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New Jersey Mailbox Tests Positive for Anthrax
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | Mon Aug 12, 9:27 PM ET | Unknown

Posted on 08/12/2002 7:55:13 PM PDT by B-bone

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. postal inspectors investigating the anthrax mailings linked to five deaths have discovered a mailbox that tested positive for traces of the bacteria, a postal official said on Monday.

The mailbox was found on Thursday night in Princeton, New Jersey, and has been sent to a U.S. Army facility in Aberdeen, Maryland, for forensic analysis, U.S. Postal Service spokesman Dan Mihalko told Reuters.

He said the mailbox was discovered as investigators checked hundreds of boxes from which mail is funneled to a postal sorting center in Trenton, New Jersey, where four anthrax-laced letters were postmarked last year.

"We've been looking at all the mailboxes that feed into the Trenton facility," Mihalko said. "One of them did test positive."

The mailbox was sent to the army laboratory for more conclusive tests, he said, adding, "We've seen in the past, field tests that turn up false positives."

Five people died and 13 were sickened last year as anthrax-tainted letters were sent to government officials and media outlets in Washington, Florida and New York. The letters were mailed in the weeks following the Sept. 11 attacks.

The FBI launched an investigation in October to find the person responsible for the anthrax attacks. Authorities are offering a $2.5 million reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction in the case.


TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anthrax; anthraxscarelist; pervez; princeton
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To: Fabozz
We don't know how the anthrax was delivered to the Globe office in Florida but it was well ahead of the other mailings.
41 posted on 08/13/2002 12:07:23 AM PDT by weegee
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To: The Great Satan
"AMI workers and Bob Steven's physicians concur that his exposure was probably from a suspicious package containing an obscene letter and a tobacco tin holding a Star of David buried in powder."

There had to have been a non-trivial amount of powder outside the tin, too—the CDC followed a trail of contaminated post offices from AMI back to the West Palm Beach main branch. But what they didn't find was any contamination in the chain between West Palm Beach and New Jersey, so you're right, that the AMI letter passed through Trenton is pure speculation on their part.

42 posted on 08/13/2002 12:14:49 AM PDT by Fabozz
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To: Fabozz
But what they didn't find was any contamination in the chain between West Palm Beach and New Jersey, so you're right, that the AMI letter passed through Trenton is pure speculation on their part.

A very interesting point in support of my argument, which I had not thought of or read about. Thanks.

Again, the timing of that "JLo" letter is very interesting. If everything had gone as planned, things would have been far worse than they were, as if that can be imagined. My guess is we were supposed to wake up on 9-11 to witness first the destruction of the WTC, then to see the White House and the Capitol reduced to smoldering rubble shortly aftwerwards and then, while we were still reeling from that, we would have got the news that people were dropping like flies from inhalation anthrax at a company called American Media, right by the main hijacker nest, and that the source of the illness was a tin containing a Star of David buried in a pile of dust.

And, once the dust had settled and the "unimportant people" at the tabloid had been made an example of, the more explicit threats would have rolled in:

THIS IS NEXT
WE HAVE THIS ANTHRAX
YOU CAN NOT STOP US
ARE YOU AFRAID?


43 posted on 08/13/2002 12:27:32 AM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: Fabozz
There had to have been a non-trivial amount of powder outside the tin, too

The powder in that tin was mainly and perhaps entirely soap powder. If the anthrax came in that letter, it might have been mixed in with the soap powder, or it may have been elsewhere in the package.

44 posted on 08/13/2002 12:30:55 AM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: Catspaw
But was the flag up?
45 posted on 08/13/2002 3:28:46 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: First_Salute
This the kind of detail work that was once done very well by many people who learned how to graph sentence syntax, how to write beautifully readable cursive script, how to keep double entry accounting books by hand, knew the names of all the Presidents and the major battles of evry war back to Hastings, didn't have a magical withholding tax deducted each week from their pay, which was neatly piled in small manilla envelopes in hard-metal backed certificates and coin, and didn't expect the government to pay for their every damn expense and their children's every whimsy forevermore.
46 posted on 08/13/2002 4:24:17 AM PDT by bvw
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To: aristeides
On the great Atta's route north to Boston from Florida.
47 posted on 08/13/2002 4:26:37 AM PDT by bvw
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To: aristeides
Why, if he did that, would he put on the envelope as a return address Franklin Park together with the Zip Code for the adjoining Monmouth Junction (which just happens to be where the main mosque in the area is)?

There's a Franklin Avenue in Princeton. It runs parallel to Nassau Street.

48 posted on 08/13/2002 4:56:18 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw; Fred Mertz; kattracks; aristeides
NEWARK, NJ: August 12, 2002 — Anthrax spores were found inside a Princeton mailbox tested after workers at a regional mail sorting facility contracted the bacteria in October, Gov. James E. McGreevey said.

