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Israel to send experts to Congo
Internet Jerusalem Post ^ | 30 Av 5762, Thursday Aug. 8, 2002 | JANINE ZACHARIA

Posted on 08/07/2002 5:12:58 PM PDT by Phil V.

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To: Phil V.
Larry has been doing some great research. This small article may or may not add a sliver of information.

What? How to use the bold tags? Congratulations, Larry!

23 posted on 08/07/2002 8:51:40 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: Tropoljac
Unless it's the murky African business that many, not just Israelis, are doing in Africa these days

Right, right. And we are in Afghanistan cause of oil. Right, right. It all makes sense now. Keep up the good work.

24 posted on 08/07/2002 8:53:16 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: LarryLied
He succeeded in persuading the White House to secretly buy a vast number of diamonds for the US strategic reserve - at a time when Administration officials were protesting that the reserve was over full.

Tell me. In the end, did this make money for USA or not?

25 posted on 08/07/2002 8:54:37 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: Phil V.
What? You mean the Palestinians aren't sending their great agronimists, scientists and humanitarians there?

Oh, what's that you say...they don't have any?

Well...what can they do...Oh, the Congolese don't want to teach their children how to kill themselves.

So sorry.

Never mind.

26 posted on 08/07/2002 8:56:44 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: veronica
Looks like Israel is helping some needy people

glad to see it. for all the reasons you mentioned and because it means less money out of the us budget.

if israel keeps on helping too many countries, they will be hated for their imperialist ways. (smile: rarely do you see a live and let live society as is israel.)

27 posted on 08/07/2002 9:08:15 PM PDT by mlocher
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
What is your point Larry – or should I say, what is your agenda?

Tempelsman is a long time Democrat party supporter. The entire diamond trade is heavily Democrat.

Free Republic is a conservative forum. We go after Democrats. Remember?

Btw...Democrats are trying to nail Bush and Cheney over Africa. Lieberman and Levin want to investigate Harken and Halliburton. They want to know what Cheney's company did in Angola.

So why not post what DNC big shot Maurice Tempelsman did in Angola? Why not show the profit Democrats have made for 40 years exploiting Africa? Any reason why the fact that Tempelsman gave the Kennedy family oil leases in Angola should not be discussed?

Did you know Liberals are making a big stink about Laura Bush being friends with the wife of a man involved in Anglogate?

Why is that fair but what I post is not?

Whose side are you on?

28 posted on 08/07/2002 9:10:07 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied; Phil V.; veronica
Free Republic is a conservative forum. We go after Democrats. Remember?

Then why do we have a tendency to post from the leftist Ha'aretz?

29 posted on 08/07/2002 9:18:16 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: BrooklynGOP; Tropoljac; Shermy; Phil V.
From the Washington Post:

The U.S. government estimates that smuggled African diamonds represent 10 percent to 15 percent of the global diamond trade, a State Department official said, a share worth $5 billion to $7 billion per year at current prices
The Post goes on to state that Belgium imported 8.3 million carats of rough diamonds from Liberia in 1997-1998

Liberia only produces 60,000 carats a year.

Belgium has announced arrest warrents are out for Victor Bout and Lebanese diamond merchants Samih Ossailly and Sanjivan Ruprah. In the same press release, Belgium mentioned an immediate investigation of Limo Diamonds. Bout, Ossailly and Ruprah are suspected of trading arms to Al Qaeda for diamonds. Belgium did not say why Limo diamonds is being investigated but one can surmise.

The directors of Limo Diamonds are Moshe Fisher and Israel Fisher. One of their offices is in the Ramat Gan diamond exchange in Tel Aviv.

Shmuel Shnitzer and a "Mr. Gertler" (who operates out of Liberia and Sierra Leone, where Al Qaeda selling diamonds) are reported by the UN to have traded arms for diamonds in Africa. Both are prominent dealers in the Ramat Gan diamond exchange.

Details and links here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/727635/posts?page=1

31 posted on 08/07/2002 9:41:14 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: BrooklynGOP
Then why do we have a tendency to post from the leftist Ha'aretz?

Excuuuuse me!?

