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To rescue marriage, address divorce
DenverPost.com ^ | July 31, 2002 | Al Knight

Posted on 08/01/2002 11:41:08 PM PDT by RogerFGay

To rescue marriage, address divorce

The federal government has recently claimed an interest in encouraging marriage on the grounds that children who are raised in a two-parent home seem to do better emotionally, intellectually and socially than those who are not.

There are a number of reasons, however, why marriage won't become more attractive until the rules and regulations pertaining to divorce are revised. The administration will have little success with one until it properly considers the other.

The White House has chosen to emphasize the advantages of marriage in a kind of splendid isolation. In its proposal to reauthorize and strengthen the 1996 Welfare Reform Act, the Bush administration points out that children reared in a two-parent family are more likely to complete high school and are less likely to be poor, commit crimes or have mental health problems.

That may be completely true, but if the benefits for both parents and children are so obvious, why aren't men and women across America rushing to the altar?

The reason, which is is rarely cited either by the government or anyone else, is that being married and having children has become risky business. Although the rate at which people marry is at or near historic lows, the divorce rate is unchanged, hovering around 50 percent. Half of all first marriages end in divorce. The rate for second and third marriages is higher.

These facts are impossible to hide and it is thus very likely that many young men now considering marriage and raising a family will opt not to do so because they instinctively recognize that the risks outweigh the benefits.

Family courts across the country have contributed mightily to reinforcing the fears that surround marriage and child rearing. Aided by state laws that require decisions to be based on the so-called best interests of the child" standard, judges routinely award custody of children to the divorcing mother. In many states, the breakup of marriages with children means that mothers are about nine times as likely as fathers to be awarded primary custody. For most men, divorce simply means a long-term child-support obligation and limited opportunities for seeing their children.

It's no wonder, then, that men may be avoiding marriage.

A recent article in the Philadelphia Inquirer by Glenn Sacks and Dianne Thompson speculated that there is, in fact, an ongoing marriage strike. Men, they said, are behaving like Peter Pan. They refuse to commit, refuse to settle down and refuse to grow up." The authors of this piece quote a 31-year-old man who said, Why should I get married and have kids when I could lose those kids and most of what I've worked for at a moment's notice? I've seen it happen to many of my friends. I know guys who came home one day to an empty house or apartment, wife gone, kids gone. They never saw it coming. Some of them were never able to see their kids regularly again."

What has been proposed in a number of states, including Colorado, is a law that would establish a presumption where, when a marriage with children breaks up, that the parents should share the resulting responsibilities equally. Other reforms have included lawsuits. One such lawsuit in Colorado directly challenges the best interests of the child" standard on equal-protection grounds because the standard so often favors the mother.

Meanwhile, a number of states have taken smaller steps to address a perceived inequity in the enforcement of the divorce laws. In Montana, for example, it is no longer possible for a judge in a custody action to simply declare custody on the basis of the "best interests of the child." He or she must make specific findings of fact.

These steps, by themselves, won't be enough to alter the culture or make marriage more attractive. What would help is for federal and state officials to take notice of the fact that one of the reasons men are running from marriage is because they are also running from the legal beating they will take if they marry, have children and later divorce.

Al Knight (alknight@mindspring.com) ) is a member of the Denver Post editorial board. His column appears Wednesday and Sunday.


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Comment #41 Removed by Moderator

To: FITZ
That's why I disagree with Bush's plan of getting government involved in the marriage problem because when government got involved the problem was created. Paying single mothers to marry will only create problems,

"Yep. This must be an election year. In a July 15 press release Chairman of the House Policy Committee Chairman Christopher Cox (R-CA) and Barbara Boxer (D-CA) announced yet another bill to encourage divorce and out-of-wedlock births."

The Child Support Agenda

42 posted on 08/03/2002 9:01:17 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: Motherbear
Growing up, no one was divorced in my family --not one aunt or uncle and there were many. It was almost unheard of in my neighborhood and when it happened it was usually the man leaving his wife and kids for another woman, she would be ostracized --and he of course was and they'd both leave the neighborhood never to be heard from again.
44 posted on 08/03/2002 9:03:43 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Jeff Chandler
So, on the one hand, he gets what he wants out of the relationship without giving her what she wants,

You're assuming that women aren't seeking the same thing as men. What if all they want is sex?

46 posted on 08/03/2002 9:09:30 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Motherbear
Yes and both their families are there smiling proudly, celebrating the new marriage and in the past they would have all been ashamed for them.
47 posted on 08/03/2002 9:10:20 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Motherbear
It's interesting because there was even a time when society disapproved of Hollywood and other celebrity divorce and today we don't find it at all shocking how cheaply and immoral they all live. Julia Roberts' many divorces and engagements and Jennifer Lopez's very short term marriages are just considered part of the glamour.
48 posted on 08/03/2002 9:15:30 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Jeff Chandler

Is this you?

49 posted on 08/03/2002 9:15:35 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: RogerFGay
thanks for keeping us informed on this issue, and I think you're the fellow who did that great research at ASU.

