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Hollywood's descent into debauchery: Jon Dougherty rips movie portraying adult-child sex
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, July 26, 2002 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 07/25/2002 11:43:45 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

While Tinseltown is known for its leading men and women, when it comes to good old-fashioned morality, Hollywood is devoid of leadership.

In last week's issue of Parade Magazine, actress Bebe Neuwirth, 42, briefly discussed her new movie role in which she plays an adult woman who seduces a teen-age boy.

To her credit, Ms. Neuwirth admitted it is morally improper for a "mature woman to bed a 15-year-old boy." But she went on to say that she took the role anyway because it gave her a chance to work with Sigourney Weaver, whom she has long admired. Translated, that means she believes working with someone she admires is more important than refusing a role that purports to legitimize adult-minor sex, illegal in all 50 states, and that will be shown to impressionable over- and underage audiences all over the country.

While the long-term implications of Neuwirth's decision are shocking enough, consider the short-term implications as well: She has decided to play a character who is "bedding" a teen-age boy just one year older than missing Utah teen Elizabeth Smart.

Moral relativists are groaning already, but Neuwirth's decision has etched another scar in the rusting, dilapidated moral armor of our society. And yet, history has proven time and again that a society with no moral "norms," no acceptable limits on behavior, usually destroys itself.

Not convinced? Then try this more modern example of the effects an overdose of moral relativism is having on Western culture.

According to a story published in Australia's Herald Sun newspaper on Tuesday, family advocates are increasingly worried about the health of Australian children because more of them are having children of their own. Among other things, they blame Western "pop culture."

"Family advocates blame the disturbing frequency of children bearing children on permissive sex education in schools and a pro-sex popular culture," said the paper. "Soap operas depicting young people as sexually active, music videos and teen magazines must share the blame. …"

"… Must share the blame"? If only.

There is nothing defensible about adults "bedding" children; it is, for any reason, unacceptable, either on- or off-screen. Neuwirth's portrayal, therefore, goes beyond the excuse of "artistic value" or even the First Amendment's protection of speech and expression – neither of which qualifies here, by the way, but especially not when our own nation is awash in a rash of horrific child abductions, rapes and murders.

I've no doubt most Hollywood stars and starlets are legitimately concerned about the epidemic of predatory targeting of children in this nation. I would never suggest otherwise. But what are they doing to about it? Are they willing to "share the blame"?

Are stars putting pressure on their colleagues to refuse morally reprehensible roles? Are they rebelling against screenwriters who create such situations for their characters? How do they feel about Neuwirth's particular role?

Or will they simply flip us the collective "bird" again, admonish us to "grow up," then hide behind the straw man argument of the First Amendment – even though not one of them can point to the constitutional provision protecting adult-child sex?

Whatever the case, there's no question it's way past time for Hollywood to step up and accept its responsibility for playing the largest role in creating this climate of sexual permissiveness currently permeating our society.

Stepping up isn't about slapping down Bebe Neuwirth per se, and it's not about judging the people who inhabit Tinsel Town. It's not about being "cool," and it's not about shunning "the Establishment." It's about judging behavior. It's about judging decisions. It's about protecting against the sexual debasement of kids.

It's about helping people like Elizabeth Smart and her parents. Are there any true leading men and women left in Hollywood capable of doing this?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: miramax; tadpole; waltdisneycompany
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To: He Rides A White Horse
Why should I 'defend' your nasty imaginings?
[about my mother at post #45]


.....because tpaine, the thing that stands out is that ultimately, you would have to defend a certain behavior of a loved one for instance to be consistent in your world view..............do you feel that way?


Here again, you may imagine you've made a coherant statement & guestion, - but you haven't.
-- Rephrase, try again, or shut up.

61 posted on 07/27/2002 12:27:38 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
That's complete nonsense, tpaine, and the point of that argument would be lost on you alone.

Here's a novel concept for you.............whenever deciding upon some action, put yourself in the shoes of those whose actions you would advocate..........you want to defend such notions, why not your own mother or sister then?

I wouldn't have a hard time lodging my objections, why not you?

62 posted on 07/27/2002 12:27:56 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: tpaine
This one is easy..........everybody here has a mother, no exceptions.........;)....

..........now, as you were saying.........

63 posted on 07/27/2002 12:30:16 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: He Rides A White Horse
I dont want that nasty bit of work pulled either, or I would have punched 'abuse'.
- Nope, better it stands, as a testimony to your warped sense of 'morals'.
64 posted on 07/27/2002 12:32:13 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Here's the point tpaine..........I want you to come out and expose somebody you care about to libertine teachings............shouldn't be so hard........should be a piece of cake actually, right? It's a great way to go, isn't it?
65 posted on 07/27/2002 12:32:28 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: tpaine
I want you to come out and expose somebody you care about to libertine teachings

..or let me guess.......it's something that applies to 'other people'.

66 posted on 07/27/2002 12:36:55 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: He Rides A White Horse
You deny that you posted a slur on my mother at # 45?
- And then insist you made a valid argument?