32 posted on 08/07/2002 9:44:13 PM PDT by Phil V.
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To: Phil V.
Please practice your comprehension skills, you might note the word "tendency" in there which would refer to your habit of posting from Ha'aretz. As your friend has mentioned in #28

Free Republic is a conservative forum

Perhaps you would like to explain to him why you feel the need to post articles from the leftist Ha'aretz? I'ld like to see that one.

34 posted on 08/07/2002 10:22:31 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: LarryLied
The directors of Limo Diamonds are Moshe Fisher and Israel Fisher. One of their offices is in the Ramat Gan diamond exchange in Tel Aviv.

Why is there no mention of their other offices and their locations?

35 posted on 08/07/2002 10:23:20 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: BrooklynGOP; terilyn
More on Limo Diamonds is Here

Limo does seem to deal in diamond rough. Sarin Technologies Ltd. which sells equipment used in cutting rough lists Limo as a customer.

36 posted on 08/07/2002 10:32:59 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: BrooklynGOP; meyer; KenGum4; Torie; Hornetsrule; Phil V.; Tropoljac; veronica; Grampa Dave; ...
Published in African Security Review Vol 10 No 3, 2001
Blood Diamonds
Effective African-based monopolies?
Christian Dietrich

Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC)

The monopoly’s success

An Israeli firm, International Diamond Industries (IDI), headed by Dan Gertler, was awarded an 18-month monopoly on diamond exports from the DRC in July 2000 through the company’s subsidiary IDI-Congo, to take effect 30 days after signature. The contract was repealed in April 2001, although the company continues its purchasing operations. At the time of signing, the DRC minister of Mines, Bishikwabo Chubaka, defended the diamond monopoly:

"This is the optimum way for the Congo diamond production to be marketed in a transparent manner that will inspire trust and confidence in the country’s certificate of origin, which will accompany each and every parcel to be exported by IDI."4

Nearly one year later, certificates of origin have yet to be instituted. Despite government officials defending the contract as a means to prevent the export of conflict diamonds and increase state revenue, the deal was in reality meant to provide cash for the war effort, as well as military assistance, presumably from the Israelis. . .

IDI-Congo’s export contract coincided with the government’s suspension of all other export licenses, supposed to be valid until the end of 2000. Foreign dealers had to leave the DRC as their work permits were annulled. Artisan diggers and local traders were still allowed to operate but were required to sell to IDI-Congo.6 Increased fraud resulted as many of the local traders refused to sell to IDI-Congo. The monopoly was accused by its competitors of:

"cherrypicking the best Congolese diamonds and offering below-market prices for the rest, frustrating many producers who then smuggle their stones across the border for sale in the neighbouring Republic of Congo."

. . .The recent United Nations report on the plundering of the DRC’s resources briefly mentions IDI-Congo:

"This deal turned out to be a nightmare for the Government of the Democratic Republic of the Congo and a disaster for the local diamond trade as well as an embarrassment for the Republic of Congo, which is currently flirting with illicit diamonds. According to different sources, IDI paid only $3 million instead of $20 million and never supplied military equipment."

This uncharacteristic attack seems curious. The report is vague about the diamond trade in the rebel-held portions of the DRC, raising suspicion about the panel’s research methodology. Furthermore, it is impossible to verify the UN’s unsupported allegations against IDI-Congo. Subjective wording such as ‘nightmare’ and ‘disaster’ could make detractors suspect that the monopoly’s competitors supplied the information cited by the UN.

Other concerns

Nkingi, one of the signatories of the contract, mentioned a possible venture with Israeli military specialists working in the DRC as part of the deal for the IDI-Congo contract. He alluded that the Israeli army would assist with training the police anti-smuggling unit and that this deal was one of the reasons why the company was chosen. This was denied by IDI-Congo, the Israeli Defence Ministry and the DRC government, with Nkingi later jailed for unspecified reasons. Chorev, IDI-Congo’s spokesperson, noted that IDI-Congo was "not directly involved in any military operation."

