[Cachelot]

Is that a fair statement?

Yes. Although there are places where islam is contained, like in Turkey. But even in such places islam is working towards transforming the country into a Sharia-based one, which would mean a state based on violent repression and barbarism.

[Torie]

Yes, well I dissent, in part but only in part, because in some places nominal adherents of Islam take a more relaxed and catholic (small c) view of matters. They are more attuned to and tolerant of other forces in this world. They put religion in a larger context.