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Smart Case, July 26, 2002
07/26/02 | Jolly Green

Posted on 07/25/2002 9:01:00 PM PDT by Jolly Green

Time Line
05/30/02 Thursday ~ Ricci returns to pick up his Jeep at the auto repair shop before the shop has a chance to fully fix it He tells the repairman that it needed for an emergency.
06/04/02 Tuesday ~ Ricci is at work from about 9am to 5:30pm
~ Ricci claims he spends the evening with friends
06/05/02 Wednesday ~ 1:05am - 2 cars are spotted on the SLC Shriner's Hospital Parking Lot by a hospital security guard, two blocks from the Smart residence
~ 1:30am (approx) - Elizabeth is kidnapped from her home
~ 1:30am - Ricci claims to be in bed asleep with his with wife.
~ Ricci is scheduled to be off work all day today.
~ 7:21am - Rachel/Amber alert is issued and national media is involved.
~ 8:30am - Ricci and his neighbor talk about the kidnapping of Elizabeth, Ricci seems to know too much information about it.
~ Sometime during this day Ricci is visited by police in regards to Elizabeth's kidnapping as reported by Angela Ricci (Richard A. Ricci's Wife which is an ex-convict herself)
~ Ricci is seen by his neighbor digging a hole by his (Ricci's) trailer early in the morning. (heard the neighbor say this on TV)
06/06/02 Thursday ~ Ricci is scheduled to work from 9am to 5:30pm today, but instead works from 10:30am to 7:00pm
~ Police talk to Ricci this day about the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping. (The media is reporting this, so it could be wrong)
06/08/02 Saturday ~ Ricci returns the Jeep to the repair shop to get it fixed. The Jeep is muddy and the repair shop owner sees Ricci remove seat covers from the back of the jeep and place them into a plastic garbage bag that already contains other stuff in it. Also the repair shop owner said a muddy post hole digger was in the back of the Jeep, Ricci removes this also. Ricci has a man waiting across the street to give him a ride. Ricci takes the plastic bag and contents along with the post hole digger with him. Also there is 500 to 1000 extra miles on the Jeep since Ricci picked it up on May 30th, 2002.
06/14/02 Friday ~ Ricci is taken into custody for a parole violation, this being the 2001 robbery of the Smart Home in which he admitted to.
Special thanks to Brigette for starting this timeline.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: elizabethsmart
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To: brigette
I remember at some point they were looking into the 3 people that Ed Smart released after the theft and Ricci lied and told Ed he had passed a police polygraph.
101 posted on 07/26/2002 12:38:17 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: Jolly Green
We now know from Boylan that there is a reason, but we still don't know what it is.

I really don't believe this, can you provide a reference for it?

102 posted on 07/26/2002 12:45:26 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: brigette
How did Ricci pay for the Jeep then if he was fired after the Theft of the Smart Home? Ed Smart said Ricci worked in his home for a few months. The last time he worked in the home was in September of 2001 as Ed Smart said on TV. Common sense says he was fired in June and then rehired so that the Jeep debt could be paid off.

You are trying to kill the messenger. I heard him say it, that's all I can tell you.

103 posted on 07/26/2002 12:46:33 PM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: brigette
I just had to put another pet asleep today. I had to put another one asleep last week.

Aw, I'm so sorry Brigette. I had to have my best little buddy put to sleep 2 weeks ago, I'm still sick over it.

104 posted on 07/26/2002 12:47:50 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: Jolly Green
Some of these interviews are really disjointed. Look at the O'Reilly/Klaas interview.

I agree with that. However, I heard it, and so many commentators have commented on the strange thing T.Smart said in the interview, both on cable shows and in print.

Sad thing is, it takes so much time to remember when in all this time, it was broadcast, who wrote about it, when it was printed..etc. to be able to Google it out !!

LOL that big a sleuth I am not, Jolly ! (did I lower your expectation of me ? ROF ! )

105 posted on 07/26/2002 1:01:42 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: Jolly Green
No... Jolly I heard the same messenger as you. You and I heard him differently. Or you heard more than I or I heard more than you did. We have to think logically... Ricci was still working in the home as of September 2001, the theft occurred in June of 2001. So Ricci must have been allowed to return and work in the home after the theft.
106 posted on 07/26/2002 1:07:18 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: spore-gasm
SMART: I believe that this person is not a bad person at all. And our family has felt strongly for a while. And there's been a comfort here for a while. This is just somebody who actually likes Elizabeth. We don't know -- we have issues. We've been ripped apart by our polygraph. I don't know who has done what with my brothers.

We all have issues. Anybody's taken -- we've been ripped apart to the core. And we understand that everybody has issues. And we pray hard that whoever this is will know that the family is full of compassion towards everybody because this is a wonderful story, in a lot of ways.

Because it's about, foremost, a beautiful, little angelic girl. But it's also about -- everybody has issues no matter what. It crosses the boundaries on everything. It's an amazing story.

Huh? Any analysis on this garble?

107 posted on 07/26/2002 1:10:39 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: Sherlock
Thanks Sherlock... it killing me also. I had 4 cats (2 now) and 2 dogs. The dogs are outside animals protecting the 5 acres we have and the cats are indoor but mainly outdoor/garage pets. I don't know what happened to them or why they got so ill. I just hope my other 2 cats survive, they are acting fine as of now. They are confined to the house now, so I can keep an eye on them. There was nothing laying around to make them sick.
108 posted on 07/26/2002 1:12:23 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: brigette
Wow, think of that, a burglary took place in the Smart home.

