Posted on 08/10/2002 6:07:37 AM PDT by ResistorSister
MASSILLON (OHIO) -- A city police officer and a man he was chasing are dead, killed in a shootout at the old Agathon ballfield Friday night.
Killed were Eric Taylor, 31, a four-year veteran of the Police Department, and a still unidentified suspect.
This is a major tragedy for our city, said Mayor Francis Cicchinelli, who announced Taylors death at Massillon Community Hospital at about 11:45 p.m.
Taylor was married, with three young children.
Investigators from the Ohio Highway Patrol, Massillon Police Department and Stark County coroners office remained at the scene past midnight, as did the body of the suspect, a balding, white man who was driving a four-door Ford sedan with Stark County license plates. His body was covered with one sheet, another blocked the view of the more than 100 bystanders who gathered near First Street and Cherry Road NW.
The trouble began shortly before 8:30 p.m. on Route 21 and Edwards Road in Wayne County near Doylestown, according to Lt. Herb Homan, commander of the Wooster Post of the Highway Patrol.
One of his troopers had stopped the southbound Ford on Route 21 at 8:22 p.m. for speeding. The trooper talked with the driver, there was a confrontation and five minutes later, the trooper reported the car was fleeing. He chased it south, and Massillon police got involved.
The chase ended in Massillon east of Route 21, in the ballfield just south of Cherry Road.
Lt. Gary Lewis of the Highway Patrol said the man got out of his car with a high-powered semiautomatic weapon, and that he fired first at officers. At least three Massillon officers and a trooper were involved in the gunfire. He said they dont know which officer fired the shot that killed the suspect nor do they know which shot killed Taylor.
Scott McElfresh said he was watching television in his home on Cherry Road, northeast of the scene, when he heard shots. He looked out his window and saw flashes from gunfire.
He estimated he heard four shots and then an additional 30 to 40 shots, and that he saw flashes indicating police were returning fire.
Its not something you expect to happen in Massillon, he said.
Other witnesses said they heard 10 to 12 shots.
We didnt know if it was fireworks or gunshots, said Dave Hodgson, who was with friends about a block to the north.
Stark County Coroner James Pritchard said the suspect died of gunshot wounds, but he wont know how many until he does an autopsy on the man today. Hell also do an autopsy on Taylor.
Taylor was rushed from the scene to Massillon Community moments after the shooting.
The suspects body remained on the corner of a field off of First Street and Cherry Road until after midnight. Police said they had not verified the mans identification, and they wouldnt release his name until family was notified.
Through the early morning, Taylors cruiser and the suspects car remained in the middle of the field on which The Arena is being built.
The Highway Patrol and Massillon police are sharing the investigation.
They used 44 red cups to mark shell casings and other pieces of evidence on First Street. Bright lights illuminated the scene, showing the back window of a Massillon cruiser was shattered, and glass was scattered across the street.
A helicopter from Columbus was brought in to map the crime scene.
A handful of officers not involved in the investigation showed up at the scene, some in uniform and some in street clothes, somber and stone faced. Family of other officers showed up, patted a couple of officers on the back, shook their hands and hugged them.
A police chaplain met with the family at Massillon Community.
A red tent for officers was pitched in the yard of the Massillon Recreation Center, across the street from the crime scene.
Well said.
He had also made quite a nuisance of himself in the Ohio state courts, often clearing them entirely by threatening to impeach judges who had not timely filed an oath of office. He frequently appeared in state court as a champion of poor defendants and, on rare occasions, was even granted standing as counsel even though he was not a lawyer.
The error was set at the very first moment when Matthews refused to show his drivers license. Once the chase took over and the police had him corned pointing guns at him Matthews knew that it was over for him. He had no chance in the Courts, I'm sure that any judge who took his case would've been more than happy to send him to jail.
I'm sorry about the outcome. This doesn't help second amendment advocates, and it doesn't help their cause. This is not the way to fight a battle.
May both souls rest in peace.
