Fires Spread Plant Damage, Disease, Ore-gone Eco Terrorists's View of Fire Fighting

Boris, thanks!

Your simple reply is the message that needs to be pounded 24/7 about the green jihadists pretending to enviro minded:

Your Great, Powerful and Simple message:

They are not pro-nature, they are anti-human.

Keep us posted when some real news in either Brookings or Gold Beach comes out.

What is amazing is that this fire and other fires don't go asleep or away for the weekend.

Yet the newspapers, tv stations and other new sources seem to bury the coverage from what happened after Thursday pm until Monday at noon.

The Floristry Circus Clowns in charge of information seem to avoid any new news from after Friday morning until Monday about noon. Of course this is where most of the mediots get their news. So if there is no news from the Floristry Circus Clowns for a 72 hour period, then there is no news.

There are very few reporters who can investigate what is happening and actually write a current update on that happening. This reality is not just on poor fire coverage but other real news as it breaks. If the breaking news does not fit a cookie cutter mold for PC/Diversity news, they don't know how to handle it. So they just ignore it.

I believe that when more conservatives cancel their subscriptions to these worthless fishwraps and send at least half of their monthly savings to Free Republic, we will see a melt down of the current media outputs. They are like cavemen and women trying to exist and keep up in today's modern world. Their agendas, lack of creativity and flexability will doom most news/media organizations.

A top concern for crews on the 333,891-acre Florence Fire is spreading Port Orford cedar root rot, a fungus-like pathogen spread through soil and water.

Save the Fungus-like Pathogens !

The last FS updates at the Florence fire website were Aug. 8 for the west side and Aug. 9 for the east side. Couldn't get anything from the Six Rivers site earlier this morning.

KURY radio has some young folks working today. More music than news. If there was a FS/Sheriff update this morning I didn't hear it.

I have the feeling that most of this spread of future diseases comes from more bad science from the enviral nazis.

They don't want large scale fire battling to be done.

I would not put it past them to plant vile plant seeds after a fire in a dozer's tracts to claim that the dozer brought them to the area.

These scumbags will lie and do anything to destroy America and rurally cleanse America in the name of enviralism.

Your reply is proof of what I posted about how we don't get the news on the real news like this fire:

You posted, "The last FS updates at the Florence fire website were Aug. 8 for the west side and Aug. 9 for the east side. Couldn't get anything from the Six Rivers site earlier this morning."

The August 8 FS update was based on data collected on 7 August. That was Wednesday. The 9 data came from Friday's data maybe. So nothing will come from the Floristry Circus PR Clowns until about noon on Monday. So there is a black hole of 3-4 days re what is happening.

KURY radio has some young folks working today. More music than news. If there was a FS/Sheriff update this morning I didn't hear it.

When we had the winecountry earthquake two years ago on Labor Day, our local radio stations played pre canned music. The only source of info was KGO, the left wing talk show out of Gay Frisco. The host made up his mind that nothing that had happened in the Wine country and the quake was minor. He refused to listen to live reports from people in Napa as those reports told the reality of a serious earthquake. He would talk to people 30 to 100 miles away who barely felt it to prove his point.

I sent a scathing fax and email to him and the night manager of the station telling him to shut up and listen to Napa people. We had a serious earthquake. He acknowledged getting a hate email from a crank in the wine country. Then he got a couple of callers who blasted him and told him to shut up and to let people from the wine country talk, we had a serious earthquake. He modified his position somewhat. The only news we got was from the few wine country people calling in and telling of the damage we had received. I knew that it was serious. A lot of Freepers who know all about earthquakes played it down until the reality of the quake became evident 24 hours later.

A personal friend who was the previous owner of the 2 radio stations tried to call up the new owners and volunteer his services and a few other retired radio reporters to update the listeners what happened. They never got back to him. For 72 hours, the only news that we got was the national hourly update that was old and out of date.

This is really scary in a area where earthquakes, floods and big fires can happen.

WHAT'S NEXT,putting trees and plants in daycare centers?Man,these people are struggling to find a reason to live.

Easy there Glock, I resemble that remark. Just a mushroom sitting in the dark, covered in FS BS.

