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Former White House Drug Spokesman Bob Weiner Blasts John Stossel ABC 20-20 Report
U.S. Newswire ^ | July 31,2002

Posted on 07/31/2002 8:50:30 AM PDT by Wolfie

Former White House Drug Spokesman Bob Weiner Blasts John Stossel ABC 20-20 Report as 'Distorted, Inaccurate Excuse for Legalization'

Former White House drug policy spokesman Bob Weiner is blasting last night's ABC 20-20 drug piece by John Stossel: "It was a distorted and inaccurate excuse for drug legalization.

It blows off the successes and real reductions in use generated both by government drug policy and efforts by parents, teachers, coaches, businesses, community coalitions, religious leaders, and law enforcement."

Weiner, who was Director of Public Affairs for the White House Office of National Drug Policy May 1995-August 2001 under Drug Czars Lee Brown, Barry McCaffrey, and the Bush transition, pointed to what he calls "radical inconsistencies in Stossel's reporting. He repeatedly ignores or downplays each positive finding about drug policy."

"Stossel throws in the important data point that drug use is down by 50 percent but then says throughout the piece that use is the same and we are losing the war. He never says that crack cocaine -- the primary crime-causing drug in recent years -- is down by two-thirds. He finds one police chief who says it's all fruitless -- understandable in a particular high usage area -- but ignores and does not report the myriad of police who tell experts that crime and drugs are down because criminals and dealers are taken off the streets. He ignores the fact that the governments anti-drug media campaign the last four years has coincided with a 40 percent reduction of youth drug users and 25 percent improvement in parent anti-drug communication with youth -- huge success rates in precisely the intended target audiences.

"Stossel pushes his inaccurate points that the drug war 'creates crime' when it is precisely the opposite: drug use generates murders, domestic violence, and date rapes. He soft pedals marijuana use, with assertions by an archetypical long haired user that 'marijuana hasn't killed anyone,' but has no one pointing out that marijuana is the second leading cause of car crashes as well as the primary drug in teen drug treatment

"He has no understanding of foreign efforts, either," Weiner asserted. He quotes disputed CIA Colombia cocaine increase numbers based on their flawed, cloud-covered data despite Colombia's surveys showing significant drops in cultivation and the success of the spraying of 30 percent of its cocaine acreage. He never mentions that Peru and Bolivia obtained over 60 percent reductions and Colombias five year plan envisions an equally obtainable 50 percent reduction," says Weiner, who has been on two recent Colombia missions with McCaffrey.

"He asserts that Europe is succeeding with a liberalized policy but does not mention that drug seizures in Europe have doubled the last three years and use has gone up, indicating that Europe may face our drug and crime problems of past decades that we have escaped from by the comprehensive education and law enforcement efforts we are now making. Stossel dismisses former Drug Czar McCaffrey's assertions of the 'disaster' of European legalization trends by saying 'not what we heard', hardly a scientific methodology.

"Finally, Stossel barely mentions the concession of his own legalization advocates that 'maybe more would use drugs'. He insists that 'The war on drugs is a war on ourselves.' To dismiss the point that under legalization more would use drugs -- and that hospital emergency rooms would be flooded, crime and dropouts would rise, families would be disrupted, and the toll would be immeasurable -- is like asking Mrs. Lincoln on that fateful day, 'Aside from that Mrs. Lincoln how was the play?'"

Weiner concluded by asserting, "I have never seen a worse piece of major journalism on drug policy other than perhaps a similar one done by Geraldo Rivera years ago when he refused to use interview points by the Drug Czar which disagreed with Geraldo's thesis."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: clintonoid; drugwar; sycophant
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To: Wolfie
But doesn't the Constitution reserve those powers not delegated to the fed to the.....oh never mind. SCOTUS sucks period, abd the fed sucks double-period. I guess that when enough states decide to take their power back SC decisions like these will just be pissing in the wind.

EBUCK

61 posted on 07/31/2002 10:04:54 AM PDT by EBUCK
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To: Wolfie
"Stossel throws in the important data point that drug use is down by 50 percent but then says throughout the piece that use is the same and we are losing the war."

Ok, a point I found interesting, that I hadn't noticed before was that drug use when down during the 80s.

But then it leveled off and hasn't dropped in over 10 years.

Now, we have been doing MORE of the same - stricter laws, tougher penalties, more drug cops, forfeiture, etc. etc.

CRIMINAL ANTI-DRUG EFFORTS HAVE NO EFFECT ON DRUG USAGE RATES.

The drug warriors basically took credit for something that was primarily a shift in societal attitudes after the excesses of the 1970s, during the 1980s.

62 posted on 07/31/2002 10:08:04 AM PDT by NC_Libertarian
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To: Wolfie
"marijuana is the second leading cause of car crashes"

I'd like to see that one backed up.

