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Proofs of Evolution Examined - Answers to my Evolutionist Friends (excerpt)
www.creationism.org ^ | 4-20-2002 | Thomas F. Heinze

Posted on 08/07/2002 3:02:38 AM PDT by prisoner6

Answers to my Evolutionist Friends  ·   by Thomas F. Heinze


This is the book I am working on now. Would you like to help?
If you find a mistake, let me know. If you think of things I
should have added, tell me. Whatever! Your comments do not
have to be favorable, but try to make them helpful.  (4-20-2002)

Answers to my Evolutionist Friends
Proofs of Evolution Examined
by Thomas F. Heinze

 The theory of evolution gave credibility to atheism because it seemed to provide a scientific foundation which atheism had lacked. Before the theory most people believed that God had created. Many really wanted to believe that there was no God, but it was difficult to be a convinced atheist with no logical explanation at all for matter and life. Where did they come from? Evolution was embraced by many because it provided an explanation: a bridge they could cross over into what seemed to be a fuller understanding of the life that surrounded them without having to involve a Creator. The bridge of evolution was erected on a number of seemingly sturdy pillars of scientific knowledge, each one of which inspired faith in the whole theory.

In the intervening years, a lot of water has washed over these pillars and swept them all away! The shaky old bridge still stands as a religious or philosophical belief system to be clung to by faith, but the seemingly compelling "scientific proofs" which once gave the theory of evolution its credibility have been proven false by subsequent discoveries. This has not been the tragedy to the theory of evolution that one might think. The reason?

--   During the time when it really seemed scientific, the theory attained the status of the sacred religious/scientific tradition taught almost exclusively in the world's schools.

-- The pillars were not all swept away at the same time, so new ideas replaced the old. In this way there was always something an evolutionist could believe in.

As we look back now, though, we see that virtually every evidence which brought people to believe in evolution was based on false facts. As you will see, many of the facts which have long been known to be false are still found in many of today's school books.

The pillars

What are the false ideas that herded people into the evolutionist fold, the pillars that upheld the theory which were swept away by later scientific discoveries?

--   Each evolutionary step moves ahead from a previous step. Go back far enough, and you run out of previous steps.
--   Spontaneous generation: Given the right environment, life just comes about from chemicals.
--   A cell so simple it could happen by chance.
--   The inheritance of acquired traits.
--   Normal variations between individuals chosen by natural selection were the principle mechanism of evolution.
--   Missing links exist. They will soon be found.
--   Evolution happens today. The peppered moths were dark colored and changed to light.
--   The many vestigial organs proved evolution to be true.
--   Comparative anatomy is evidence for evolution.
--   Embryology: The embryo in the womb retraces the stages of its previous evolution.
--   Uniformitarian Geology: Erosion, and sedimentation have always taken place at more or less the same rate as is average today. It was believed that great floods and other events that would deposit many layers of sediment in a short time had not happened.



TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: atheism; creationismbible; crevolist; darwin; evolution; pointless; religion
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To: SkyRat
See what I mean?
61 posted on 08/08/2002 7:45:02 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: f.Christian
to quote your buddy medved:

God hates IDIOTS, too!

Stay away from me. Logic and reason is lost to you. Adress your messages to someone who can tolerate it. I try to stay far away from idiots. I'm pretty sure there is a big, nasty suprise in store for all the idiots in the world. Imagine it as a big divine hammer from the sky. Think about your time on freerepublic when it happens.

You live and learn. Or you don't live long.
Lazarus Long
62 posted on 08/08/2002 7:51:31 AM PDT by SkyRat
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To: PatrickHenry
"Total Only evolution"...

"find the creator via evolution"---

prior to Darwin doesn't know if science existed...

evo/snow blindness---burnout!

and...thinks---he's Galilee Galileo--Napolean--or SOMETHING(marx/lenin/stalin)!

63 posted on 08/08/2002 7:51:49 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: SkyRat
a big divine hammer from the sky.

evo--commie--soviet hammer!

64 posted on 08/08/2002 7:53:57 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Phaedrus
What you forget to mention, Patrick, is that you are the original "List-O-Links" spammer. Live with the consequences.

My "List-O-Links" hasn't been posted for well over a year. It's been superseded by one link, where all the evolution-creationism material is collected in one convenient place. The Ultimate Creation vs. Evolution Resource [ver 18].