Six Rivers - includes only California portion of Biscuit Fire

August 11, 2002
Release #15 Biscuit Fire Zone 2
Fire Renamed Again
The Florence Fire has been renamed the Biscuit Fire. The name change was to clear up some confusion about fire location. Because the fire was named Florence, many people were thinking it was located near Florence, Oregon, which is not the case.
Evacuation Order Lifted
The Evacuation Order issued by the Del Norte County Sheriff’s Department for Gasquet has been lifted. Further coordination of all evacuation procedures will take place with the Del Norte County Sheriff’s Department at 707-464-9551 or 707-464-4191, ext. 227.
Zone 2 Location
Zone 2 is located in Northwestern California from the Oregon/California border south to Highway 199. There are two fires in Biscuit Fire Zone 2: the Sour Biscuit Fire and Shelly Creek Fire, which are located on the Six Rivers National Forest, Smith River National Recreation Area.
Fire Conditions
The Biscuit Fire Zone 2 is 28,680 acres. Fire line is now in place around the east, south and west portions of fire. The fire is currently 80% contained with full containment expected by 6:00 AM on Thursday, August 15. 1140 personnel are currently assigned to the fire.
The fire remains on the northeast side of the North Fork of the Smith River. Fire line construction is complete from High Plateau down slope to the North Fork of the Smith River. Today fire crews continue to strengthen lines with active patrolling of all lines watching for hot spots.
The Shelly Fire was put on patrol status again last night. The active flames reported yesterday within the perimeter of the Shelly Fire pose no threat. Today, fire crews will again focus on active patrol of firelines and taking care of any hot spots that have kicked up.
Weather Conditions
We will be in a period of warm, dry weather as a high-pressure ridge takes up residence off the coast. This will keep us under a light off shore flow at night. The onshore flow (northeast wind) will be in place this afternoon but it isn’t likely to be strong enough to overpower the local slope heating effects and primarily up slope/up drainage winds. Little change is expected over the next few days.
Temperatures today will continue to be warm, mostly 90’s on the fire. It will also remain dry with afternoon humidity between 16% and 24%.
Six Rivers National Forest Issues Forest Closure order
Six Rivers National Forest has issued a Fire Closure Order for the National Forest System lands within what was known as the Sour Biscuit (now Biscuit Fire - Zone 2). The order prohibits going into or being upon National Forest System lands within the closure area that is located north of State Highway 199 to the Oregon border. Being on any National Forest System road or trail within the Biscuit Fire Zone 2 area is prohibited. The following persons are exempt from this order: persons with a permit from the Forest Service, owners or lessees of land within the area, residents within the area to the extent necessary necessary to enter or leave their residence; and any Federal, State, or local officer or member of an organized rescue or fire fighting force in the performance of an official duty.
Red Cross Evacuation Shelter
The Red Cross has set up a food and evacuation shelter at Crescent Elk School. They have also made arrangements to assist evacuees with temporary placement of pets and livestock. For more information about the services, call 464-8380. Donations can be made by calling 464-2277.

fly-eating Cobra lily

Needs to be turned into the fire eating cobra lily

listening is the beginning of wisdom, the mark of a true warrior. - Worf

	Firefighter Able Lemus, from Madras, Ore., pauses while building a line around the Biscuit Fire near Brookings, Ore., Sunday, Aug. 10, 2002. The blaze has blackened over 330,000 acres and is the largest in Oregon in more than a century. (AP Photo/John Gress) - Aug 11 7:54 PM ET

	Mark Steele pauses while evacuating the Chetco River Valley from the Florence Fire near Brookings, Ore., Saturday, Aug. 10, 2002. Fire crews worked to secure a containment line around the southeastern portion of what has become Oregon's largest wildfire in over a century. Fire officials said they will rename the 333,891-acre Florence Fire to avoid confusion with an Oregon coastal city of the same name nearly 150 miles to the north. Starting Sunday, the fire will be called the Biscuit Fire, said Mike Ferris, fire spokesman. (AP Photo/John Gress) - Aug 11 3:28 PM ET

	Forrest Barrett, from Alberta, Canada leads his crew to battle the Florence fire near Brookings, Ore., Saturday, Aug. 10, 2002. The nation's largest active wildfire grew to about 333,890 acres early Saturday, making it Oregon's largest wildfire in over a century. (AP Photo/John Gress) - Aug 11 7:40 AM ET

