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Oregon Firefighters get no help from the weather
Oregon Live/ AP ^ | 13 August 2002 | Jeff Barnard

Posted on 08/13/2002 7:48:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave

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It will be hot all over Oregon today. The east winds blowing down over the burning former Kalmiopsis Wilderness area could endanger the cities, towns and people living west of the fire.

Also, inspite of the North winds the past week, the fire appears to be inching its way north to Agness and Wilderness Retreat.

Pray for those who live in this area are in severe harm's way thanks to the agendas of the al Qaeda Tree Huggers of Oregon. The fire fighters of course are at peril any day they are on the line.

1 posted on 08/13/2002 7:48:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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376,000 acres equals 587.5 square miles of some of the most beautiful forests in the world! Thanks go to the Sierra Club of Oregon and Gov Taxhiker for making sure they burn rather than harvested.

Pray for GW and our Firefighters

2 posted on 08/13/2002 7:54:11 AM PDT by bray
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To: Granof8; Archie Bunker on steroids; wanderin; EBUCK; Salvation; blackie; dixiechick2000; ...
Good Morning.

Here is the latest.

It will be hot over most of Oregon today. Stay safe where ever you are.

Again we appreciate all the local reports. Our local star reporter Granof8 has done an incredible job of being our local eyes and ears with this fire.

People in Portland are not really aware of this fire, and they don't realize that the Kalmiopsis Wilderness has burnt up, still is burning and will burn until the winter rains come. They still think that this fire is near Florence.

So it is up to us to spread the word about the reality of this fire.
3 posted on 08/13/2002 8:01:29 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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Thanks, by the time you made the post, and I responded to you, the total burn area is at least 600 square miles.

Like you said thanks to Club Sierra and Governor Taxhiker plus Andy Kerr, the ONRC and the communist Watermelons posing as enviralists this beautiful area has burnt, is burning and will burn until winter.

This was not only a beautiful forest, it was one of the most beautiful wilderness areas in the world. Now it is gone thanks to the Green Jihadists's agendas. May God damn them! Before then we need to damn them and blame them 24/7 for the destruction of God's gift to the rest of us!
4 posted on 08/13/2002 8:06:28 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: madfly; WaterDragon; farmfriend; backhoe; Ernest_at_the_Beach
This is the morning update on this ongoing Green Jihadist Act of Terrorism against the people living around this natural fire that they love.

Please ping it to your list, so that they will know the reality of what happens when the unelected Green Jihadists forced their deadly agendas on America/Americans.

Thanks, again for your great help in spreading the word of this ongoing act of Green Terrorism.
5 posted on 08/13/2002 8:09:56 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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The sad saga of the ungoing Green Jihadists's terrorism against the innocents in Oregon and California who live around this former wilderness area continues.

Very hot temps and winds are expected today and tomorrow. The next two days will be very critical re containment of the Green Jihadists's act of terror against America, Oregon, California and the people living there in harm's way.
6 posted on 08/13/2002 8:13:03 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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Thanks for the ping and the latest, Gramps!

This is just a quick bump. Dang, the kids are up early this morning!
See ya' later!

BTTT

7 posted on 08/13/2002 8:15:28 AM PDT by dixiechick2000
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Record temps all over the State today. Rogue valley will approach 110, Portland expects 99 - WOW! The Basin will hit 95. Miserable conditions for anyone with fire gear on. Lets hope no one else gets hurt.
8 posted on 08/13/2002 8:15:40 AM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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Weather forecast for Grants Pass, Oregon. It will be hot today and tomorrow with temps over 100. (Accuweather forecast for Medford, Oregon)
9 posted on 08/13/2002 8:20:58 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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Terrible temps for all living in Oregon.

The Nomex fire suits are terrible to be in. However, they have to be in them in case there is a flash back, falling burning embers and worse situations.

You take care of yourself and your family.
10 posted on 08/13/2002 8:23:16 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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Here is this morning's fire map. There is a lot of new red for fires on the west side and on the north side of the former Kalmiopsis Wilderness area. Also, it appears that there has been slop over in the Kali area along route 199:


11 posted on 08/13/2002 8:29:15 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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This is just rotten, it really is.
12 posted on 08/13/2002 8:29:18 AM PDT by AAABEST
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Heading up to Crater Lake today. Hopefully smoke from the Tiller fire isn't settling in the crater. You cannot see Mt Scott or the Crater from 5 miles right now.

Thanks for all the updates - will check in later,

13 posted on 08/13/2002 8:29:54 AM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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First, the good news:

Southern line may hold on Smith River;

No "significant" runs overnight;

May not need to do backburns in the Winchuck area.

Now for the rest of the story:

379,000 acres;

Snow Camp Lookout burned last night;

2-1/2 to 3 miles from Wilderness Retreat;

Fire around Tolman Ranch.

14 posted on 08/13/2002 8:32:51 AM PDT by Granof8
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Pray for those who live in this area are in severe harm's way thanks to the agendas of the al Qaeda Tree Huggers of Oregon. The fire fighters of course are at peril any day they are on the line.

I'll say a prayer for all of them.

15 posted on 08/13/2002 8:34:36 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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Here is the newest florist circus map of the Kalmiopsis Wildnerness Fire.

They have new color codes which I can't decipher with my computer to apparently show the various time lines of the fire.

If anyone can decipher the progression codes, please post them for us.


16 posted on 08/13/2002 8:37:45 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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Thanks for the good news and the other news.

Wasn't the lookout station at Snow Camp being manned or womanned?

If it was lost, this is a real blow on keeping track of what was going on and new burn areas.
17 posted on 08/13/2002 8:40:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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It's just so damn illogical and senseless. Gosh, if we could only have roads for access and fire breaks and the ability to clean and manage the forrests. It would be the best thing in the world for the creatures, plants and the people.

Now lives and property are being destroyed because the "fragile wilderness" the silly ideologues were trying to protect is being ruined and it's their own freakin fault.

It's as absurd as it is infuriating to watch.

18 posted on 08/13/2002 8:43:01 AM PDT by AAABEST
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Stickers are in. I'll be shippin them at lunch today.

My brother is working near tent-city in Shady Cove. I'm going to send 15 of them with him to sell to the firefighters staying there. That will leave 5 to be distributed to politicians etc. Let's get a list of the top five people/organisations that deserve a "donation".

EBUCK

19 posted on 08/13/2002 8:48:34 AM PDT by EBUCK
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Thanks Bob.

This fire is about to enter a real serious phase. It has been serious since the first lightening strikes, and the Green Jihadist Weenies cheered and welcomed the good fires. However, all of their containment work on the east, north and south sides will be tested. I don't believe that much containment has been done on the West side.

This Green Terrorist Disaster could go ballistic in the next 48 hours with the potential of record breaking high temps, winds and the winds that a massive fire creates on its own.

Every Oregonian enviralist should be rounded up at gun point, then driven to fight this fire. Start with their Green Weenie Governor Tax hiker, Andy Kerr and every card carrying enviral in Oregon. Give them a nomex suit, a helmet, a canteen of water and a hoe dag to fight the fire.

If they try to run away at the fire's perimeter, shoot them! Let them experience the terror that they have brought about with their anti human agendas! Then if they survive they will know that fire is not good! Fire kills, maims and destroys.
20 posted on 08/13/2002 8:49:24 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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