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Immigrants found in another rig near San Antonio
WFAA-TV ^ | 07-31-2002 | AP

Posted on 07/31/2002 5:29:44 PM PDT by Brownie74

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To: Brownie74; janetgreen; Reaganwuzthebest
I don't want to be an alarmist, but I can't help considering the consequences of our out-of-control immigration policy and open borders.

If every terrorist that has crossed our borders illegally or come in on an Express Visa gets it into his head to kill 10 Americans (LAX style), we could have a real nightmare scenario.
21 posted on 07/31/2002 7:19:47 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: 4America
42 more days to 9/11.
22 posted on 07/31/2002 7:22:07 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
They're going to have to cover the back of these trucks with a big tuna net before they open the doors.

Actually, that's a very good idea and it shpould be SOP.

23 posted on 07/31/2002 7:31:39 PM PDT by piasa
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To: 4Freedom
42 more days to 9/11.

Excellent point.

24 posted on 07/31/2002 7:34:36 PM PDT by Brownie74
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To: piasa
Thank you very much. All I want in return is the tuna net concession at the border truck stops.

LOL!
25 posted on 07/31/2002 7:34:37 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: Brownie74; 4Freedom; Tancredo Fan; MeeknMing; sarcasm; 4America; dennisw; MissAmericanPie; ...
Hospitals: Illegal immigrants costly

By Julia Malone, Palm Beach Post Washington Bureau Tuesday, July 30, 2002

WASHINGTON -- In Phoenix, some emergency rooms have shut down or reduced services. In Texas, hospitals have passed along higher costs to local taxpayers. And in Florida, a Martin County hospital is stuck with nearly $1.5 million in unpaid expenses for just two patients.

Those are some of the effects hospitals trace to illegal immigrants, who arrive at their facilities with serious illnesses and no means to pay for care.

"It goes into the millions of dollars -- possibly billions," said Carla Luggiero, a Washington lobbyist for the American Hospital Association. Even so, she said that hospitals have no exact count of the cost because they do not collect data on the legal status of patients.

Under federal law, hospitals are required to provide care to anyone who shows up with a life-threatening condition, regardless of ability to pay or legal status. If the patient is an illegal immigrant, the U.S. government provides only limited reimbursement.

Amid growing "uncompensated" costs to hospitals, the National Association of Counties recently conducted a survey of 42 counties, and 29 cited recent immigration, legal and illegal, as one reason.

The problem, once concentrated in border states like Texas and California, is now expanding, Luggiero said. She said that it has spread to New York, Illinois, North Carolina and, especially, to Florida.

Florida has come into the spotlight in part because of cases such as Luis Alberto Jimenez, a 30-year-old Guatemalan who sustained a brain injury two years ago in an automobile accident.

Jimenez, an illegal immigrant with no money and no local family, has spent the last two years living at Martin Memorial Hospital in Stuart. Caring for him has cost more than $900,000 so far, and the bill goes up $500 each day, said Patricia Austin, the hospital's spokeswoman.

Martin Memorial has found a rehab facility in Guatemala that is willing to take Jimenez, but the hospital is still negotiating with the patient's court-appointed attorney, who has resisted the move. If an agreement is reached, the hospital will still have to send a nurse to accompany him on the trip, Austin said.

Michael Banks, Jimenez's attorney, says nothing has changed. "The ball is in the hospital's court," he said Monday.

He has asked the hospital to put Jimenez in a rehabilitation center in the United States, which he claims would be 10 times cheaper than keeping him in the hospital room.

He contends the government facilities in Guatemala are not capable of providing the quality of care his client needs, but there are private facilities in that country that would qualify.

Earlier, a 57-year-old Jamaican spent 17 months at the same hospital, running up a bill of about $500,000. He was sent to a facility in his home country.

The two cases combined took a big bite out of the hospital's charitable fund, which was budgeted at $29 million last year.

St. Mary's Medical Center in West Palm Beach treats one or two illegal immigrants a week. "It is a significant problem," said St. Mary's spokesman Don Chester. He said illegal immigrants run up thousands of dollars in bills, though he could not provide specifics.

A spokeswoman for Delray Medical Center says the hospital treats about 75 illegal immigrants a month.

Martin Memorial's Austin said the local hospital communities must pick up the tab under the current setup.

"Each hospital is pretty much left to their own devices as to how to cope with this problem," Austin said. She said her hospital would deal with it by cutting costs and increasing fund-raising efforts.

Her hospital has also fought back by pressuring Rep. Mark Foley, R-West Palm Beach, to take up the issue.

Foley has study initiated Foley has taken the approach of finding out how much the health care costs and then trying to collect the fees by working with the State Department to deduct them from any foreign aid going to the home country of the alien.

Foley has not drafted any legislation. He has convinced the U.S. General Accounting Office to conduct what could be the most comprehensive study of the problem, an effort that could take several months.

That may not be easy, since hospitals as a rule don't keep track of who's an illegal resident. Ann Ward, spokeswoman for the Texas Hospital Association, said that most don't ask.