	Fire Information Officers Peter D'Aquanni, left, and Tom Kroll, second from left, talk with Zach and Susan Rotwein about their vacation home in the Chetco River Valley near Brookings, Ore., Saturday, Aug. 10, 2002. Fire officials said they will rename the 333,891-acre Florence Fire to avoid confusion with an Oregon coastal city of the same name nearly 150 miles to the north. Starting Sunday, the fire will be called the Biscuit Fire, said Mike Ferris, fire spokesman. (AP Photo/John Gress) - Aug 10 10:24 PM ET

	Firefighters from Oregon's Willamette Valley clear brush to build a line around the Florence fire near Brookings, Ore., Saturday, Aug. 10, 2002. The nation's largest active wildfire grew to about 333,890 acres early Saturday, making it Oregon's largest wildfire in over a century. (AP Photo/John Gress) - Aug 10 5:35 PM ET

	Forrest Barrett, from Alberta, Canada leads his crew to battle the Florence fire near Brookings, Ore., Saturday, Aug. 10, 2002. The nation's largest active wildfir grew to about 333,890 acres early Saturday, making it Oregon's largest wildfire in over a century. (AP Photo/John Gress) - Aug 10 5:37 PM ET

	A helicopter heads out towards the sun to battle the Florence fire near Agnes, Ore., Friday, Aug. 9, 2002. In Curry County, a pre-evacuation notice was posted to make sure residents are ready to leave on a moment's notice if the fire, now at 308,000 acres, moves closer to a few dozen homes scattered along the river canyons near the ocean in the southwest corner of Oregon. (AP Photo/John Gress) - Aug 09 8:24 PM ET

	A helicopter battles the Florence fire near Agnes, Ore., Friday, Aug. 9, 2002. A pre-evacuation notice was posted to make sure residents are ready to leave on a moment's notice if the fire, now at 308,000 acres, moves closer to a few dozen homes scattered along the river canyons near the ocean in the southwest corner of Oregon. (AP Photo/John Gress) - Aug 09 8:22 PM ET

	Flames shoot into the air from the Florence fire near Agnes, Ore., Friday, Aug. 9, 2002. The fire has burned over 308,000 acres and is only 20-percent contained. A pre-evacuation notice was posted to make sure residents are ready to leave on a moment's notice if the fire, now at 308,000 acres, moves closer to a few dozen homes scattered along the river canyons near the ocean in the southwest corner of Oregon. (AP Photo/John Gress) - Aug 09 8:21 PM

PILOT NEWS ALERT: SUNDAY'S FIRE UPDATE

Published: August 11, 2002

Dear Readers:

No evacuation notices have been issued for any Curry County communities as of noon Sunday.

Highway 199 remains open and the evacuation order for Gasquet has been lifted.

SPECIAL NOTE: There will be two public information meetings Monday, Aug. 12, at 7 p.m. in Agness and Brookings. The Agness meeting will happen at the Agness Community Center; the Brookings meeting will happen at Azalea Middle School. The status of the fire, general fire information and maps will be shared with residents.

Fire officials reported that the entire Biscuit Fire (formerly called Florence Fire) was relatively inactive Saturday. The inversion layer lifted by by 2 p.m. and by 5 p.m.the fire had become very active. Fire crews took advantage of the burning conditions late in the afternoon to conduct burn outs to better secure the western flanks of the fire line. Saturday¹s light winds, blowing to the east, directed the burn out towards the main fire front and helped to secure portions of the fire line.

Private residents in Oak Flat, Agness, Illahe on the Rogue River, Wilderness Retreat on the Chetco River, Gardner Ridge and the area north of Wilson Prairie Creek remain on pre-evacuation notice.

As of Sunday, the fire had burned 333,891 acres and is 25 percent contained.

The current fire boundaries in Curry County are reported as:

-- two air miles southeast of Oak Flat in the Rogue River drainage,

-- four air miles east of the Wilderness Retreat area in the Chetco River drainage,

-- two miles north of Gasquet, Calif.

-- 16 miles northeast from Brookings.

