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Bush Administration Decides Not to Require Written Patient Consent for Sharing Medical Records
ap ^ | August 9, 2002 | Janelle Carter

Posted on 08/09/2002 3:28:25 PM PDT by TomGuy

Bush Administration Decides Not to Require Written Patient Consent for Sharing Medical Records

By Janelle Carter Associated Press Writer

Published: Aug 9, 2002

WASHINGTON (AP) - Hospitals and physicians can share private information about a patient's health with HMOs and insurance companies without the patient's permission, the Bush administration said Friday in a decision denounced by privacy advocates.

Finalizing rules on the handling of medical records, the Department of Health and Human Services set aside a Clinton administration proposal that would have required a patient's written consent before that information could be released.

However, doctors and other health care providers will have to notify patients of privacy policies and make a "good faith effort" to get written acknowledgment under the new policy. Health care providers had complained that requiring written permission could stall needed treatments.

The Clinton version "would have forced sick or injured patients to run all around town getting signatures before they could get care or medicine," said Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson.

He said the Bush administration's approach "strikes a common-sense balance by providing consumers with personal privacy protections and access to high quality care."

"Patients now will have a strong foundation of federal protections for the personal medical information that they share with their doctors, hospitals and others who provide their care and help pay for it," Thompson said.

The regulations take effect April 14, 2003.

The Clinton version of the proposal, which was never put into effect, would have required signed consent forms from patients even for routine matters such as billing statements to insurance providers. The Bush administration announced in March that it planned to strip the written consent requirement from the medical privacy regulations.

Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., chairman of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, promised to introduce legislation to reinstate the mandatory consent forms.

"These regulations are a serious setback for medical privacy," Kennedy said Friday. "Insurance companies and HMOs are given broad access to highly sensitive personal medical information. Action by Congress is clearly needed to guarantee all Americans that the privacy of their medical records will not be abused."

The regulations clarify that personal information cannot be sold or given to drug companies or others that want to market a product or service without patient permission. The final version includes more explicit language to ensure that companies don't use business associate agreements to circumvent marketing rules.

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On the Net:

Health and Human Services regulations: http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/hipaa

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; bush; medicalrecords; patientsrights; privacylist
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To: TomGuy
Bush: Scum.
121 posted on 08/10/2002 8:44:57 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: caddie
Good points, Bones, but I just don't trust W doing any kind of shortcuts with the status quo. I just don't think the Constitution and personal liberty means anything to him.

Do you realize under the status quo, insurance companies and HMO's can distribute your information to third party firms who can then market to you, things like Depends and pharmacueticals? They wont be allowed to do that, without your written permission once this goes into effect.

So your choice is do you want to have third parties knowing your medical history or not. If you want legal protection against third parties getting access to and using your info, then you have to support what Bush just did.

122 posted on 08/10/2002 8:48:00 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: Dave S
Bush came in to office and has rewritten the rules to make them reasonable Reasonable? Remains to be seen. I haven't yet seen these rules, but if all he changed was the signature requirement, there is still a lot of crap in the regulations, including provisions that the government can come in and look at or demand medical records without patient consent.

The Bush administration is as interested in writing intrusive regulations as the Clinton administration was. I didn't need the government telling me how to handle medical records for the last 20 years, and I don't now.

Actually, I may opt out of the system. Unless they changed this option in the final rule, physician offices with less than 10 people who use paper billing instead of electronic billing can opt out.

Pretty ridiculous isn't it? In order to free myself and my patients from the requirements and obligations of these regulations, I have to give up using a computerized system and go back to paper.

These rules, by the way, really do nothing to "protect your privacy" from insurance companies. Your insuror and all of the Tom, Dick's, Harry's and Jane's can still require all of your medical information they want. Now, that information can be gotten by the government, as well, if this provision hasn't been changed.

When you want to buy a gun in 4 years, when Hillary is president, and your new federal permit application is denied because your physician treated you for depression one time, then you will understand the unintended...or intended, perhaps...consequence of these Bush pro-government regulations.

123 posted on 08/10/2002 8:59:47 AM PDT by Jesse
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To: Weirdad
great commentary. Right on target. I was involved with the genesis of the HIPAA regulations and saw it happen (and could do nothing to stop it).

Your analysis is strong, with the exception that you missed the economic reasons for their behavior. I can summarize it best by simply saying "Oracle".