A fellow I know was recently put behind bars at Indiana state prison because he's 45 grand behind in child support. But the divorce occurred 15 years ago, his kids are 19 & 21, in college, the first wife who has custody of them makes 200 grand a year, the guy's been unable to work due to back problems. His new family lost its' dad. Another friend of mine is also having trouble with the state of Indiana, she had a divorce about 3 years ago, her husband got custody of the kid, now she has to pay 200 a month in child support, but he makes 50 grand a year, the kid lives in a great house with his real dad and new stepmom, my friend is working at dairy queen and having difficultysupporting just herself. The state of indiana says if she doesn't catch up on that 200 a month, then she's headed for jail. The whole thing is insanity.

No parent should both have the kid taken away from them against their will and money taken away from them also against their will to support a child. If people want a divorce, then great, give them a divorce, but don't give them the kids and the ex's money also.

50 posted on 08/03/2002 9:22:43 AM PDT by Red Jones
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To: RogerFGay
by a large margin, women leave marriages today much more frequently than men. Men having affairs is way down the list of reasons. Women leave marriage because it becomes less interesting, less exciting over time. A couple of looks at him in the morning before he's shaved and had a cup of coffee, and an evening with him in his t-shirt in the living room -- and it's over. Oh and don't even mention the fact that she doesn't feel as sexy as she did before the children were born.

i will not argue with you. you apparently have done a lot of research in this area. nonetheless, it does not matter which of the genders is more likely to leave. when god is part of a marriage, it has a much higher probability of lasting, "until death..."

51 posted on 08/03/2002 9:33:08 AM PDT by mlocher
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To: Red Jones
thanks for keeping us informed on this issue, and I think you're the fellow who did that great research at ASU.

Oh how I'd love to take credit for Sanford Braver's research. Some of my own corresponding research confirms his, but he mostly dealt with issues that I did not focus on directly and therefore haven't written much about. In other words, I can tell you confidently that his research is excellent and anybody who wants to know the truth about the subject he covers needs to buy his book. Other than that, I'm just the guy who did the under-appreciated work at PICSLT. I'm also a contributing editor for Fathering Magazine and a regular columnist for Men's News Daily.
52 posted on 08/03/2002 9:39:42 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: mlocher
i will not argue with you. you apparently have done a lot of research in this area. nonetheless, it does not matter which of the genders is more likely to leave. when god is part of a marriage, it has a much higher probability of lasting, "until death..."

That's a question that I have not researched scientifically but I believe you. The fact is that many of these questions didn't really need much research 25 years ago when people were wiser. I'm not joking. Much of the really good research is merely being done to counter the effects of extremist political agendas and propaganda that's taken hold in the last quarter century.
53 posted on 08/03/2002 9:45:06 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: FITZ
It's interesting because there was even a time when society disapproved of Hollywood and other celebrity divorce and today we don't find it at all shocking how cheaply and immoral they all live. Julia Roberts' many divorces and engagements and Jennifer Lopez's very short term marriages are just considered part of the glamour.

For many of us, nothing has changed in this regard. We still don't care what the celebs are doing with their private lives.
54 posted on 08/03/2002 9:47:12 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: FITZ
Growing up, no one was divorced in my family --not one aunt or uncle and there were many.

You hit on an important phrase -- "growing up." I don't think as many people do that today as they used to. People seem to take remaining perpetually young for granted. I mean that I don't see much awareness of what growing up is.
55 posted on 08/03/2002 9:49:45 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
Much of the really good research is merely being done to counter the effects of extremist political agendas and propaganda that's taken hold in the last quarter century.

i agree 100%, but much poor research is being done to support those same extremist political agendas and propaganda.

56 posted on 08/03/2002 10:10:14 AM PDT by mlocher
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To: mlocher
i agree 100%, but much poor research is being done to support those same extremist political agendas and propaganda.

I agree 100%. I even write about some of them and their extremist agenda and propaganda.
57 posted on 08/03/2002 10:15:27 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
You're assuming that women aren't seeking the same thing as men. What if all they want is sex?

I'm not assuming anything. I know that women have been encouraged by the leftist media and academia to behave like men, but that in doing so they are going against their very natures. All you have to do is follow up on their behavior. The men get what they want and that's that, while the women attempt to persue the realtionship further. I see it time after time. Sure, watch enough MTV and she'll believe that casual sex is natural, but deep sown inside it's the rare woman who is primarily interested in sex. I'll repeat this once-obvious fact:

MEN AND WOMEN ARE DIFFERENT.

Some guy even got rich writing a book about it. I think it's titled Men are from Mars, Let's Get Liquored-up, Go to Venus, and Get Some

58 posted on 08/03/2002 11:45:52 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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To: Jeff Chandler
sown = down
59 posted on 08/03/2002 11:47:27 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
What makes you think I look like a tripod?
60 posted on 08/03/2002 12:06:16 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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