I can only comment upon my experiences, that some people will try to shoehorn the facts into their perceptions, whether the facts fit or not. We all do that to some extent. But most of us know when the facts ain't gonna fit, no matter how hard we try, and we don't bother with further effort, but instead alter our perceptions to fit the facts...
Interesting how your argument has suddenly changed.
If you want to hyperbolize, you might want to make your numbers a little more believeable.
The idea is that most people don't have the time or the desire to contest a ticket in court, especially if they're just passing through from another state. And I've personally seen five such tickets for precisely the offense I'm talking about - 1mph over the posted limit - in my years here. But if reality is sometimes too hyperbolic for you, that's fine with me. You're welcome to your opinion.
The troopers are tough on out-of-staters....luckily the state's residents learn where all the speed traps that they pass everyday. Funny how this thread has taken a turn. I hope the cop killer is executed.
Sounds like his mental illness contributed to his death.
Uh, FITZ, it's a felony, from what I understand, to pull away from a legal traffic stop. I have been pulled over a few times in my life. The last time, in Montana back in January, I was doing 15 mph over the speed limit, and the cop gave me a warning, bless him. A sheriff's deputy for the county I was in. You know, the level of government that so many freepers profess to love. Well, if you love local government, why do you decry them when they exert their legal authority?
Now, now... be nice to ol' stinkspurt.
He may be sadly misinformed on a lot of issues, but he doesn't intentionally lie.
by Mark Pitcavage
It is late at night and the rain beats down on the windshield of your patrol car. A Chevy Blazer speeds by, dousing your vehicle with a spray of fine mist. As the wipers clear your view, you notice that something is strange about that Blazer. The rear license plate had a lot of funny writing on it. They were obviously not plates from your state, but they didnt seem to be plates from any other state youd ever seen before, either.
Who would make up their own plates? It seems a little odd. But you pull out into the road and accelerate to catch up to the Blazer. Its hard to see the plates because of the rain, but they are clearly not legitimate plates. In fact, you can just barely make out the wording on them: "Sovereign Private Property...Immunity Declared at Law...Non-Commercial American." This is a little bit more exotic than a "Save our Lakes" specialty plate. You turn on your lights.
The Blazer ignores them, keeps going. Irritated, you turn on the siren. Finally, the vehicle in front of you pulls over to the side of the road. You get out of the patrol car, curse the rain, and walk up to the Blazer. The back of the vehicle is festooned with bumper stickers. "End Judicial Dictatorship." "FREEDOM wasnt won with a REGISTERED GUN." "Sovereign Forever, New World Order--Never." Youve never seen stickers like this before. Judicial dictatorship?
As you walk past the vehicle, you see a message in vinyl letters posted on one of the side windows: ''No One Is Bound to Obey an Unconstitutional Law and No Courts Are Bound To Enforce It, 16th Am Jur 2 Ed 256.'' You reach the driver-side door. The window rolls down part-way and an angry face greets you. It is attached to a middle-aged man, Caucasian, scraggly hair, dressed in work clothes.
"Could you roll down your window, sir?" you ask.
"Are you arresting me?" the driver asks belligerently.
Sir, could you please roll down your window?"
Instead of complying, the driver hands you a folded up sheet of paper. You pull out your flashlight to take a look at it, trying to protect it from the rain. It seems about as strange as the license plates and the bumper stickers.
"NOTICE TO ARRESTING OFFICER WITH MIRANDA WARNING," it reads. It identifies the driver as a "Civil Rights Investigator." Its hard to read the fine print on the document, but it seems to be saying that you cannot arrest the driver without a warrant unless you immediately take him to a judge to determine if the arrest was lawful. It threatens to sue you "in your INDIVIDUAL capacity" if you improperly arrest him without a warrant. Near the bottom it states that if you ignore these warnings, "it will show bad faith on your part and prima facie evidence of your deliberate indifference to Constitutionally mandated rights."
You shine the flashlight on the driver. He is smiling at you.
What do you do?
Rest of the article: http://www.adl.org/mwd/trafstop.htm
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