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Payback Time
Los Angeles New Times ^ | July 25, 2002 | Ron Russel

Posted on 07/28/2002 9:28:34 PM PDT by yendu bwam

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:46 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

More storm clouds are gathering for Cardinal Roger M. Mahony. Police are investigating at least 72 of his current and former priests for child molestation. New accusers surface almost daily. Despite fierce resistance, a grand jury has forced him to turn over records related to three accused clerics. More subpoenas appear inevitable. L.A. County district attorney Steve Cooley says he will pursue the sex-abuse scandal afflicting the nation's largest Roman Catholic archdiocese wherever it leads, even if it means His Eminence becomes the target of a criminal probe. And despite his hiring Enron Corp.'s former public relations firm, Mahony's record of harboring pedo-priests while L.A.'s archbishop -- and before that as bishop of Stockton -- appears to have finally caught up with him, leaving his spin doctors with a formidable challenge.


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72 priests under police investigation in Los Angeles. Cardinal Mahoney runs one of the largest teenage boy sex rings in the nation.
1 posted on 07/28/2002 9:28:34 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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Ping.
2 posted on 07/28/2002 9:31:46 PM PDT by narses
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To: yendu bwam
Wherefore by their fruit...shall you know them...takes on a whole new meaning...sadly.
3 posted on 07/28/2002 9:34:57 PM PDT by narses
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To: yendu bwam
Purloined e-mails between the cardinal and his top lieutenants that a hacker turned over to KFI radio in April show Mahony and his lawyers talking about how to reveal as little as possible to police about priests under suspicion.

This is a man who is not primarily concerned about children. He should never have been a priest in the Catholic Church. He is a scumbag. My parish priest would make a better bishop by far than he.

4 posted on 07/28/2002 9:36:42 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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ping
5 posted on 07/28/2002 9:39:32 PM PDT by Siobhan
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To: yendu bwam
But it really has nothing at all to do with homosexuals donch know.
6 posted on 07/28/2002 9:45:47 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: yendu bwam
The scandal in Mahony's realm has come to be on a plane with that of the Boston Archdiocese, where much-maligned Cardinal Bernard Law has attracted the brunt of national publicity. At last count, law enforcement was investigating at least 142 cases of priestly sex abuse within the L.A. Archdiocese, with the number growing daily.

Let's see. If you were to assume that even only 75% of the priests so accused have acutally molested kids, that would mean that in Boston and LA, 0.75(142+72) = 160 priests have molested kids. 95% of these (about 150) most likely molested teenage boys. Each such homosexual molester priest most likely molested multiple boys (most homosexual molesters molest scores of boys before being caught). But let's say each molested 5 boys (a conservative number, I would guess). That would be 5*150 or 750 boys. Presuming that the molestation were carried out multiple times on the vast majority of these boys, we are likely talking about thousands of incidences of homosexual molestation of teenage boys just in Boston and LA. Just think, in two cities alone, likely more than several thousand times, a priest has approached a boy, and forced him into unnatural and sinful and perverted sex acts, forever damaging that boy's psyche. We have a sodomaniacal Church on our hands.

7 posted on 07/28/2002 9:50:59 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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He has wreaked destruction on the Church. He has, for example, disinterned the relics of St. Vibiana and relegated them to a simple grave rather than as Holy Relics in the Cathedral, as they were intended. Have you seen the new "Cathedral"?
8 posted on 07/28/2002 9:51:50 PM PDT by narses
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Please, please, I don't want to see it. I'm sure it is a piece of ugly and unholy junk.

9 posted on 07/28/2002 9:53:33 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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We have a sodomaniacal Church on our hands.

I would say, We have a sodomaniacal Anti-Church on our hands. The stench of satan has entered the Church. The Church Militant (that would be us) need to fight it.

10 posted on 07/28/2002 9:54:18 PM PDT by narses
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Indeed, the law's co-authors, state senators John Burton (D-San Francisco) and Martha Escutia (D-Whittier) are Roman Catholic.

When our politicians have more integrity than our bishops, you know that our Church is at low ebb.

11 posted on 07/28/2002 9:54:43 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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Abp. Weakland looks like Michaelangelo in comparison. It is hideous. It truly looks like the County Jail. Vomitus Maximus.
12 posted on 07/28/2002 9:55:24 PM PDT by narses
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We have a sodomaniacal Anti-Church on our hands.

I stand corrected. You are right.

13 posted on 07/28/2002 9:55:38 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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Abp. Weakland looks like Michaelangelo in comparison. It is hideous. It truly looks like the County Jail. Vomitus Maximus.

What is it that exists in so many liberals that desires to obliterate that which is truly holy, sanctified, traditional and venerable? They seem to seek to destroy all true meaning in things.

14 posted on 07/28/2002 9:57:30 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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Despite pressing the cardinal to turn over information related to pedo-priests he is suspected of harboring, Mahony has thumbed his nose at the district attorney and investigators from the Los Angeles Police Department and L.A. County Sheriff's Department, even while claiming to cooperate with them.

Purloined e-mails between the cardinal and his top lieutenants that a hacker turned over to KFI radio in April show Mahony and his lawyers talking about how to reveal as little as possible to police about priests under suspicion. It wasn't until June 18, three and a half months after Cooley first ordered him to come clean, that Mahony surrendered the first scrap of paper demanded by the district attorney -- and only after Cooley made good on threats to have the grand jury issue subpoenas.

I have to believe Mahony's attorney's would not normally advise such blatant obstruction.

The scope and scale of Mahony's culpability and the exposure to the LA Archdiocese has got to be greater than imagined heretofore.

Mahony must be in really deep.

15 posted on 07/28/2002 10:11:20 PM PDT by Starwind
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To: yendu bwam
BTTT for later reading!
16 posted on 07/28/2002 10:18:33 PM PDT by Salvation
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Purloined e-mails between the cardinal and his top lieutenants that a hacker turned over to KFI radio in April show Mahony and his lawyers talking about how to reveal as little as possible to police about priests under suspicion.

And here they are ... KFI Emails

The individual who created the web site was pursued by the cardinal, trying to conceal the information. He has had several web sites "hacked", ostensibly by the cardinal's staff, but never gave up. He just created another and another. Persistence pays off.

17 posted on 07/29/2002 2:01:31 AM PDT by NYer
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Have you seen the new "Cathedral"?

Artist's rendering

>br> Under construction

I'll try to track down the stats on the cathedral. Price tag = $50 million!

18 posted on 07/29/2002 2:34:06 AM PDT by NYer
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When our politicians have more integrity than our bishops, you know that our Church is at low ebb.

You ain't kiddin'! I've said before that when a Massachusetts judge (yes, a MA judge -- $1,000 to the right gubernatorial candidate and you've got your judgeship) is apparently the first person to inform Geoghan that he's done anything wrong -- well, something's rotten somewhere.

19 posted on 07/29/2002 3:52:03 AM PDT by maryz
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It is hideous. It truly looks like the County Jail. Vomitus Maximus.

I may have mentioned on another thread that it reminds me most of the building that houses the ventilation equipment for the underground part of the Central Artery here in Boston -- and everyone here is complaining loudly that that's ugly even for ventilation housing!

20 posted on 07/29/2002 3:54:52 AM PDT by maryz
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