63 posted on 07/31/2002 10:09:39 AM PDT by NC_Libertarian
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To: NC_Libertarian
Of course, it can't be backed up. See post #33
64 posted on 07/31/2002 10:10:32 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"Too many politicians and cops and judges are on the take either directly from the dealers or indirectly from property seizures. "

Of course. It's a cottage industry running dad and mom through the legal system with their son who was spied smoking a pipe a half a mile away by a cop with night vision. It's that incredibly stupid.

65 posted on 07/31/2002 10:10:45 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: billbears
Many other posters touched on most of what I would say, so let me just add this.

I personally believe that no level of government legitimately has the power to prohibit. And I will give the same reason I always do: When the evidence and crime become one in the same, you have just opened the can of worms that allows corrupt(or just zealous) police and justice systems get rid of any opposition. Secondly, when a "government" can define an action as a crime where there is no victim, you no longer have a free state, for anything can become a crime.

States should have the legitimate power to regulate public actions. Regulate and prohibit are opposites.

66 posted on 07/31/2002 10:12:53 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: Paid4This
I think it was on PBS's Frontline special on the WOD where they pointed out that crack use dropped because the younger generation saw what it did to people.

Not much glamor in being a toothless crack whore.
67 posted on 07/31/2002 10:13:06 AM PDT by NC_Libertarian
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To: Wolfie
Wow, 61 posts and not 1 refutes the statements made by Bob Weiner. C'mon guys, he's leading with his chin. Put this guy in his place!

Unless, of course, he's telling the truth?

68 posted on 07/31/2002 10:13:45 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: NC_Libertarian
Ok, a point I found interesting, that I hadn't noticed before was that drug use when(went) down during the 80s.

Given the difficulty in determing "how many" people do drugs, I would tend to suspect that those numbers were "cooked" to make it seem like the "Just Say No" campaign was working.

69 posted on 07/31/2002 10:15:41 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: robertpaulsen
Say What?
70 posted on 07/31/2002 10:16:19 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: kaktuskid
The "hemp" used in those days was for ropes...not for smoking.

What do you think the Indians put in their peace pipes? A few drags on one of those and nobody felt like fighting anymore.

Seriously, the Indians have been using mind altering drug for years (cocoa leaves, mushrooms, peyote, marijuana are all native to the Americas). The Europeans and Asians have been using opium for thousands of years.

71 posted on 07/31/2002 10:16:55 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: EBUCK
Could it be that the drug warriors were "turned" by the network broadcast?

That's assuming that they have the stones to watch the program. They don't. Nor do they have the honesty to admit any wrong on their part.

72 posted on 07/31/2002 10:20:23 AM PDT by Eagle Eye
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To: EBUCK
Tobacco, cocaine, and MJ are all New World plants, are they not? I doubt the validity of that claim.
73 posted on 07/31/2002 10:21:10 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: FreeTally
Are you going to refute what Bob Weiner says, or just badmouth him?
74 posted on 07/31/2002 10:22:33 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: WyldKard
None of these people are fit to hold the positions they do!</i?

I would have you research Justice Thomas and some of his rulings. He is very much a supporter of the 10th Amendment.

75 posted on 07/31/2002 10:22:47 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Eagle Eye
Neither stones nor honesty.

Nor pensions, some day. ;^)
76 posted on 07/31/2002 10:22:50 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Blood of Tyrants
That is the mystery, because they are all native to the Americas. But chemical analysis of mummy wrappings prove it...I'll look you up a link..

EBUCK

77 posted on 07/31/2002 10:23:24 AM PDT by EBUCK
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Figures Thomas would be some kind strict contructionist radical. He smoked the demon weed in law school after all.
78 posted on 07/31/2002 10:23:51 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: kaktuskid
Did the Founding Fathers of the United States of America smoke cannabis? Some researchers think so. Dr. Burke, president of the American Historical Reference Society and a consultant for the Smithsonian Institute, counted seven early presidents as cannabis smokers: George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, Andrew Jackson, Zachary Taylor and Franklin Pierce. "Early letters from our founding fathers refer to the pleasures of hemp smoking," said Burke. Pierce, Taylor and Jackson, all military men, smoked it with their troops. Cannabis was twice as popular among American soldiers in the Mexican War as in Vietnam: Pierce wrote to his family that it was "about the only good thing" about that war.

Burke asserted that Washington & Jefferson were said to exchange smoking blends as personal gifts. Washington reportedly preferred a pipe full of "the leaves of hemp" to alcohol, & wrote in his diaries that he enjoyed the fragrance of hemp flowers. Madison once remarked that hemp gave him insight to create a new & democratic nation. Monroe, creator of the Monroe Doctrine, began smoking it as Ambassador to France & continued to the age of 73. Burke. "Pot & Presidents." in Green Egg. CA. June 21, 1975

Source

79 posted on 07/31/2002 10:25:08 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Link to the first one I found.

EBUCK

80 posted on 07/31/2002 10:28:04 AM PDT by EBUCK
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