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Preparing for Jihad in Alabama - Islamic Militant Training Camp Allegedly Operating in Alabama
ABCnews.com | 7/25/02 | Brian Ross

Posted on 07/25/2002 4:38:02 PM PDT by freeperfromnj

July 25 — A training camp linked to Islamic militants has been operating in Alabama, and European law enforcement officials believe Muslim extremists were using it to prepare for a holy war.

British authorities also thought that militants from overseas were training in the United States to take advantage of America's gun laws, sources told ABCNEWS. The looming question for law enforcement is whether there is a connection between the camp and the al Qaeda terror network.

An investigation by Britain's Scotland Yard led to the discovery of the camp in Marion, Ala. The facility is called "Ground Zero USA."

Bullet-riddled police cars and a school bus with mannequin targets are scattered around the property. Inside a huge shed is an equally macabre scene — shot-up mannequins, male and female, in domestic settings, some with red, blood-like stains on them.

Ground Zero's operators promised state-of-the-art, world-class training in automatic weapons, urban warfare, SWAT tactics and martial arts, supposedly to fight terror attacks.

Marion Police Chief Tony Buford said he became suspicious of the use of police cars and buses as targets.

"It was rumored that the camp here was used as training site for possible people that were sent here to do bodily harm to Americans," Buford told ABCNEWS.

Web Site Provides Terror Link

The suspected terror ties of the Alabama camp were unknown until after Sept. 11, when officials in London arrested an accused al Qaeda supporter, Zain-ul-Albidin

He is charged with operation of a Web site, under the name of Sakina Security, allegedly recruiting Muslims for an Islamic jihad or holy war. He is now on trial in London.

The site, since taken down by British authorities, described what seemed to be the Alabama camp, including live-fire exercises at a state-of-the-art shooting range in the United States — something that would not be legal in Britain.

"In the United States, it is not illegal for anyone to receive military training, high-grade military training," said Rohan Gunaratna, author of Inside Al Qaeda.

The actual owners of camp, who are also British, say it was used primarily to train law enforcement personnel. Officials consider them unwitting accomplices. The camp owners declined to talk to ABCNEWS.

Scale of Secret Camps Unknown

It is not known how many holy war recruits came through the camp or when. But the FBI is now investigating a number of suspected training camps around the country.

"We know of a number of cases where Islamic terrorists came and training in this country in the early 1990s. It is likely that this scale of training is still continuing," Gunaratna said.

The most radical and belligerent of London's Islamic clerics, Abu Hamza, told ABCNEWS in a phone call that America's laws make such paramilitary training easy, "like a picnic."

British intelligence officials told ABCNEWS they are closely examining alleged ties between Hamza, who is said to have recruited alleged "20th hijacker" Zacarias Moussaoui, and Zain-ul-Albidin.


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: Alabama; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alabama; albidin; trainingcamp; ulalbidin; zainulalbidin
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To: freeperfromnj; weikel
>>>>July 25 — A training camp linked to Islamic militants has been operating in Alabama, and European law enforcement officials believe Muslim extremists were using it to prepare for a holy war.>>>>>> "What of the reports of the Jihadists training camps in Alabama?"

"BEGIN LANDING YOUR TROOPS"

Viceroy, is the State secure?

Rummy: "Yes, my Lord, we have taken over the last pockets of primitive Jihadists life forms. We are in complete control of Alabama now."

41 posted on 07/25/2002 6:06:54 PM PDT by Senator_Palpatine
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To: Jimer
LOL! Make the crescent-and-stars smaller, put more of them in the cross field in white, and that would be perfect!
42 posted on 07/25/2002 6:07:54 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: GWELO
"Simple,outlaw muslims in the USA."

Works for me.

43 posted on 07/25/2002 6:14:23 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Jimer
"The new Islama-Bama Flag"

The NAACLP has already indicated that they don't like that "X" thing across the middle.

44 posted on 07/25/2002 6:21:47 PM PDT by blam
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To: viligantcitizen
I remember. Were these possibly the clowns using the lake.
45 posted on 07/25/2002 6:23:23 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: 1bigdictator
In Perry county, Pennsylvania there is a black Muslim with the last name MUSA

What does "MUSA" mean? I had a middle eastern guy in my apartment complex that had personalized license plates that said MUSA.