124 posted on 08/10/2002 9:02:01 AM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: bimbo
Once the records are beyond the physician-patient relationship, there is no privacy!

Well Bimbo, then welcome to the Brave New World of 1984 because your records have already traveled far beyond your physician. You have no privacy unless you pay cash.

125 posted on 08/10/2002 9:03:43 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: caddie
Total sellout....I can't believe I voted for this TURD!
126 posted on 08/10/2002 9:34:17 AM PDT by taxed2death
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To: cva66snipe
No! The problem IS related to California politics. The Davis Campaign has accepted $130,000 from Martin Wygod, the CEO of WebMD. WebMD is a cool company, but the reality is that when Wygod gives Davis $130,000 IT IS A CALIFORNIA POLITICAL ISSUE!
127 posted on 08/10/2002 12:02:26 PM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: codercpc
But, why is it that the insurer is permitted this kind of free access to medical information? The reality is that the insurer has no reason to peruse patient records.
128 posted on 08/10/2002 12:04:36 PM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: Weirdad
"Moreover, it virtually REQUIRES electronic medical records because it is too hard to comply with many of the provisions without them."

If a doctor does not use electronic billing then they are exempt from HIPPA....Of course that is virtually impossible nowadays. I agree the whole thing should be scrapped along with E&M coding guidelines....They are just as stupid and unworkable.
129 posted on 08/10/2002 12:34:20 PM PDT by arkfreepdom
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To: Dave S
You are incorrect that the current state of the law allows insurance companies or health care providers to share confidential patient information with marketing companies, etc. As always, doctors can share necessary information with other providers who are involved in the patient's care. Insurance companies can share NOTHING with ANYONE, absent a court order.

If someone is improperly disclosing patient information, they can and should be sued. They will lose BIG TIME and could also lose any license which they hold. So, this is simply not a problem that has any need to be addressed. It's just not happening, at least not to any extent that it has ever come to my attention (and I am very well informed on this subject.)

Since we have no problem, and since it is none of the federal government's business in the first place, Clinton's bogus rules should be reversed and never go into effect. That will leave us with the status quo, which is working just fine and has been for decades.

More insulting comments from you will not change this reality.
130 posted on 08/10/2002 12:57:21 PM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: bimbo
I trust my physician with my health records … I do NOT trust those who could acquire those records without needing them– any HMO, NIH, CDC, Credit Agencies, Insurance Companies, Social Security Agency, Dept of Justice, Grad Student Writing a Thesis, etc. Once the records are beyond the physician-patient relationship, there is no privacy!

I stand by my statement. And a simple solution would be to have in your records on file that no other party should have your information if it is not medically necessary, insurance and physician. Other than that the patient having easy access to logs that show listings of all inquirers to medical records for any given time period; and recourse if privacy has been breached. The alternative would be to not seek any medical attention because of fear of who could access your records.

131 posted on 08/10/2002 1:38:13 PM PDT by swheats
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To: AM2000
"I guess if I want my elected representatives to give a rats ass about me, I better get out there and make myself a whole lotta money...."

You'll never compete with the giant $ of Big Business and foreign governments. The only chance we have is to outlaw lobbies. And they'll never do that. I'll vote Republican for the Senate this time, but from here on out, I'll go independent and write in all the way. I'm sick of this two party rip off. I'm convinced its the only way things will change. Independents are growing in number almost daily. If we can find a viable third party candidate and all unite behind him, we can take back this country.

132 posted on 08/10/2002 2:36:16 PM PDT by brat
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
My point is that you "proved" Bush was in favor of certain legislation simply because a person who favored those ideas endorsed him.

Go back and read that post again. Let me ask you something. If I wanted to make political points running for office and the person supported items I DID NOT ENDORSE don't you think I could find an issue that I could say was good and NOT LEAVE THE IMPRESSION I AS Well SUPPORTED THIS AGENDA? The words were from Georgewbush.com not AP it was his own press release in his own site. That says it all.

You will find very simular misconceptions in the forum that Bush is Pro second ammendment. He is not and he never was. After reading his press releases on the matter clarifies his positions of restrictions after restrictions on gun ownership.

But the article I posted has Bush PRAISING SUNDQUIST FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE

and not the other way around.

