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Yes, beware of us li'l ol' neos.
1 posted on 08/13/2002 6:51:09 AM PDT by rdb3
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2 posted on 08/13/2002 6:55:27 AM PDT by dennisw
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Yes, beware of us li'l ol' neos.

Funny, you don't *look* Jewish........;-)

3 posted on 08/13/2002 7:03:28 AM PDT by dighton
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I consider myself a neo-conservative. I was a former liberal, yes, but last December 25, I was in church, celebrating Christmas.

Although once, I DID wear a beanie cap with a propeller on top, does that make me Jewish? (or just a geek...)

5 posted on 08/13/2002 7:12:19 AM PDT by Paradox
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Y'know, if Matthews is correct about who the neo-cons want to fight, then where do I sign up to become one?

Bring `em on, I'd prefer a straight fight to all this sneakin' around.
7 posted on 08/13/2002 7:24:34 AM PDT by hchutch
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"Also chiming in, early and often, about the neoconservative threat was Lenora Fulani’s former presidential running mate Patrick Buchanan. "

Obviously this is just more Goebbel's big lie plus guilt by association smears by those that oppose Pat's America only (non-neocon) viewpoint. Pat's running mate was Mrs. Foster, a strong conservative. Look at the article with a suspicious eye.

12 posted on 08/13/2002 7:49:35 AM PDT by ex-snook
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LOL!! Yes, what IS a neocon? Don't worry I know your definition from the other thread and I fully agree with it. Words do mean something and the definition is correct. However I would say that it seems that some liberals do use the word incorrectly in labeling the 'fringe' of the party
17 posted on 08/13/2002 8:08:56 AM PDT by billbears
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The neocon-obsessed Marshall refers to Perle as the "the portly, Ronald Reagan-era assistant secretary of defense who kept the defense-hawk home fires burning throughout the Bill Clinton years from a perch at the American Enterprise Institute." Clinton might have taken some of his advice, perhaps none of this bellicosity would be necessary. Nevertheless, the slim Marshall points out, in case you missed it or cared, that Perle is "Jewish, passionately pro-Israel and pro-Likud." The importance of those traits can be easily deduced.

The Washington Post's Dana Milbank, author of the Bush-bashing book Smashmouth, called Perle the "intellectual guru of the hard-line neoconservative movement in foreign policy." (America fruitlessly awaits Milbank’s piece on the "hard-line progressive movement.")

The attack on Pearle is most interesting. Richard Pearle was one of the architects of Reagan's successful strategy to pursue victory in the Cold War, rather than settle for "co-existence" (as Chris Matthews' hero Jimmy Carter wanted to do). So naturally, he is now an arch-fiend.

One time for sure when you should "beware" -- when leftist media and paleocons attack you simultaneously. To me, that means you really are doing the right thing.

27 posted on 08/13/2002 8:42:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus
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NeoCons are not to be confused with mainstream conservatism. They may have co-opted conservatism but that's another story.

NeoConservatism was a reaction to, and a rejection of the Jewish romance with Leftist Socialism.

A handful of American intellectuals woke up one day and realized that the Leftists in this world hate Jews and were actually evil. "Hey, that's not good for me or Israel," they exclaimed, "Let's reinvent conservatism and write books and become pundits!"

Obviously I used the term "intellectuals" loosely.
30 posted on 08/13/2002 9:40:13 AM PDT by navigator
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Bump for later read.
37 posted on 08/13/2002 9:12:22 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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I am a proud neo-conservative. First of all I grew up and was raised in the birthplace of neo-conservatism: New York City. I am a huge fan of the Kristols and the Podhoretzes. Neoconservatism is the best of our movement. It is the one that is most open minded and receptive to beneficial change. It is the part of our movement that puts the individual and his/her rights above all else. Libertarianism is much more in agreement with the neocons than the paleocons. Speaking of paleocons, how are they devoted to Chicago school economics when they are overwhelmingly against free trade and skilled immigration not to mention foreign influences and technology? Which brings me to my beef with paleoconservatism. Most paleos ( not all) are incredibly narrow minded and ultra-nationalistic. Like it or not we are not going to return the U.S. to 19th Century values. And charges of bigotry against many paleos are legitimate. Joe Sobran for example recently spoke in front of an orgaization that denies the Holocaust. Sam Francis has repeatedly expressed his low opinion of ethnic minorities and Chilton Williamson still thinks that Eastern European immigrants should not have been allowed to come in the early 1900s. I am sorry but people who idolize the likes of De Maistre and Gobineau are not going to recieve any kind words from me. Yes neoconservatives were liberals back when being a liberal meant support for equal opportunity, freedom and anti-communism. Yes we even supported and still support some aspects of the Great Society. Well some of the social programs made problems worse and Civil Rights was turned into affirmative action so now we are fighting against the liberals not mugged by reality. Ronald Reagan was the original neo-conservative politican, a former liberal who became a conservative when he did not change but liberalism did. Finally neoconservatism is triumphant. Soon we will be able to drop our prefix and call ourselves conservatives just like Norman Podhoretz stated we should.
83 posted on 08/17/2002 11:13:58 PM PDT by Classicaliberalconservative
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