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Slay the AOL Monster
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | August 2, 2K2 | Robert Locke

Posted on 08/02/2002 6:48:21 AM PDT by rdb3

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Admins, I could have been beaten to the punch on posting this. If so, detonate this one with glee!
1 posted on 08/02/2002 6:48:21 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: rdb3
AOL is a crappy service and its parent is corporate scum.
2 posted on 08/02/2002 6:52:51 AM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: All
Conservatives have a unique opportunity now with the Internet to end that monopoly, but we must seize the opportunity on our own initiative. The underlying trend is in our favor, but will not be properly realized without deliberate effort on our part.

This is why JimRob's mug will appear on the Cyber-Conservative Mount Rushmore! Or is that Mount Binary-more?

Anyway, fuhgedaboudit. You know what I mean.

3 posted on 08/02/2002 6:53:21 AM PDT by rdb3
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Dumped AOL 4 months ago when they decided to have a hey-dey with my checking account to the point where they nearly drained my account. To make a long story short, I disputed & won the case. It was a pain-in-the a$$. AOL is very corrupt to say the least.
4 posted on 08/02/2002 7:05:27 AM PDT by 4America
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It sure is.
5 posted on 08/02/2002 7:21:14 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: rdb3
LOL!
6 posted on 08/02/2002 7:28:57 AM PDT by 4America
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I fought them for a year and only got half of the money they siphoned from my bank account for charges on a "free trial period". They have yet top return the other half despite numerous faxes and waiting (watching paint dry) for them to take me off hold, only to be told that I had contacted the wrong department and need to go on another department's "perpetual hold" Queue.
7 posted on 08/02/2002 7:29:03 AM PDT by capt. norm
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I've wanted to get rid of AOL for a couple years now for numerous reasons. Thanks for giving me the final push I needed. I think if you talk to most people who have AOL, they'll say they hate it. People like myself who signed up for it 5 or 6 years ago did so because it was what what everybody was doing.
8 posted on 08/02/2002 7:29:56 AM PDT by itssoamusing
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That's what they do! 20 different numbers & Departments for 20 different reasons. It's all a great big scam & II cannot wait to see them go under!
9 posted on 08/02/2002 7:31:51 AM PDT by 4America
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The funny thing is AOL has been hemorrhaging long before Robert Locke pushed a boycott. Its the weakest link in the Time Warner empire and I wouldn't be surprised if its eventually allowed to go under. In time we could even see a conservative ISP spring up to replace it. Ka chink. There goes another part of Ted Turner's dreams to rule the world along with CNN.
10 posted on 08/02/2002 7:36:56 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: rdb3
Bump!
11 posted on 08/02/2002 7:37:02 AM PDT by Perseverando
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BOYCOTT AOL BUMP!!!!
12 posted on 08/02/2002 7:48:12 AM PDT by Red Jones
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BTTT!

Very important article. Does somebody have a list of nationwide ISP's who are politically conservative, or, at least, apolitical?

13 posted on 08/02/2002 8:08:48 AM PDT by white trash redneck
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I don't know but Jim Rob could start an FR ISP and move the FR website to its servers. And member revenues from the ISP would obviatiate the need for quarterly telethons to keep this site going. The question is if any one's interested in a conservative ISP to challenge the AOL behemoth.
14 posted on 08/02/2002 8:12:08 AM PDT by goldstategop
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I'd even go a step farther.

Not just ISP's, but most 'Big Software' is run by flaming collectivists. Ellison, Jobs, Gates . . . all want total control of the software world, including the internet.

I blame the current laws of incorporation.

All major US "businesses" are collectively-owned, collectively-managed 'umbrella' organizations run by unaccountable people who are protected from prosecution of most illegal acts they might order. Being an old-fashioned 'sole proprietor' -- an entrepeneur -- puts you at a major disadvantage in modern America. We have laws that favor collectives.

These collectives already run things, as everyone knows. Is it too late? Have the collectivists won?

I think not. Guns gave individuals a power to defend themselves like never before, and the internet gives individuals the power to defend themselves and their freedom like never before.

Of course, if the DMCA/Palladium/etc manage to destroy the Internet as we know it, then all bets are off . . .

15 posted on 08/02/2002 8:19:59 AM PDT by Dominic Harr
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Sign me up!!!

TXnMA (No Longer!!!)

16 posted on 08/02/2002 8:24:46 AM PDT by TXnMA
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To: white trash redneck; jimrob; All
Bump, WTR, I have never seen such a list, but I would also like to see this info.

My ISP is Earthlink (the 3rd? largest isp in the US), which is delivered on high speed television cable. I don't know what their politics are. Checked their executives' bios, but couldn't really get a feel for their politics. I like earthlink, because it is "real internet". No popup ads, no automatic kickoffs due to inactivity. Unfortunately, because of the future dominance of high-speed cable and dsl technologies, I think the days of the smaller mom & pop isp's are ending.

I have never used AOL, and I discourage its use to anyone who asks me about it. I used a free month of MSN back in the mid-90's, but dumped it when I found out that it wouldn't support remote X-window clients under Linux (and other things that "real" internet should support).

A note for the not-so-technical... AOL and MSN are not "real internet". They do provide a "portal" to the internet, but the connections are "proprietary". For example, you cannot use a generic email program or a generic web browser with AOL. (Always makes me wonder why they bought Netscape.) Why is this important? It is about control. These companies do not follow standards, because standards give the user choices. And, one of those choices may be to switch to a different internet provider. :-) They want to prevent this, and proprietary (nonstandard) extensions helps keep their client base attached.

I am sure that there are plenty of AOL and MSN users on FR, so I don't want to step on any toes here. But my humble opinion on internet access: Stick with a company which provides "real" internet. Although the number of companies offering this type of connection is shrinking because of consolidations, they follow standards. The mechanics of one is identical to that of another. And switching from one to another is rather painless. Also, get a permanent email address (which you can keep regardless of who your isp is). This general approach will support "user freedom", which is as conservative a concept as I can imagine.

Also, a note to JimRob if you're reading this thread: I couldn't help but think of the great work you have done while I was reading this article. Does anybody think that AOL or MSN could have (or would have) built such a community? I think not. Great job.

17 posted on 08/02/2002 9:57:14 AM PDT by TheEngineer
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I use their promotional disks for drink coasters. But, that's as far as I get to AOL.

A. (ain't) O. (on) L (line)

I wonder how Steve case is doing now that his two puppies, WorldCon & AOL are being trashed? Oh, didn't you know Steve Case sits on the B.O.D's at WCOM? He sure does!

18 posted on 08/02/2002 11:35:08 AM PDT by jumpstartme
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No, I didn't know that. Interesting.
19 posted on 08/02/2002 11:35:55 AM PDT by rdb3
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It'll be real interesting if the feds bring a case against WorldCon as a company.

AOL has relied on WorldCom's Internet backbone since their inception. (UUNET, MCI)...

It makes the BOD relationship very interesting indeed...
20 posted on 08/02/2002 11:38:49 AM PDT by jumpstartme
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