133 posted on 08/10/2002 3:09:31 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: TomGuy
The trial attornies were counting their retainers before they hatched.
134 posted on 08/10/2002 3:13:45 PM PDT by joyful1
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To: WilliamWallace1999
Also, I did not let on I WAS a doctor; because I assumed THEN you would rant on about them and WELL YOU DID. I am a medical director for a small RURAL group and we are looking at a HUGE increase in cost to comply with this poorly thought out "privacy" law.

And I am the husband and sole care giver to a quadriplegic spouse of 17 years who has fought HMO's the state paid to take over Medicaid tooth and nail. No outside help given BTW I do the care. Don't tell me about paper work and run arounds. I fought against this type of program happening tooth and nail. The truth is congress should not be protecting HMO's. The truth is Medicaid since money for services has been taken needs to be returned to it's origional intent and under scrunity of the state department of health under the state inspector generals office and not some politicans politically connected HMO.

I understand a lot more about this issue than you think I do. I want HMO's held liable in court for their malpractice do you? If they so choose to make a medical decession of life and death then they should as you Doctor answer for it. No I'm not saying I'm lawsuit happy. What I'm saying is the prior approval crap needs to stop. Write the rules and codes out in simple terms. This-this is covered period. This is not covered period. No questions, no begging, no prior approvals needed. Now would that or would that not stop most of it? If procedure A-R is covered then the doctor and only the attending doctor should say yes it needs done or no it does not.

But this issue only serves to side track addressing that ongoing abuse and like so many other Bush ideas justifies the abuse instead of addressing it. Get it now? Why should you Doctor be asking Hey MOE can I do this when the terms should be spelled out in laymans terms and be legally binding. No reason would be needed to violate privacy now would there?

135 posted on 08/10/2002 3:28:04 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: Iwo Jima
Why is this any business of the federal government at all?

Regardless of which side of the issue is right, does the executive branch actually have constitutional authority to be even making such decisions?

136 posted on 08/10/2002 3:47:15 PM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: bonesmccoy
No! The problem IS related to California politics. The Davis Campaign has accepted $130,000 from Martin Wygod, the CEO of WebMD. WebMD is a cool company, but the reality is that when Wygod gives Davis $130,000 IT IS A CALIFORNIA POLITICAL ISSUE!

I understand what you're saying. My state senator is a pharmicist at a local hospital. He also sits on the Tenn Care Oversight Committee and has been consistant in pro-HMO policies up to and including support of a state income tax to fund an HMO Universal Health Care System in our state. He BTW is also a Republican. I will not be voting for him in November. No not even for the sake of the GOP. I've had it and will not help such programs continue. Till people take off their party hats and start holding both parties elected responsible nothing good is going to happen in health care reform. But actually It's not near so much health care reform needed as it is a crack down on Health Care Insurance Industry abuses. Both parties are up to their necks in this and covering it up.

137 posted on 08/10/2002 4:19:24 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: cva66snipe
A search of the Sec. of State campaign finance database in California suggests that you are correct. In fact, in federal policies the HMO's have sent more money to the GOP than the Dem's. Small wonder that the GOP weaklings passed HIPAA and HMO laws in the last ten years.

Now, we have to get active to kick loser GOP incumbents out. We need the real conservative and strong guys in.

That's why I'm supporting Bill Simon.

138 posted on 08/10/2002 4:23:17 PM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: Dave S
In the meantime get your ass covered before you cant get coverage at any price. Then worry about whether some marketing company is sending you literature on Depends.

Its not just ads for Depends. They sell info the credit agencies like Experien and Equifax. The credit agencies sell your info to anybody with 30 bucks.

I'd rather die than put up with this sort of BS.

139 posted on 08/10/2002 5:05:41 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: codercpc; arkfreepdom
An insurance company only has the right to your records for the claims they are being asked to pay for. You are still in control.

You are not in "control". They sell info the credit agencies like Experien and Equifax. The credit agencies sell your info to anybody with 30 bucks. I'd rather die than put up with this sort of BS.

Whatever, in connection with my professional practice or not, in connection with it, I see or hear, in the life of men, which ought not to be spoken of abroad, I will not divulge, as reckoning that all such should be kept secret. While I continue to keep this Oath unviolated, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and the practice of the art, respected by all men, in all times! But should I trespass and violate this Oath, may the reverse be my lot!

So the first thing I know about my Doctor is that he is a liar. Why should I let this person treat me?

140 posted on 08/10/2002 5:09:45 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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