival. The fire was sparked Tuesday by power lines sagging into tree limbs.

Structural firefighting teams were stationed at homes along Dead Indian Memorial Road, but there was no immediate threat to homes, said Oregon Department of Forestry spokeswoman Keren Gillespie. There were no evacuation notices issued, and no estimated date for containing the fire.

3 posted on 08/15/2002 6:44:54 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: madfly; WaterDragon; farmfriend; backhoe
This is the latest on the huge and still burning Oregon Green Jihadist Fire, the Biscuit Fire, and a couple of relative new ones.

Thanks for your pinging and help on this nightmare for the innocent Oregonians in Southern Oregon.
4 posted on 08/15/2002 6:46:15 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: B4Ranch
Thanks! Are you getting the smoke from this fire where you live?

Archie and AuntB have had smoke problems from it for about two days.

They should drag Andy Kerr and his lesbo Druid Nuns in Ashland out to the fires and tie them to trees around the perimeter of the fire so they can chant "Fire is Good!"

Wonder if any of Andy's Hemp is on fire?
5 posted on 08/15/2002 6:49:04 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Klamath is buried in smoke.

Antelope fire has moved into low vegetation - fire fighters are optimistic. Hopefully it can move into Ashland and burn a few bath houses.

If there are any FReepers in Ashland.....wait a minute... no chance in hell any rightminded FReeper would live in that liberal craphole of a town.

6 posted on 08/15/2002 6:50:33 AM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: BOBTHENAILER; AAABEST; sauropod; CedarDave; countrydummy
Thanks for your help in spreading the word about the Green Jihadist Fires in Oregon.

Guess what they are still burning with a new one in the Ashland area.
7 posted on 08/15/2002 6:51:39 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
I don't even like to stop for gasoline in Ashland any more.

Afraid my Bronco might get AIDS from the bath house guys working as a gas pusher at the filling stations.

We have a friend who is a moderate Liberal, and she has a summer cottage in Ashland. She can't understand why we don't take her up re her free offer to use the cottage.

8 posted on 08/15/2002 6:55:56 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
My daughter said there was some smoke up at the Lake a couple of days ago.

I wish these reporters would ask the firefighters how many dead bears they have found so far. That would get attention.

9 posted on 08/15/2002 7:01:29 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Grampa Dave
Afraid my Bronco might get AIDS from the bath house guys working as a gas pusher at the filling stations.

For those not familiar with Oregon law, you can't even think about pumping your own gas in Oregon. The law creates jobs.

10 posted on 08/15/2002 7:14:10 AM PDT by thinktwice
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To: Cuttnhorse
Just for you!

Was the winter in Chili, cold this year?
11 posted on 08/15/2002 7:25:31 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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Looks like the lookout didn't survive. Sad.

Leapfrogging Biscuit fire devours historic lookout



Flames snaking over a ridge in gusty overnight winds claimed a historic fire lookout, lately used as a popular vacation rental, after fire crews failed in a last-ditch effort to save the lookout by wrapping it in protective sheathing.

The Snow Camp Lookout on Snow Camp Mountain fell victim to the 378,865-acre Biscuit fire, still only 26 percent contained after burning for one month. The fire was caused by a July 13 lightning strike.

Soaring temperatures, dense smoke and bone-dry humidity increased the challenge Tuesday for the nearly 6,400 firefighters struggling to keep the blaze from breaching fire lines.

Temperatures at some fire camps hit 100 degrees. Firefighters on the west side of the Biscuit fire said temperatures were in the high 80s on the fire lines.

Fire spokeswoman Susan Mathison said the fire had crossed fire lines in two key areas on the west side of the fire -- on Snow Camp Mountain and near the Wilderness Retreat along the Chetco River.

"It's playing leapfrog with itself," said Ray Hershey, division supervisor.

Fire crews from Maine, Canada, Montana, New Zealand and other places waited impatiently Tuesday along a U.S. Forest Service road 12 miles northeast of Pistol River. The firefighters had been ordered away from the front for their own safety until their supervisors came up with another strategy.

Canadian firefighter J.D. Bishop and his crew have been repeatedly sent in and pulled out as the unpredictable fire continued setting spot fires.

Heavy smoke kept helicopters grounded Tuesday, forcing crews on the ground to scout the fire on foot. That slowed fire managers, who had to wait for reports before deploying firefighters to build new lines or fight spot fires.

Mathison said residents of Wilderness Retreat, a community of 20 homes 13 miles east of Brookings, had already left voluntarily. The fire was last reported within four miles of the homes, but its precise location was difficult to determine because of dense smoke.