A Fire Weather Watch has been issued in portions of southwest Oregon for strong northeast winds and low relative humidity. A weak upper level disturbance was moving across the fire area Sunday morning bringing unstable conditions. Behind this disturbance a dry northeast flow will set up. A thermal trough will build along the coast to create light east winds beginning tonight through Wednesday morning. Very hot and dry conditions are expected to continue.

The fire continues to be active near Agness, Collier Butte and Quail Prairie Mountain. Crews are preparing portions of the fire line for expected burning operations to further secure the fire lines near Agness, Oak Flat and other strategic locations.

A burnout operation near Quail Prairie and Toleman Ranch was planned for today (Aug. 11). The fire had burned over the fire line near Quail Mountain, but was quickly cooled down with water dropped from helicopters. A heavy-lift capacity helicopter (Sikorsky-61) experienced an engine failure Saturday and safely landed at Toleman Ranch. A new engine was trucked into the meadow overnight and has been installed. The helicopter is expected to be back up in the air sometime today (Aug. 11).

Fire officials¹ objective for today was to establish a line to keep the fire east of the ridge running from Lawson Creek to Sugarloaf Mountain, and from Snow Camp Mountain to Mineral Hill. They will also be preparing segments of roads and dozer lines for future burnout operations.

Closures: The entire Siskiyou National Forest is under a fire closure. All open campfires are prohibited. Most Forest Service roads and trails south of the Agness Road (#33) are closed to public access and the Upper Rogue River Trail is closed. The Bear Camp Road (#23) is closed, with travel limited to emergency vehicles only.

Boat traffic: Currently there are no restrictions on tour boats, fishing or rafting on the Rogue River. The Quosatana Campground and boat ramp is closed. Lobster Creek and Foster Bar boat ramps are open.

Total resources battling the entire fire as of Sunday: 46 Type I crews, 124 Type II crews, 54 helicopters, 183 engines, 1,341 overhead, 93 dozers and 69 water tenders. In addition, 366 fire support personnel from Canada are assisting in the fire, 116 Oregon National Guard personnel are staffing road closures and will provide security should evacuations become necessary. There are now 6,081 people assigned to the Biscuit Fire, the biggest in Oregon¹s history and the number one priority in the United States.

It's interesting to see how the fire has grown since the lightning strikes of July 13 that started the fires. The Curry Coastal Pilot has placed links to satellite images of the fire at www.currypilot.com. Our friends at Northwest Technical have create a similar set at www.nwtec.com

The Pilot will continue to monitor the news and send News Alerts as necessary. For a special "Thank You Firefighters" poster that you can place in your window, pick up a copy of Saturday's edition (Aug. 10) of the Curry Coastal Pilot.

Thanks for using The Pilot for your news and information,

Scott Graves

Editor

"Some logging would have gone a long way to preventing cedar root rot."

It appears that you have a personal stake in this.
;o)

Thanks for your post, pings and updates!

See you all in the morning!

>ecologist Dr. Tom Atzet balked. The federally designated area contains at least three sensitive plant species, including the fly-eating Cobra lily, and serves as a crucial research spot.

That guy is a blithering idiot!

>Jesus is coming back, and he is bringing a sword

And fire.

2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Great Pictures and thanks for your skills and help!

Praise God and pass the ammo.... think I see an enviro-wacko....

Here is the latest map that I could find. The red dotted line is the Kalmiopsis Wilderness Boundary. The reddish pink area is what has burnt. There is no wilderness area not burnt except on the Western side. The Green line is the containment area. When the reddish pink area expands on the Western side to the Green Line, that will mean most of the Wilderness Area has burnt.

That fire will not be put out by man. It will have to be put out by nature this fall/winter when the monsoon rains in that area come. The western side gets 40 to 90 inches of rain each fall/winter/spring rainy season. Can you imagine the mud and erosion aftert this fire.

One of the most beautiful spots on earth not just Oregon has been decimated, is being decimated and will be decimated due to the Green Enviralist Tree Hugging and Fly Eating Lilly Lovers.

The al Qaeda Islamakazis can only dream of damaging America in this size and scope that our own Green Jihadist Tree and Lilly Huggers have brought about.