"We have a large number of folks who are undocumented," said Conchita Ruiz-Topinka, spokeswoman for Jackson Memorial Hospital in Miami. "If they can prove they live in Miami-Dade -- regardless of immigration status -- we take care of them. I don't think we know how many of the indigent we serve are undocumented."

She said that the hospital does ask if a patient is a Cuban or Haitian, since that could mean that their expenses will be underwritten by the federal refugee program. But even that has brought protests from some community groups, Ruiz-Topinka said.

Ward of the Texas Hospital Association reported a similar situation. "We don't keep track," she said. "A lot of hospitals feel that you cannot discriminate if they're not a legal resident."

Lawmakers in Congress have introduced a range of bills dealing with the problem. Sens. Jeff Bingaman, D-N.M., and John McCain, R-Ariz., recently proposed Medicaid reimbursement for some medical care, including kidney dialysis and chemotherapy as well as prenatal care for illegal residents.

Sen. John Kyl and Rep. Jim Kolbe, both Arizona Republicans, have also proposed forms of federal assistance to hard-hit border areas.

However, the legislation does not appear to be headed toward passage soon.

Post staff writers Pat Moore and Phil Galewitz contributed to this story.

26 posted on 07/31/2002 7:38:16 PM PDT by USA21
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To: USA21
These billions should be spent militarizing our borders.
27 posted on 07/31/2002 7:48:45 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: Brownie74
SAN ANTONIO - Another tractor-trailer rig filled with undocumented immigrants has turned up - this time on the eastern fringe of San Antonio.

C O R R E C T I O N

The are not undocumented imigrants. They are people trying to sneak into the country without filing the required paperwork and going before an INS officer for an entrance interview.

R E W R I T E

Another tractor-trailor rig filled with people trying to enter the United States illegally has turned up - this time on the eastern fringe of San Antonio.

28 posted on 07/31/2002 7:54:11 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: USA21
Thanks for the post. Check this out:

Hospital Probed for Immigrant Care.

29 posted on 07/31/2002 8:14:02 PM PDT by Brownie74
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To: 4Freedom
"These billions should be spent militarizing our borders."

I agree. And you'll see just how quick these lawbreakers will stop sneaking in.
30 posted on 07/31/2002 8:14:06 PM PDT by 4America
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To: 4Freedom
Opening salvo on treaty for women (Endorsement by Senate panel puts Republicans in tough spot

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31 posted on 07/31/2002 8:23:59 PM PDT by USA21
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Posting to this article is temporarily disabled.

WHY????

REASON: All articles posted prior to 9/4/01 are currently locked read-only. See Notice - Old threads temporarily locked

32 posted on 07/31/2002 8:25:58 PM PDT by USA21
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
They know those rigs are going to be loaded with illegals, and drugs as well. Either there's interior enforcement, or we will be overrun even sooner than is happening now.

We, the citizens, are going to have to be the interior enforcement once the trucks start rolling illegals all across the country. Keep your eyes open and if you see anything suspicious, pick up your cell phone and call your state police and if they don't respond keep calling until they do. Then call the local media.

33 posted on 07/31/2002 8:34:08 PM PDT by healey22
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To: Brownie74
One is being treated at a San Antonio hospital, while the other was treated at the scene and is talking to authorities. The man in custody aired an appeal for the others to come in for treatment.

Free medical treatment, free education, if your child is born here, it is automatically a citizen, they are talking about granting citizenship to thousands of illegals already here, availability of jobs, .... why don't they just tear down the border and put up billboards.

34 posted on 07/31/2002 8:45:05 PM PDT by slimer
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To: Brownie74
Bumpers ! Sorry I missed your ping until just now.
2 immigrants found dead in stifling truck - 2 Men hauling illegals face murder charges

35 posted on 08/01/2002 3:25:40 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Thanks for the link and the update. Another cottage industry involving illegal aliens has just sprung up. I don't see any end to this.
36 posted on 08/01/2002 3:39:16 AM PDT by Brownie74
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To: slimer
.... why don't they just tear down the border and put up billboards.

May I suggest this billboard!!


37 posted on 08/01/2002 3:43:40 AM PDT by Brownie74
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To: healey22
We, the citizens, are going to have to be the interior enforcement once the trucks start rolling illegals all across the country.

You are right and the police will arrest them, but the INS doesn't seem interested. What it's going to take I have no idea.

38 posted on 08/01/2002 3:36:40 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: USA21
In Los Angeles the ballot will include a "bond measure" (tax raise) to keep the county hospitals open (trauma centers). The hospitals are struggling under the burder of nonpaying customers, including illegal aliens who pack emergency rooms full. The solution that our leaders come up with is to raise taxes, of course. Another bit of good news is that we (taxpayers/homeowners) need to come up with money via property tax to build new schools because the schools are bulging at the seams, thanks to illegal immigration.

In this state the welfare recipients and the illegal aliens get treated like kings, don't have to pay for anything, and the people who work for a living have a rapidly increasing large bill to pay.

Jorge Bush thinks all of this is OK. Will I vote for him ever again? NO.

39 posted on 08/01/2002 10:22:34 PM PDT by janetgreen
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