46 posted on 07/25/2002 6:24:42 PM PDT by muggs
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To: freeperfromnj
WAKE UP, PEOPLE. IT's all propaganda. I wouldn't doubt that they will use this excuse to go after the 2nd Amendment. Furthermore, doesn't it seem a bit odd that talks of "urban warfare" are even mentioned. A terrorist attack or new member of Al Quaida everyday. In Alabama?
47 posted on 07/25/2002 6:28:03 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: muggs
I don't know... in pig latin I think it means "Ass mmmmm...."; the Arabs like ass maybe? Or, maybe its just a last name like Smith in America.
48 posted on 07/25/2002 6:29:20 PM PDT by 1bigdictator
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To: Jimer
Islam-Bama Battle Flag

49 posted on 07/25/2002 6:32:57 PM PDT by Consort
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To: doug from upland; FreedomPoster
"I remember. Were these possibly the clowns using the lake.

I was just telling my neighbor, Freedom Poster, about that incident.

They sure fit the clown profile to a tee.

50 posted on 07/25/2002 6:33:49 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: freeperfromnj
Marion Alabama

This small community is located south of Birmingham on Highway 5, just outside the Talldega National Forest. Marion is located in Perry County.

Looks like Marion is NW of Selma.

51 posted on 07/25/2002 6:34:11 PM PDT by blam
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To: Capt. Tom
Where is our FBI?

The same place everyone else in the country is.Either hiding,blissfully in ignorance doing the same old routine, or preparing and/or executing their assigned missions.We may think we know the percentages of these three groups, but it will be 20-30 years before the "truth" comes out, if ever.

The media is an uninvited non-player in this fight.And like any unwelcome guest, they tend to act badly.Lessons were learned in VietNam and all following "missions".I get a kick out of people who actually think the news/entertainment media in all its glorious self-importance is somehow more capable than the people who are actually tasked with doing something constructive.

We did not import the populace of the various **I agencies from Mars.These men and women are some of the best, and some of the worst of the combined "us" that make up the citizenry of the USA.

Personally, since I have actually experienced personal contact with the **I folks and the agents of the "press", I will take my chances with the media's natural enemy, the people who actually do something and actively avoid the proverbial 15 minutes of fame.

52 posted on 07/25/2002 6:45:39 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: freeperfromnj
"British authorities also thought that militants from overseas were training in the United States to take advantage of America's gun laws,"

Sure........All Terrorist can apply legally for guns don't you know? They just fill out the application and put a check mark in the purpose box that says, "Islamic Revolutionary".

It’s not the Gun Laws that will be taken an advantage of. It’s those Bama Boy's that will be taking advantage of Ali and the pull starts.

53 posted on 07/25/2002 6:52:24 PM PDT by habaes corpussel
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To: freeperfromnj
"British authorities also thought that militants from overseas were training in the United States to take advantage of America's gun laws,"

Sure........All Terrorist can apply legally for guns don't you know? They just fill out the application and put a check mark in the purpose box that says, "Islamic Revolutionary".

It’s not the Gun Laws that will be taken an advantage of. It’s those Bama Boy's that will be taking advantage of Ali Jihad and the pull starts.

54 posted on 07/25/2002 6:56:51 PM PDT by habaes corpussel
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To: jdogbearhunter; da_toolman
Road-trip...........................
55 posted on 07/25/2002 7:11:18 PM PDT by phasma proeliator
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To: Jimer
The updated version of your flag rocks! ROFLOL!!
56 posted on 07/25/2002 7:13:55 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: tessalu
Time to strip search some more old ladies in walkers and babies in strollers. After all Islam is a religion of peace and if you want the honest truth we care more about offending foreigners than protecting ourselves. We are going down the tubes so fast the Ex Soviets are probably wondering how they lost to such a nation of idiots. Then again we were a different people forty years ago.
57 posted on 07/25/2002 7:14:21 PM PDT by willyone
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To: freeperfromnj
They said on the latest news that they were using a school bus for a target and had it all smeared with red simulating blood. Then I think they went on to say that they didn't think it was terrorist related . . .
59 posted on 07/25/2002 7:14:35 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Senator_Palpatine
Almost spit out my drink on that one. LOL!
60 posted on 07/25/2002 7:15:32 PM PDT by Kermit
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