EBUCK
Posted on 07/29/2002 6:19:19 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
This year may make 2000 look like a walk in the park.
The Eco Fascists don't care about the burning forests, lost jobs, burning homes, firemen at risk and dying, or the millions of animals dying. It is all about money, filing lawsuits and pocketing the money.
Maybe when Weyerhauser, IP, Roseburg Forest products and other big timber companies see their trees going up in flames, they will quit contributing money to the Sierra Club and other enviornmental eco facists organizations, trying to force the ma and pa timber co's out of business!!
Gramdpa can you please put me on your ping list. I have land in Douglas and Lake counties. Having trouble finding specific information.
TWO OTHERS survived the plunge in northern California and were airlifted to the Mercy Medical Center in Redding, Calif.
The five firefighters were returning from a fire in the Klamath National Forest at about 2 a.m., he said.
“It was a dirt road, very steep and has a drop-off in places up to 800 feet,” said Brian Harris, a public information officer for the U.S. Forest Service. “Indications are they rolled in the worst possible place. It’s safe to say they rolled the entire 800 feet,” over rocky and partially wooded terrain.
The Forest Service identified the dead as Steven Oustad, 51, of Westwood, Heather DePolo, 29, of Redding, and John Self, 19, of Susanville. A memorial service was planned for Monday evening.
The fire they were fighting has forced the closure of a campground but threatened no homes. The fire was 20 percent contained with full containment expected Aug. 4.
The deaths brought to 14 the number of firefighters killed this summer as wildfires continue to rage across the drought-stricken West.
Five firefighters have died this summer in air-tanker crashes. Another five died in June when their van rolled four times on the freeway en route to a blaze in Colorado.
An Oregon firefighter died while cutting down fire-damaged trees in Colorado when he was hit on the back of the head by a tree.
Very few people besides you and Carry realize that Weyerhauser and other biggie timber companies donate large sums to Club Sierra and the ONRC whackos.
They are just as guilty as the super rich second and third generations of elites who despise their family inheritance enough to donate massive funds to Clug Sierra and other enviralist groups.
As my thinking on these fires as tools for the greens evolves, I have to think that until the commericial tree farms get burnt, those who have farms and donate to Club Sierra, et al, benefit from the fires as national, state, and ma and pa timber lands are burnt up.
EBUCK
Clug Sierra = Club Sierra
That's true in terms of ideology, it isn't in terms of economics. They don't want the compeitition from the National Forests depressing their prices. They don't want competition from small producers and want them regulated out of business. That's why they give to greens.
As my thinking on these fires as tools for the greens evolves, I have to think that until the commericial tree farms get burnt, those who have farms and donate to Club Sierra, et al, benefit from the fires as national, state, and ma and pa timber lands are burnt up.
Most commercial farms will survive the fires. That's the point.
Most commercial farms will survive the fires. That's the point.
Which may be the prime reason besides the over regulation of our national/state forests for donating to Club Sierra and other Green Jihadists.
If their forests are not overly regulated re harvest of timber nor burnt up due to Green Jihadist Agendas, then they can sell their second rate lumber for more as demand will exceed supply of wood.
LOL..."nastygram" is my polite way of terming an "in-your-stupid-lying-face-with-the-truth" o-gram...not quite a "Fah-qu-Gram" but close <G>
The last time I whipped one of them out was when CFR was on the table and my Rat Rep, DeFazio, was announcing his support.
EBUCK
Good point. I always thought the donations by big timber companies had something to do with a need to prove that they're "sensitive" to environmental issues, combined with an idea of "protection." I figured they might think that if they donated big time to treehugger organizations, then the treehuggers might leave them alone - more or less.
Your idea makes a lot of sense, though. Follow the money trail. Also, it's been over a year since ELF burnt a tree farm.
July 29, 2002
Fire closes Redwood Hwy between S. Oregon and California
GRANTS PASS - US 199 South, the main highway linking southern Oregon and northern California, has been closed because of the wildfires raging in the area.
Officials say the roadway, also known as the Redwood Highway, will remain closed for 24 hours or longer. It is closed from the Oregon-California border to Jedediah State Park.
Two major fires, known as the Bisquit Complex, are burning tens of thousands of acres of timberland west of Grants Pass. Residents of the town of Selma and the Illinois Valley are under evacuation notice, and the towns of Gasquet and Hiouchi are also threatened.
In the central Oregon area near Sisters, officials have closed US Highway 20 between the Santiam Pass and Sisters due to the Cache Mountain Fire.
Also in southern Oregon, a firefighter working on the Timbered Rock Fire northeast of Medford was seriously injured yesterday when she was struck by a falling tree. The firefighter, who was not immediatedly identified, suffered spinal and interal injuries; an ambulance took her to a local hospital.
Residents of the Elk Creek, Flat Creek and Sugar Pine Creek areas near Shady Cove were urged to leave their homes. Elk Creek Road also was closed.
(Copyright 2002 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
Gov Kitzhopper may be in your area today***********************************BEWARE! LOL!
From katu.com
July 29, 2002
Gov. Kitzhaber to tour Cache Mtn. Fire today
SALEM - Governor John Kitzhaber plans to visit the Cache Mountain Fire command center in Sisters this morning. He also plans to fly over the fire, which has caused the evacuation of thousands of residents of the Black Butte Ranch resort area.
A spokesman for the governor says he will fly in a helicopter from Salem directly to the Sisters high school, where fire managers are stationed.
Firefighters ordered the evacuation of four to five-thousand people in the resort area yesterday. Kitzhaber invoked the Conflagration Act last night, which allows firefighters to be sent to other regions when wildfire resources get low.
The lightning-caused fire broke out on Wednesday and had burned about 3,300 acres by midday. Two houses have been confirmed destroyed.
(Copyright 2002 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
Ultimately, food, water, transportation, and housing. Here is a little quote written in 1933 from Homage to Catalonia, by George Orwell:
In reality, it was the Communists above all others who prevented revolution in Spain. Later, when the Right Wing forces were in full control, the Communists showed themselves willing to go a great deal further than the Liberals in hunting down revolutionary leaders.Remember animal farm, where Boxer couldn't tell the difference between the men and the pigs? Remember O'Briens speech about how unrepentently evil the Party was? Orwell, an English intellectual, knew these people. He knew the Fabian Society, various Huxleys, H.G. Wells, and others. His books were no outside observation, they were expositions of existing plans.[Snip]
Between the Communists and those who claim to stand to the Left of them there is a real difference. The Communists hold that Fascism can be beaten by alliance with sections of the caitalist class (the Popular Front); their opponents hold that theis manoeuvre simply gives Fascism new breeding-grounds. The question has got to be settled; to make the wrong decision may be to land ourselves in for centuries of semi-slavery.
Communism IS Fascism, Dave. It was from the beginning.
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