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Bugs: The Best Witnesses? (Westerfield's Son Neal Forced To Testify By Desperate D.A. Dusek!!)
Court TV ^ | July 25, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 07/24/2002 10:44:59 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: Spunky
They can pinpoint the time ...

I wouldn't say pinpoint. It's been pretty well established that there are a lot of variables that go into the calculations and they are estimating, too.

901 posted on 07/25/2002 5:35:00 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: demsux
"Damon is a BIG mountain biking guy..."


Well, hell's bells! (laughing), I DID NOT KNOW THAT about Damon!!

Ya reckon he took her on a "wild ride" that night to Dehesa Rd.?

902 posted on 07/25/2002 5:35:47 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: gigi
,i>but have been stuck in Richmond, VA. Can't trace past my grandfather.

Richmond. I think that's where my brother went to college ...Randolph-Macon ...then off to Oxford. He had a heart attack at age 43 and died. I know it's sad ... no sympathy needed. It was a long time ago.

But I would love to see the South. So much history and the lovely antebellum homes. The FOOD!!! :-D

903 posted on 07/25/2002 5:36:36 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: cyncooper
OPPS! Make that a Double Double with CHEESE and grilled onions. Also known as an Animal Cheese.
904 posted on 07/25/2002 5:36:59 PM PDT by gigi
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To: gigi
All they do is burgers and fries and they have pretty good shakes.

And, as everyone knows, the Bible verse on the bottom of the Dixie cup. I may have to go over there tomorrow afternoon. :-)))

905 posted on 07/25/2002 5:38:57 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: pyx
No, I don't know that. All the chips I use (mostly PICs) are sensitive to infarred light (unless sealed), but not sensitive to magnetic field.
906 posted on 07/25/2002 5:38:57 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: the Deejay
I agree. Someone on the CTV bb, shortly after the trial started, said they took a trip to the recovery site & reported there is "no way a huge RV" could have gotten in there. It would have to have been a small car or bike.

She wasn't that far from the road. Why would the MH have to go off road for him to deposit her? Especially since he had already gotten stuck twice trying to get well off the beaten path. If it's the middle of the night and under cover of darkness, he can see no traffic coming in either direction, it wouldn't take long to carry her and set her down and scram.

907 posted on 07/25/2002 5:39:37 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: BunnySlippers
LOL! Oh! your mean... will you get me a hamburger and overnite to me???
908 posted on 07/25/2002 5:42:10 PM PDT by gigi
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To: gigi
We have those IN-OUT Burger places here in Las Vegas, and I don't care for their food. It's 'suppose' to be like the burgers from the 1950's.

Well, I was a teenager back then, and I'll say IN-OUT is NOT THE SAME, not even close. IN-OUT is still fast food anyway you slice it.
909 posted on 07/25/2002 5:42:37 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: BunnySlippers; ~Kim4VRWC's~; redlipstick; VRWC_minion; Greg Weston; cyncooper; fatima; All
PORNOGRAPHY.

This post is for all the hypocritical people that think they are so Lilly White and respectable, and that DW is a PERVERT because he had computer disks with files that were sexually oriented.In the meantime, the parents of the VICTIM in this case, seem to be allowed to commit WIDE OPEN ADULTERY, DRUGS, and admittedly didn’t even pay attention to their daughter’s whereabouts until it was too late .

PORN found on their computers and in their garage is not allowed to be discussed during the TRIAL. They are not the criminals (or are they?)

The problem I have seen is that we have a nation that is DISGUSTED that DW had PORN. They make the leap from possession of PORN (without any proof he ever viewed any of the allegedly illegal PORN) to MURDER. They assume murder after sexual assault. There is no evidence, due to the condition of the body, that that crime was committed and DW is not being charged with it either.

But the MINDS of the public have already made that leap. WHY? PORN is BAD. He shouldn’t have it. He is a PERVERT if he does. If he had CHILD PORN he had sex with KIDS. POSSESSION=Intent to commit crime.

WELL FOLKS. Let me explain something. You can possess something and have no interest in it, other than idle curiousity. You don’t have to possess it to be affected by it. You can be a pervert and have NO PORN WHATSOEVER in your possession.

If we JUDGE DW on the basis of HAVING VIEWED PORN, then 99% of the NATION is GUILTY and needs to be investigated for every murder and rape committed.

The REASON. I have heard so many ‘innocent’ men and women make remarks about the PORN. Like they have never seen any, don’t watch it, aren’t exposed to it. If being exposed to PORN makes you commit sexual assault, then exposure to MURDER scenes on film MAKES YOU COMMIT MURDER.

Silence of the Lambs

Halloween I,II,III,IV,V

How about GANG RAPE of a MINOR and EXTREME VIOLENCE? CLOCKWORK ORANGE.

NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET (1,2,3,4,etc)

and THOUSANDS MORE.

PORN. “No, I don’t have any in MY HOUSE. I would NEVER WATCH IT”

B*LLSH*T !