Mathison said officials decided against sending a night shift into the area for safety reasons.

The fire which breached the fire line on Snow Camp Mountain had consumed 125 acres Tuesday and was still growing. "It's very smoky," Mathison said. "It's hard to get a handle on where it's spotting."

The Snow Camp Lookout, located 36 miles northeast of Brookings, was the latest in a small number of homes and other structures lost to the Biscuit fire, now entering its fifth week. Before departing ahead of advancing flames, firefighters had tried to save the 15-by-15 foot structure by wrapping it in protective sheathing.

The lookout was constructed in 1958 on the site of an earlier lookout of the same name, used by spotters to watch for enemy aircraft during World War II. The site is about 15 miles north of Mount Emily, where a Japanese aircraft dropped an incendiary device on Sept. 9, 1942, in a failed attempt to ignite a devastating forest fire.

The Snow Camp Lookout, at 4,223 feet above sea level, was last used as a fire lookout in 1972. Since 1990, the Forest Service has made it available for recreational rentals. It's listed in the National Historic Lookout Register as one of the last lookouts in the Siskiyou National Forest.

In a 1996 book, David Calahan said that the lookout offered renters breathtaking views. He said furnishings included a double bed, foam mattress, table, chairs, wood stove and woodbox, along with a firefinder and wind gauge "so that you know how powerful those winds are that seem determined to blow you off the mountain."

He also said the outhouse was worthy of praise. "You can leave the door open and have a most fantastic view with little concern that anyone will look back at you."

Mathison said the lookout could accommodate one family at a time and that the waiting list was always long. "It will be missed by many, many people," she said.

Smoke also posed difficulties for the nearly 1,900 firefighters on the 44,103-acre Tiller Complex fires in Douglas County, where three firefighters were injured Tuesday.

Fire spokesman Jon Silvius said an unidentified soldier with the Oregon National Guard fell about 50 feet and was taken to Rogue Valley Medical Center as a precaution. Another firefighter suffered heat exhaustion and was treated at the fire line. And another firefighter had an allergic reaction to a bee sting.

A weather inversion kept both the smoke and the fires low to the ground.

"It's good for fire behavior," said fire spokesman Jon Silvius. "But it's horrible that firefighters have to breathe this stuff." He said visibility was only a quarter-mile at fire headquarters, and less closer to the fires, still only 40 percent contained. By the end of the day, the inversion lifted and visibility increased to a mile, Silvius said.

Other smaller fires broke out in and around Oregon.

A new fire, the East Antelope fire, started about 14 miles east of Medford on Tuesday. It had reached nearly 300 acres by the end of the day, said Jeff Schwanke, district forester for the Oregon Department of Forestry. Officials were using 160 firefighters, three air tankers and four helicopters to battle the blaze. Crews were optimistic about getting it controlled by today. The fire was apparently started when a power line sagged in the heat and hit trees.

A fire burned 40 acres of brush and timber near Longview, Wash., endangering several homes, which were saved. The Cowlitz County sheriff's office said a 16-year-old boy admitted accidentally starting the fire and was charged Monday with first-degree reckless burning. Two other teens were charged with making false statements to a public servant.

A one-acre fire was quickly contained in Tillamook County, about three miles north of Manzanita on the coast, said David Wells of the Oregon Department of Forestry. The fire forced a temporary closure of U.S. 101.

Copyright 2002 Oregon Live. All Rights Reserved.

12 posted on 08/15/2002 8:48:12 AM PDT by madfly
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Yes, that is sad.

I had wanted to spend a night or two in the lookout as a vacation rental. Now that is no longer possible.

There were a lot of injuries yesterday for fire fighters in S. Oregon.
13 posted on 08/15/2002 8:59:16 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Good Morning G'Pa! Hope you find yourself feeling fine this morning.


14 posted on 08/15/2002 9:04:35 AM PDT by EBUCK
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Here is the latest fire map that shows as red spots, what is still burning. A lot more red spots on the North End, NW and the SE end in Kali..

15 posted on 08/15/2002 9:04:40 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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Here is the NOAA image from the evening of 13 August. This confirms the new fires on the map above, that I just posted. The person who drew in the Kali border is the one who flunked geography. The border actually up higher and runs just north of the new burns on the SE end of the Former Kalmiopsis Fire.

16 posted on 08/15/2002 9:11:23 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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Here is an even more graphic view of the fires on the evening of 13 August from the NOAH satellite.