- You didn't. Your last few posts are generalised gibberish. Rephrase them, or you'll get no answer from me. - I don't play guessing games.

67 posted on 07/27/2002 12:45:36 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: He Rides A White Horse
To: tpaine
Here's the point tpaine..........I want you to come out and expose somebody you care about to libertine teachings............shouldn't be so hard........should be a piece of cake actually, right? It's a great way to go, isn't it?
65 posted on 7/27/02 12:32 PM Pacific by He Rides A White Horse
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To: tpaine
I want you to come out and expose somebody you care about to libertine teachings
..or let me guess.......it's something that applies to 'other people'.
66 posted on 7/27/02 12:36 PM Pacific


Good grief. - In the two posts above, you are talking to yourself.
-- It may be time to get out the nets.
68 posted on 07/27/2002 12:51:03 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine; He Rides A White Horse
Hey guys, seriously, you're hi-jacking the thread. Perhaps continue this via freepmail?

One point here He Rides A White Horse, tpaine never said he advocated an adult female/minor male relationship as "OK". You're the one who lumped Libertarians in with those who think this kind of thing is ok. Did you not expect some sort of response?

69 posted on 07/27/2002 12:51:28 PM PDT by realpatriot71
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To: JohnHuang2; All
After reading through this entire thread and shaking my head some of the comments, I looked up Tadpole on IMDB - http://us.imdb.com/Title?0271219 - and it seems to be even worse than JohnHuang2's article depicts. Oscar, our virile 15 year old, is in love with his step-mother, Sigourney Weaver, and seeks first to bed her. Instead, he settles for her best friend, Bebe Neuwirth, who is all too happy to oblige, since she wanted him anyway. Meanwhile, other assorted older women all seem to have the hots for him too. Eventually, one of these other friends, who knows about his sex with the best friend, reveals it to his parents, and they don't really seem to mind at all.

So, what do we have? A young man with no respect for his father and his new marriage because gratuitous sex is more important, a woman with no respect for her best friend and her new family because gratuitous sex is more important, a whole bunch of older women going after a kid when they should know better, and parents who don't care that their 40-something friend is having sex with their 15 year old son.

I don't care how oversexed some of you think you were at 15, there are no valuable lessons to be learned from this movie, other than the fact that Hollywood is just as twisted as we thought and simply doesn't care. The scary thing is that too many of us don't seem to either.

/ rant off.
70 posted on 07/27/2002 12:58:36 PM PDT by agrace
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To: realpatriot71
Hey, you are more that welcome to 'hijack' this thread back to the subject.
-- You deal with the horses ass who rode in.
71 posted on 07/27/2002 12:59:20 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Sometimes you can be your own worse enemy tpaine . . . Do what you wish. I'm not the posting police.
72 posted on 07/27/2002 1:01:58 PM PDT by realpatriot71
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To: realpatriot71
Posting police? Who said you were?
And why so sensitive? - I get attacked, I respond. So do you.

By all means, - 'do what you wish' -. To bad that truism didn't occur to you before your post.
You could have followed your own advice.
73 posted on 07/27/2002 1:10:43 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
You deny that you posted a slur on my mother at # 45? - And then insist you made a valid argument?

It is a valid argument. You prove it in spades with your strong reaction.

74 posted on 07/28/2002 4:53:53 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: He Rides A White Horse
Your stupid attempt to involve my mother invoked the reaction, you idiot.
75 posted on 07/28/2002 9:04:38 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: Kevin Curry
Some quotes from the The Pedophilia/Pedophile Education Web Site Mirror:

"Pedophilia is a sexual-orientation, like heterosexuality, homosexuality, bisexuality, etc..."

"Free speech right must be held up, but sadly there are people too ignorant to see past their hate and who endorse the idea of us being banned from the web... Free web page sites like Geocities have already responded to the pressure of these Fascists by shutting down websites advocating "boy love", while hypocritically leaving up gay-lesbian homepages, and even proudly listing them as members of the community!..."

"The bottom line is pedophiles must no longer be victims of hate-crimes and censorship for their beliefs. We must unite and stand against intolerance until we are accepted like gays are...

"It is time for a new beginning. Pedophiles should be active in the community to educate the masses on this lifestyle. This is currently very hard to do, but it has to happen sometime. Hopefully, pedophiles will be able to personally inform children inside elementary schools about pedophiles & who they REALLY are. We need classes for this purpose where pedophiles show kids in school that we are not child molesters. We can teach them the truth that other misguided adults will not reveal..."


Notice the similarities between the Pedophile Agenda and the Homosexual Agenda?

There are more quotes posted in reply #14 in the thread An UPDATE for "Womens Auxillary of NAMBLA"

You will find that Page five of the pedo web site mirror contains of some of the most perverted and vile stuff ever written. These wackos actually believe this stuff.

76 posted on 07/28/2002 9:33:47 AM PDT by EdReform
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