How Shall Africa Be Saved?

Oregon Magazine ^ | August 1, 2002 | Larry Leonard

[WaterDragon]

Thanks for this comment about Wade! He is truly a voice of sanity in Africa. The thing is, the leadership is there, but the West has been throwing money at tin-pot despots. That really began during the Cold War, for good reasons. Those reasons no longer exist, and Bush is right to say our attitude and behavior toward Africa has to change.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

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[backhoe]

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[WaterDragon]

Those are good links, backhoe...thanks.

[backhoe]

Thanks, I wish we could get everyone to fully use all those bump lists to see how much of "the rest of the story" they have not been told by the Jackal Pack Media of this country.

[EBUCK]

You see, the words of Mr Ayittey are true. Truth is death to liberals. Fletcher and Suarez know that if Mr. Ayittey’s advice is followed, sensible reforms will take place in Africa. People will have enough to eat, behavior that encourages AIDS will be discouraged, the Christian religion, Africa’s largest, will be allowed to flourish, mass slaughters of whites will cease, children will live in peaceful, prosperous villages and have the opportunity to get an education. Worst of all, socialism will be gone from the land.

God forbid that a tragedy of those proportions should be allowed.

A tragedy indeed. We wouldn't want those poor africans exposed to a system that actually allows for them to live without subsidy!!!

EBUCK

[Aric2000]

My vote would be for them to go to H#$$ in their own filth. Africa is ruined, let them do whatever it is they are going to do. Either they want to survive or they don't. Survival of the fittest as far as I am concerned. Darwinism to the extreme.

The despots and their countries will disapear, and the free market countries will prosper. End of story, and the free market countries will move into the collapsed countries and then they will flourish. I say let it happen. And for us to stay the heck out of it.

[Democratic_Machiavelli]

Thanks for the ping. Excellent article and links!

[WaterDragon]

Thanks, Machiavelli! (I love writing your name!)

[wardaddy]

Yep the Indian sub-continent is a real success story. That's why so many are flocking here.

[WaterDragon]

Mr. Ayittey (quoted in the article)agrees with you, Aric, that no more money should be sent to Africa.

It is, in fact, the money the West sends to Africa that is keeping the people there oppressed and impoverished.

[wardaddy]

Africa is going to return to it's pre-colonization roots and a lot of people are going to die. And there is not much we can do about it even if we wished. We can help try and care for the epidemics and broker peace deals between warring tribes and even send food but the die is already cast.

[RJS1950]

None! No moral obligation. This same question was asked 32 years ago in a college biology class. I an a small minority (all male) said that the western world should do nothing, that these people had refused to adopt western farming methods because it would mean abandoning the traditional ways, they refused to change their eating habits because of the same cultural or religios taboos, and they refused to change their corrupt governments which in the main were responsible for a lot of the misery. We said that if they were willing to die for their religious or political beliefs even though alternatives were at hand, then let them die. We caught all kinds of hell from the other students, but history has proved us right, helping them 30+ years ago saved a very few, who grew up to continue the cycle today. Let them kill themselves off, it's their "tradition" and it would seem their destiny.

[gcruse]

How was America saved? By hard work, revolution, and the undergirding principles of western civilization. I think the Africans should be able to figure out how to do it, too. I understand there are a lot of books. Maybe if they read a few of Adam Smith's and threw away the primers for failed systems, such as Marxism. You don't become a concert pianist by studying phrenology.

[WaterDragon]

But it isn't the African citizens who go for Marxism...it's the tin-pot tyrants, as usual. The African citizens were indeed learning modern methods of farming from the White farmers, and some had their own farms. Those farms were seized as well, and blacks who worked for the White farmers were terrorized as well as the White farm families

The blacks who are now destroying the seized farms are thugs in Mugabe's army. They were never farmers, had no interest in farming, only killing and looting.

These are very different people from the average black Zimbabwean .

[Fzob]

and kept in office a monstrous dictator who supported the rape of the nation's agricultural community.

It seems Marxism is alive and well.

[WaterDragon]

I've thought so too, but a number of former Marxists are saying it is dying fast. There's a book out this year- "Heaven On Earth" - that gives the history of socialism/liberalism/Marxism/Communism, and shows that it is actually on its dying legs. About the only place it is really alive is Cuba and North Korea, and in Africa...which elicits more indifference than anything else from the world.

[MissAmericanPie]

It's time to step back and let Mother Nature deal with Africa.

[gcruse]

 
But it isn't the African citizens who go for
Marxism...it's the tin-pot tyrants, as usual.

We couldn't go our own way until we
got rid of  'tyranny,' either, and King
George wasn't tin-pot.  That's why
they have revolutions.

[Fzob]

I hope your right about Marxism being on it last legs. There are so many Marxist out there (at least the non practicing type) that I fear it will never really ever die.

As far as Africa goes, IMO much of the butchery and mayhem that we see today is a direct result of Marxist influence from the last 50 years.