Copies of alleged correspondence between Dan Gertler Diamonds (DGD) and the DRC government show that Gertler had attempted to enter the country since early 1998, before IDI-Congo had been formed. One letter, dated 12 March 1998 in Kinshasa and addressed to the minister of Mines, Kibassa Maliba, noted that DGD is a capable diamond trading company. It refers to its activities in Russia, Sierra Leone and Guinea, and states that the company "owns and operates its own mining, transportation and security equipment, and trains its own personnel." It proposed a contract for the purchase US $2 billion in rough diamonds over a period of 24 months. A memorandum of intent, dated 12 March 1998, is allegedly part of the correspondence between Maliba and Gertler over the proposed contract. The last paragraph of the memorandum mentions a company named the Russian Military Brotherhood (RMB), created by presidential decree on 23 June 1995 in Russia, and refers to contracts concluded between RMB and DGD on 25 February 1998. . .

Little information is available on RMB. An internet address was obtained from the Embassy of the Russian Federation in Washington DC. The site lists RMB’s activities as a military school and a programme for teenage abusers of alcohol and narcotics. RMB appears to be a non-governmental organisation, even though it was created by presidential decree. Another source notes that RMB comprises Russian generals who had initially opposed Yeltsin’s military reforms, but then pledged allegiance to the president in 1995, playing into the struggle between the Russian Defence Minister and the head of the State Duma Defence Committee.

Diamond industry sources in Belgium allege that there could be a business relationship between Gertler and Lev Leviev, one of the principals in Angola’s diamond monopoly, with further allegations that Leviev had helped Gertler to secure the DRC monopoly and that the Angolan government had lobbied Kinshasa to continue the IDI-Congo contract. These unsubstantiated rumours led to suggestions of a common link between Israeli and Russian interests, and were further fuelled by reports that a Russian named Bill Davidson works for IDI-Congo, reportedly as the company’s representative. IDI-Congo indicated that he is a Russian, doing freelance work for many organisations.

Despite the tenuous associations outlined thus far, an Israeli journalist remarked that it is:

"difficult to believe that Gertler would become involved in an arms deal in the Congo after he lost a considerable amount of money in Sierra Leone, and his mother and grand-father would not have allowed it in any case."

In September 1999, it was noted in the media that Gertler was linked to Dov Katz and (former IDF Col) Yair Klein in a programme of diamond purchases in exchange for military training and arms deliveries in Liberia and Sierra Leone in 1997.

Katz was the link between Gertler, providing financing, and Klein, providing the training. The operation failed due to convoluted military and political developments in Sierra Leone that led to the lengthy imprisonment of Klein in Freetown under suspicion of arming the rebels. Klein had reportedly been involved in training for the Medellin drug cartel in Colombia in the 1980s. He was convicted in Israel of illegally exporting military equipment and has evaded a warrant for his arrest in the US for his activities in Colombia. IDI-Congo currently has a buying operation in Sierra Leone. . .

http://www.iss.co.za/PUBS/ASR/10NO3/Dietrich.html

All this is why Democrats are trying to defeat Cynthia McKinney in the primary. It has nothing to do with her votes on Israel. It has everything to do with her exposing the money Israel and the DLC part of the Democrat party take out of Africa. McKinney's fate was sealed when she made this comment:

"Why should Antwerp and Tel Aviv be built on the limbs and backs of Freetown, Luanda and Kinshasa?"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/723695/posts?page=201,38

37 posted on 08/07/2002 11:17:08 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
Why should Antwerp and Tel Aviv be built on the limbs and backs of Freetown, Luanda and Kinshasa?

Some people (actually a lot) will argue that USA is getting richer off the backs of the 3rd world. What do you think?

38 posted on 08/08/2002 4:38:04 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: LarryLied
Lev Leviev

You really have it in for this fine gentleman and upstanding citizen. May I ask what he did to you personally that you are spamming all these reports, which BTW to not implicate him in any wrongdoing whatsoever????

39 posted on 08/08/2002 4:46:08 AM PDT by Alouette
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To: LarryLied
*Whose side are you on?

You support McKinney. And you are on her side becausde she is anti-Israel and seems to dislike Jews, like you. Why don't you quit spamming every thread with your obsessive weirdness.

40 posted on 08/08/2002 5:22:07 AM PDT by scratchgolfer
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