The mailbox was removed last week and there is no danger to the public, McGreevey said Monday. He spoke at a press conference with the state attorney general, David Samson, and Louie Allen, special agent in charge of the FBI's Newark office.

splain me this: if the contaminated mailbox was tested positive for anthrax resulting in postal workers contracting the bacteria in Oct '01...and was "removed last week"...why hasn't other the other mail posted through it over the past 9 months resulted in additional cases of anthrax?

49 posted on 08/13/2002 5:29:39 AM PDT by thinden
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To: All
Think if we go back, this is an old story and someone is trying to put it forth as new information.

I believe there was another mailbox in DC that also tested positive.

Don't forget, the old swab tests are considered garbage.

If I were going to put Anthrax in the mail and wanted to make sure it got there, I'd put in a the box near the post office just before pick up time and watch it get "into the system".

In investigating, I'd look for a pattern..e.g. Tuesday seems to be a favorite day...Who has off on Tuesday??? and can run around doing errands???

Everything was happening on Tuesdays...

Sac

50 posted on 08/13/2002 5:33:00 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: thinden
The regional mail facility tested positive for anthrax in October, 2001.

This specific mailbox tested positive for anthrax on 8/8/2002.

51 posted on 08/13/2002 5:34:18 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: B-bone
Be interesting to know if Hatfill had any interviews at Princeton while he was seeking employment.
52 posted on 08/13/2002 6:08:19 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: Don Joe; OldFriend
Thanks, the poster is OldFriend, whom I'm flagging.
53 posted on 08/13/2002 6:45:47 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: Fabozz
That's interesting. I hadn't noticed that. Do you know where on the New Jersey Turnpike Jarrah got the ticket?
54 posted on 08/13/2002 6:47:15 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides
"Do you know where on the New Jersey Turnpike Jarrah got the ticket?"

Scratch that connection, the story I read was incomplete. Now that I found the full account, it doesn't offer any clues. The traffic stop was on northbound I-95 (which is the NJT for part of its length), but was in fact all the way down in Pikesville, MD, a northwest suburb of Baltimore some 150 miles south of Princeton. That circle is just too big to draw any kind of conclusions from—for all we know Jarrah was coming back from meeting Hatfill.

It still makes you wonder, though, just what Jarrah was doing all the way down there.

55 posted on 08/13/2002 7:07:01 AM PDT by Fabozz
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To: thinden
splain me this: if the contaminated mailbox was tested positive for anthrax resulting in postal workers contracting the bacteria in Oct '01...and was "removed last week"...why hasn't other the other mail posted through it over the past 9 months resulted in additional cases of anthrax?

Sorry that I misread your question the first time.

I'm relying on memory here, but the first cases of anthrax in that area came from the Hamilton Township mail sorting facility. If I'm not mistaken, the Princeton post office also tested positive for anthrax, and the Princeton post office sends its mail to Hamilton to be sorted. And now a mail box in Princeton tested positive (although it may be a false positive, even though I doubt that they did just one test on the box before hauling it away).

Again, relying on my memory, the envelopes were heavily taped, and the anthrax spores didn't start spewing until they had gone through a mail sorting machine, one with rollers, that in essence squeezed the anthrax out of the envelopes. That, of course, didn't happen at the mailbox or at the post office. It happened at the mail sorting facility. The only thing I can think of is not enough anthrax had gotten out of the envelope at the mailbox to cause a healthy person to have gotten anthrax--and I don't think there would have been enough anthrax coming out of the mail slot to make for major contamination of a person mailing a letter. To the best of my knowledge, no one at the Princeton post office contracted anthrax either. It was only persons at the Hamilton mail facility (as far as this path of the anthrax letters goes) who were the first in this chain to contract anthrax. This doesn't include, of course, the persons who were at the other end of the mail delivery system or the persons who died because their mail probably came in contact with the contaminated letters.

56 posted on 08/13/2002 7:16:09 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: OldFriend
Make that "in Princeton." There are any number of private businesses and consulting firms in that area. Heck, he may have been looking for a job at Johnson & Johnson, for all we know.
57 posted on 08/13/2002 7:17:24 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
There was also the female accountant in Hamilton who got cutaneous anthrax. Her office is in the building next door to the office of the Middle Eastern doctor who is chairman of the board of the mosque in Monmouth Junction (which happens to be in the Zip Code chosen for the return address of the anthrax letters).
58 posted on 08/13/2002 7:19:12 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: First_Salute
This the kind of detail work that was once done very well by the F.B.I.

Not when it's Postal related, that's the job of the US Postal Inspection Service.

59 posted on 08/13/2002 7:24:05 AM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: aristeides
Ah, that's right--there was someone out of the postal facility that contracted anthrax in Hamilton (so much for my laser-like memory). But as far as I recall, there were no cases of anthrax in Princeton.
60 posted on 08/13/2002 7:42:27 AM PDT by Catspaw
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