Recci was one of the men working when it took place,

he let them all go,

Recci had hours to work off on a car of Smarts,

and Mr. Smart reconsider's because he had promised Richard he could work off the car,

and let's him come back into the house and work !

even tho at the time, he wasn't sure if Richard was the one who did the burglary?

wow.

109 posted on 07/26/2002 1:12:34 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: Jolly Green; brigette
Like Jolly my memory is he never worked for Ed Smart again. However there was something about Ricci called Ed later and went by and saw him and they finished the deal and Ricci got the Jeep. Ed may have given him the Jeep at that point just to get him out of his life.
110 posted on 07/26/2002 1:15:12 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: anatolfz
Sketches, description: If any of this matched Ricci, and if MK could identify him, then he would be charged.

From 6/19/02 newspaper article...Louis said there is no composite sketch of the abductor because the 9-year-old was unable to sufficiently describe his facial features.

111 posted on 07/26/2002 1:17:53 PM PDT by AmusedBystander
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To: Neenah
Theft is the word here... Burglary is entering a home when your not suppose to be in it. Ricci took the things while he worked there. But Ed Smart had several people working in the home at the time. I guess Ed should have took the Jeep back and paid out cash to Ricci. Whatever the deal was it had to be sticky for Ed and not a wise choice as we all now know. What do you think happened on the Ed & Ricci deal? Do you recall hearing Ed say that Ricci was still working in the home as of September 2001? (I am not sure how to take your message)
112 posted on 07/26/2002 1:18:57 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: brigette
Sammy was my only pet, a Siamese cat, I took her in as a stray about 7 years ago. She had a virus (not feline leukemia) that gave her fits for the last year and she went through all 9 of her lives and kept coming back. Everything in my house was arranged for that cat.
113 posted on 07/26/2002 1:20:26 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: Sherlock
So you think he was fired in June of 2001 also? - WoW.... is all I can say... I heard something totally different, unless Ed has come out and said something I have missed. Even Uncle Tom said Ricci worked in the home up until September 2001... I guess I have to look it up in the news articles I have and hope that statement is there somewhere. If I do find it I'll post it.
114 posted on 07/26/2002 1:22:05 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: brigette
Ricci was fired, but was let back in.

Remember in the video, Mr. Smart says to the anchorette that Recci came and told him he had taken a polygraph ?And then he says "Now I know he lied to me " (paraphrased) Maybe that is when Mr. Smart let him continue to work off the car.

Now think of this.....does anyone know....when the Smart home had the burglary, did Mr. Smart REPORT it? Was there an investigation? Did he list what was stolen? Is there a police report on the burglary?

I keep asking myself, why the police didn't check on the worker's homes...but maybe THAT is the answer...(no report filed). Why would a smart business man in a million dollar + home, not check out the polygraph with the police? And why would he not report it if he didn't ?? This worker just tells him this, and he backs down, and let's him continue? huh? strange.

Does anyone know?

115 posted on 07/26/2002 1:27:33 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: Jolly Green
ROFLMBO !!!
116 posted on 07/26/2002 1:36:43 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: Sherlock
I read this as saying people had very legitimate reasons for raising questions about why there wasn't a sketch forth coming from very early on.

I tend to agree. The punctuation is key and we can only guess about that. I'm more focused on the following:

I have worked on and typically I am brought in to undo damage that has been done inadvertantly by investigators through leading questions, etc. In this case, I was actually fairly stunned to arrive at the scene and find out none of those mistakes have been made. The've done exceptionally well at protecting and preserving Mary Katherine's recall. A traditional sketch artist, would come early on in with a supply of visual information, catalogs of facial features, etc, and ask them to, asking the eye witness to pick among those features to create a composit. That can be distructive to eye witness recall. That wasn't done in this case, out of a want to protect her information early on...so everything has been done really suburbly in this case by both the Police, the F.B.I. and in addition to the people surrounding and supporting Mary Katherine."

KATIE: "And in fact, part of the problem, I understand, of producing a sketch early on, it can contaminate the memory of that individual and really muddy what they actually recall about what they've seen."

BROYLAN: "Exactly, and that wasn't done in this case. So I really have to commend the Salt Lake Police Department and the F.B.I. for doing a supurb job at protecting this information, and the way they are utilizing the information. We were able to produce internally for very sound reasons, as well, and things are being done very professionally in this case."

I believe the "out of a want to protect her information early on" phrase is significant. They have a reason for not releasing the sketch. It just occurs to me that maybe MK is bait. If the perp thought she got a good enough view, he/they might want to silence her and a trap might lay in wait.

117 posted on 07/26/2002 1:39:41 PM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: brigette
We have to think logically... Ricci was still working in the home as of September 2001, the theft occurred in June of 2001

There isn't any logic to it. He either was working in September or he wasn't. Assuming the theft was in June, then I don't think he was working there in September based upon the interview I saw.

119 posted on 07/26/2002 1:44:44 PM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: spore-gasm
Thanks for posting this spore-gasm.

Sometimes it helps to read transcripts, now that we are further down the road. They sure show some things different.

By the way...who is this "charlie" ?

120 posted on 07/26/2002 1:47:50 PM PDT by Neenah
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