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Man Tried for Friend's Drunkenness
Yahoo News ^ | 07/30/02 | JOHN CURRAN

Posted on 07/31/2002 5:47:13 PM PDT by Libloather

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Liberteens ain't prepared for this...
1 posted on 07/31/2002 5:47:13 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
Sure they are. And so should conservatives be prepared for this answer:

Mr. Pangle himself was responsible for this accident. He alone was driving that car.

You can bet your ass that had Mr. Pangle survived the accident, he would be the one being prosecuted. The fact that he died necessitated the requirement to find another perpretrator. Absent the loaning of the vehicle, our friends in the law rackets would have attempted to hang this on some other entity, such as the maker of the vehicle involved.

2 posted on 07/31/2002 6:01:39 PM PDT by yooper
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Not only did the police return the keys to the guys they arrested - they actually gave him the directions to find where his vehicle was parked.

His BAC reading was .26 following the fatal accident - what was it when he was originally arrested and when he was released to the friend???? Isn't there a possibility he stopped somewhere andhad a few more belts between the time he got back in his car and the time he wrecked??

I am not defending drunk driving, I'm generally pro-police, and I'm not a conspiracy theorist - but I think the friend is the least guilty of anyone here.

Something is missing from this whole story.

3 posted on 07/31/2002 6:09:12 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: Libloather
O'Reilly covered this story on his show tonight. I think the cops screwed up and this guy should be cleared.
4 posted on 07/31/2002 6:09:51 PM PDT by blam
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To: yooper
Absent the loaning of the vehicle, our friends in the law rackets would have attempted to hang this on some other entity, such as the maker of the vehicle involved.

Don't forget to sue the brewers/distillers, whatever. And the poor slob who owns the bar.

5 posted on 07/31/2002 6:10:55 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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Mr. Pangle himself was responsible for this accident.

Apparently not. A Liberteen pal of yours, AdamSelene235, said,"But as long as loons don't harm anyone or threaten anyone, I think they should be left alone."

Isn't a drunk driver a threat? And isn't the one getting him or seeing him becoming drunk more responsible than the drunk driver?

6 posted on 07/31/2002 6:18:22 PM PDT by Libloather
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Well, libloather, it's the libertine Conservatives who are the drunken bums around here, willing to make marijuana illegal but so attached to their Heinekens that they are afraid to follow their own logic and have alcohol banned. Isn't the real problem in this story that righteous Conservatives failed to ban all alcohol consumption, which would have saved everyone?

And would a libertarian policeman have been more likely to set the drunk free, knowing he would be on public thoroughfairs threatening innocent bystanders? Drink all you want in your home, but not on the road.

7 posted on 07/31/2002 6:19:58 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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Isn't a drunk driver a threat? And isn't the one getting him or seeing him becoming drunk more responsible than the drunk driver?

The problem is that a drunk person is by definition incapable of making appropriate decisions about his behavior.

Perhaps the silliest thing about the whole "drunk driving" idea is the theory that someone will drive somewhere, get blasted and then be clearheaded enought to decide whether he should drive home.

Personally, if I plan to drink, I take a cab to the bar or party. Then I have no choice but to take one home or catch a ride.

8 posted on 07/31/2002 6:23:31 PM PDT by Restorer
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"or threaten anyone"

How is having a .26 alcohol level NOT a threat? Why don't you just admit you don't have a clue what libertarian thought is about, since there is logic involved.

9 posted on 07/31/2002 6:24:14 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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Why don't you just admit you don't have a clue what libertarian thought is about, since there is logic involved.

Oh, Bubbaloo, you have soooooo much to learn. How old are you?

10 posted on 07/31/2002 6:35:37 PM PDT by Libloather
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How old are you?
12 posted on 07/31/2002 6:50:50 PM PDT by Libloather
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Holding Powell accountable would allow the prosecution of toll takers, gas station attendants and anyone else who encounters a drunken driver and fails to stop him from driving, defense attorney Carl Roeder said.

He said it was wrong to hold Powell accountable when State Police had implicitly given their approval by releasing him and giving him his keys back.

According to this logic the State Police should be on trial. The only one guilty here is the drunk guy. I live in Salem County and would love to know which prosecutor thought this nonsense up.

13 posted on 07/31/2002 6:51:58 PM PDT by Fzob
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To: Libloather
Who is at fault here?

How about the police who release him and the drunk fool himself.

No one else.
14 posted on 07/31/2002 7:00:05 PM PDT by In Search of Freedom
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To: In Search of Freedom
...and the drunk fool himself.

Is the "drunk fool" responsible for what he does?

(Liberteens, pay close attention...)

16 posted on 07/31/2002 7:04:53 PM PDT by Libloather
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One ought to take responsibility for ones actions, not always blame others.

We had a case here, at an office party some lady drank too much, her boss offered to call a cab for her, she turned the offer down, drove to a bar and had a few more drinks...... the boss was held responsible to the tune of a quarter of a million bucks.

17 posted on 07/31/2002 7:06:46 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: shigure
Well, I don't play that game.

To the underaged, please back away from the table...

18 posted on 07/31/2002 7:07:55 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Restorer
The problem is that a drunk person is by definition incapable of making appropriate decisions about his behavior.

No one forced him to get drunk.

19 posted on 07/31/2002 7:09:27 PM PDT by Great Dane
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A 40-year-old laborer is on trial in New Jersey in a groundbreaking case experts say could clear the way for the prosecution of anyone who lets a drunken driver get behind the wheel.

Prosecute everyone! Everyone everywhere! Somehow everyone is responsible for everything everyone else is doing! I, myself, am responsible for the Ted Bundy murders!

Good God.

20 posted on 07/31/2002 7:13:25 PM PDT by Jonathon Spectre
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