I know you have a computer, else you couldn't read this. Have PORN on your computer? This has been discussed relentlessly on FR, but for the blind, YES YOU DO. Unless you have specifically purchased software designed to remove it, or are a 'geek' and know where/how to find/get rid of it (and even then it may be recoverable, even if you write over it again, and again, and again) then maybe you don't (for about the next 2 seconds. Spam hits you relentlessly while on the net, and can contain porn)

You have a TV SET, you watch PORN.

You Have CABLE TV, you watch more risqué forms of PORN.

You have a SATELLITE DISH, you get the MOST HARDCORE PORN that is available.

You don’t possess it to the point the police have EVIDENCE they can cart off, BUT YOU HAVE IT AVAILABLE. If just having access to it is all that counts, YOU ARE GUILTY. Think that because you don't watch it your kids don't. Then you really are a fool.

Don’t have TV, OK, do you read ?

Romantic Women’s Novels. PORN.

ELLE magazine, PORN.

MAXIM magazine, PORN

COSMOS magazine, PORN

VOGUE magazine, PORN

thinly veiled, widely accepted, but PORN.

BIG BROTHER (3) On you local broadcast TV station coming soon . VOYEURISTIC PORN.

VICTORIA SECRET UNDERWEAR MODELS SHOW., PORNPORNPORNPORN.

Hubby ever go to a BACHELOR PARTY for a relative or a friend, LIVE IN YOUR LAP/FACE PORN.

Hubby go to TOPLESS BARS with the guys after work occasionally? (No) Well, you mean he doesn’t tell you that is where he went. PORN IN YOUR LAP.

In some of the EASTERN states, they are showing FILMS to your CHILDREN explaining to the how to PLACE THEIR FISTS in another persons ANAL ORIFICE for SEXUAL PLEASURE. If that isn’t PORN, I don’t know what is. And this is being done by TEACHERS to your CHILDREN.

SO, before you go condemning DW for having some sexual material, that he may have viewed some of , and probably got completely JADED with, remember this.

YOU TOO HAVE PORN.

910 posted on 07/25/2002 5:42:54 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Krodg
You can't make a mountain of evidence out of a nonexistant ant hill.

No hill, just 1 ant.

911 posted on 07/25/2002 5:43:59 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: cyncooper
I think I remember, that the cops believe she was carried in from the "north" which I took to be way from the main road and closer the the back trail (which did look like it had had SUV type traffic).
912 posted on 07/25/2002 5:44:27 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: gigi
Noted----that sounds really good!
913 posted on 07/25/2002 5:45:20 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: John Jamieson
I agree its a puzzle. But a bunch of maybes and might have beens can't ever build into a "proof". Many of these pieces maybe from different puzzles. People are trying to force the pieces into a finished picture.

But maybe here is pause for thought. People are not supposed to throw out all common sense. They can come to the conclusion that ther are too many "coincidences".

No one saw any children in the motorhome, her hairs in the sink, her blood in the motorhome ... but to me, the clincher ... her blood on his jacket which he just happened to DECIDE to take to the cleaners the weekend he disappeared EVEN THO she must have (if you believe him) dropped the blood months earlier.

One can accept only so many weird scenarios like this.

914 posted on 07/25/2002 5:45:24 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: cyncooper
I'm just telling you what the poster did & reported about the recovery site & surrounding area. Apparently, it is not very possible for an huge RV to park on the main road itself. And the body was deposited from the top of the area. This has been confirmed in testimony about the drag marks & blond hair(s) found by the police. Therefore, the body wasn't drug from the main (paved) road.
915 posted on 07/25/2002 5:46:06 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: BunnySlippers
But it intersting to see the changes according to stimulous ... petting my cat Harley (pressure down) ... thinking nice thoughts (pressure down), listening to the news (pressure up), posting on FR sometimes (pressure up).

What you say above is why I hope you didn't let the doctor put you on BP medication yet. So many times a person goes to the doctor and has a high reading and they say you need medication. You need to take readings throughout the day and then determine if it is to high most of the time.

916 posted on 07/25/2002 5:48:40 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: John Jamieson
"I think I remember, that the cops believe she was carried in from the "north" which I took to be way from the main road and closer the the back trail (which did look like it had had SUV type traffic)."


HAHAHAHA!! I just posted the same to cyncooper!! Cyn questioned me (re the CTV poster who visited the site), & I gave Cyn what the poster said.


917 posted on 07/25/2002 5:48:46 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
She wasnt' mummified enough.
918 posted on 07/25/2002 5:49:50 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: BunnySlippers
"People are not supposed to throw out all common sense. They can come to the conclusion that ther are too many "coincidences"."

I disagree, especially in a death case. "beyond reasonable doubt" which has been described as "to a moral certainty" is required.
919 posted on 07/25/2002 5:50:03 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: cyncooper
I live in AZ and rumor has it that In-N-Out is coming our way and those in the know say it is really good. Since you say you miss it, that would verify! Looking forward to it.....

Very very good. Still family owned and absolutely no franchising. Old stick-in-the-mud Americana. Not trendy. Basic hamburger ... limited menu ... homemade iced tea and lemonade & shakes. Real lettuce and real tomatoes. No nonsense. Eat food and enjoy.

920 posted on 07/25/2002 5:50:15 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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