We've been urging medved to do the same for his essays and links, so that these threads (and Jim Robinson's resources) aren't unnecessarily clogged with postings of endless duplicates of the same old material, but he just keeps on spamming. So he will have to "live with the consequences."

65 posted on 08/08/2002 7:59:35 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
What a waste of a thread. Might as well title it "Calling all looneys!"

Oh, weeeeell, too bad you can't post that picture anymore.

66 posted on 08/08/2002 7:59:54 AM PDT by balrog666
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To: PatrickHenry
Yes, indeed. But it is amusing to watch sometimes. If those guys ever organize a real life meetig I'm pretty sure the theme of the evening is gonna be: "We put the 'fun' in 'fundamentalism." or something simliar.

"Unlearned views... are, perhaps, the more confident in proportion as they are less enlightened."
Thomas Jefferson
67 posted on 08/08/2002 8:00:29 AM PDT by SkyRat
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To: f.Christian
evo--commie--soviet hammer!

My daddy can beat your daddy
68 posted on 08/08/2002 8:02:12 AM PDT by SkyRat
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To: SkyRat
evo/snow blindness---burnout/madness!

69 posted on 08/08/2002 8:03:57 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
This has gone far enough. If you want to continue the childish name calling, go on. You just prove my point. Find someone who enjoys it but you wont get a response from me anymore.

Vescere bracis meis
70 posted on 08/08/2002 8:08:38 AM PDT by SkyRat
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To: f.Christian
--JIHAD--INTOLERANCE/TYRANNY...against God--man--society/SCIENCE!!

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Only lead foil can save us now...

if you don't want your brain/family sterilized---

the shield between state and TALIBAN--religion(evolution/atheism) is gone...

this is... chernobyl---radiation poisoning...

NUCLEAR SOCIAL----ALIEN ANTARTICA/AMERICA!!

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Changing--morphing words-meaning-reality...

the CONSTITUTION via your 'logic-reason' to your fantasy-bias world-bs/IDEOLOGY---LIBERALISM/EVOLUTION is called psychosis!

71 posted on 08/08/2002 8:11:25 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: MedicalMess
I got a pill and you got a God. My pill will beat your prayer to God 99.999% of the time.

No, it won't

72 posted on 08/08/2002 8:15:48 AM PDT by billbears
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To: PatrickHenry
My "List-O-Links" hasn't been posted for well over a year. It's been superseded by one link ...

So you do remember. Do you also remember that your list was devoted almost solely to bashing Creationists, which has nothing whatever to do with the truth or efficacy of Evolution?

73 posted on 08/08/2002 8:16:44 AM PDT by Phaedrus
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To: SkyRat
I'm so delighted you've been discovered. Perhaps they'll post to you all day and leave me alone for a while. They need a new "Great Satan" to harass, and I've been a favorite addressee of their posts for quite a while now. A bit of advice: If you put them on "virtual ignore," you'll save a lot of energy.
74 posted on 08/08/2002 8:17:56 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
Virtual ignore...reality---logic!
75 posted on 08/08/2002 8:20:27 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: PatrickHenry
To: Dimensio

As I see it, evolution is an ideological doctrine. If it were only a "scientific theory", it would have died a natural death 50 - 70 years ago; the evidence against it is too overwhelming and has been all along. The people defending it are doing so because they do not like the alternatives to an atheistic basis for science and do not like the logical implications of abandoning their atheistic paradigm and, in conducting themselves that way, they have achieved a degree of immunity to what most people call logic.


488 posted on 7/29/02 5:18 AM Pacific by medved


76 posted on 08/08/2002 8:23:35 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Phaedrus
Do you also remember that your list was devoted almost solely to bashing Creationists, which has nothing whatever to do with the truth or efficacy of Evolution?

It was about half-and-half. I linked to Darwin's works on line, to evidence in support of evolution, and also to rebuttals of "scientific creationism." I also had links to popular creationist sites. It's all preserved in the one link I provided above.

77 posted on 08/08/2002 8:23:56 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: f.Christian
evo/snow blindness---burnout/madness!

Why don't you give it a rest and lurk for a while, fChristian? At times, you skate very close to ad hominem attack, which we do not need.

78 posted on 08/08/2002 8:26:39 AM PDT by Phaedrus
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To: Phaedrus
Did you come here expecting to have a tea party with these evo whacks--DEVILS?
79 posted on 08/08/2002 8:30:38 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: SkyRat
Some of us consider then our best allies. Own goal scoring, you know.
80 posted on 08/08/2002 8:32:58 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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