Use your arrow at the right hand bottom of the screen to scroll right to see the other fires blazing in Ore Gone up in fire and smoke. The Tiller Complex in the Upper Umpquah Valley is pretty awesome:

17 posted on 08/15/2002 9:19:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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Structural units head to Biscuit, East Antelope puts on show

The Associated Press
8/15/02 12:16 PM

GRANTS PASS, Ore. (AP) -- Structural firefighters mobilized by the governor headed for the south Oregon coast Thursday to protect homes from the massive Biscuit Fire while another blaze outside Ashland put on a show for fans of the Oregon Shakespeare Festival.

For a record 10th time this year, Gov. John Kitzhaber invoked the Emergency Conflagration Act on Tuesday, saying he would rather be safe than sorry in case firefighters couldn't hold the west flank of the biggest fire in recorded Oregon history.

"We're willing to accept the criticism that we took precautions that weren't necessary rather than having to deal with the consequences of doing nothing at all," governor's spokesman Tom Towslee said from Salem. "There is a concern that the fire is moving west."

The Biscuit Fire stood at 396,845 acres Wednesday, and just 28 percent contained. Personnel grew to 6,848 people, a one-day jump of 438, with crews from around the country as well as Australia, Canada and New Zealand. Total costs were $62.6 million.

The strongest containment lines were on the southern and eastern flanks of the fire, which has been burning on the Siskiyou National Forest and adjoining lands in southwestern Oregon and northern California since a lighting strike ignited it July 13 deep in the Kalmiopsis Wilderness.

Firefighters were working on a 50,000-acre burnout operation on the northeastern flank to keep the fire from driving into the Rogue River Canyon.

North of Ashland, the East Antelope Fire grew to 1,550 acres as it curled around the southeast slopes of Grizzly Peak so that flames were visible across Interstate 5 from Ashland, home of the Oregon Shakespeare Festival. The fire was sparked Tuesday by power lines sagging into tree limbs.

Some playgoers found it hard to tear themselves away from watching the fire to attend the plays at the Oregon Shakespeare Festival.

"We just saw a huge flame burst out of nowhere," said Eric Earle, 10, of Portland, as his family headed to a performance.

An Oregon Department of Forestry incident management team took over managing the fire, as resources began pouring in to fire camp established at Touvelle State Park in White City.

There were no evacuation warnings issued, but structural fire teams began assessing a dozen homes along Dead Indian Memorial Road, said spokesman Doug Decker.

An air inversion kept a lid on the fire in the morning, but the flames were expected to kick up, heading south, in the afternoon, Decker said.

"This will be an important day," Decker said. "We have some good containment landmarks in terms of roads there to work with. I hope we can hold them."

Meanwhile, five contract firefighters were injured Tuesday when the driver of their pickup apparently fell asleep and ran off U.S. Highway 199 near O'Brien while driving to Brookings to join the battle against the west flank of the Biscuit Fire, state police said.

The injured firefighters were part of a three-truck convoy, state police Senior Trooper Randall Hoxsie said. They had left Salem about 4 a.m. and stopped for breakfast in Grants Pass before the 8 a.m. wreck.

It was the second time this summer members of a firefighting crew from Ferguson Management Co. of Albany were injured. Eleven firefighters suffered burns and smoke inhalation July 24 when they deployed their fire shelters on the Tool Box fire near Silver Lake.

On the Tiller complex of fires east of Roseburg, a 25-year-old soldier from Fort Riley, Kans., was hurt Tuesday when he took a 50-foot, headfirst tumble off a mountainside while fighting the fire.

Sgt. Scott Urban, with Battery A, 1st Battalion, 5th Field Artillery, was treated for bumps, bruises and muscle strain, but was not seriously injured, officials said. His unit was due to go back home at the end of the week.

The Tiller Complex was 41 percent contained after burning 48,000 acres.

18 posted on 08/15/2002 9:39:28 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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I'm doing great. A little ornery from not fishing.

Gray Davis has the water flowing at record levels out of the dams to provide electricity. Rivers are high in Kali in August for the irrigation water. However, Black Out Davis has been running the water down stream at 3 to 4 times normal flows in many rivers.

This just makes it impossible to fish and well as dangerous.

Of course that is minor problem compared to what the good people in Oregon are putting up with re these Water Melon Ba$tard Fires.
19 posted on 08/15/2002 9:43:25 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
I hope you guys get enough rain to cover his "flowing" policy. How much of your electricity is hydro based?


20 posted on 08/15/2002 9:55:29 AM PDT by EBUCK
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