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Bugs: The Best Witnesses? (Westerfield's Son Neal Forced To Testify By Desperate D.A. Dusek!!)
Court TV ^ | July 25, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 07/24/2002 10:44:59 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: demsux
Patience...I am on 2 boards...
681 posted on 07/25/2002 3:04:54 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: John Jamieson
JJ, where have you been?! I wondered what you thought of today's witness.the anthropologist.
682 posted on 07/25/2002 3:06:13 PM PDT by the-gooroo
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To: VRWC_minion
If this were a pup I especially doubt it would follow (a child?)(my word) very close.

I agree. But I said imagine a dog free and a child following it. The child may not be right next to the dog, but seeing the dog out followed where the dog went.

683 posted on 07/25/2002 3:07:20 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: ernie pantuso
I 'think" dusek decided to not use faulkner cuz of his lack of experience with mummified bodies. It's this witness's profession. it's a miracle in to have a mummified body cuz it ruled out so many causes of death... also, he testified that little kids bodies can mummify quickly..within 24 hrs..and a rodent could chew into body later...say 10 days AFTER being dumped which would then allow bugs inside. The dried mummified skin will keep the inside moist enough for blowfies to still want to utilize the resource...it says he's seen that happen a lot of times..
684 posted on 07/25/2002 3:08:22 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: demsux

CONGRATS....YOU ARE THE VD 666-Thread Winner For Today....

Eerie isn't it....

Major ritual "sabbat" dates on the Occult/Witchcraft/Satanism calendar.

This date sticks out....February 2, 2002    Danielle Van Dam, Age 7

 

DATE: October 31 NAME: *SAMHAIN; ALL HALLOWS' EVE; HALLOWEEN; NOVEMBER EVE WITCHCRAFT: Rituals to contact the dead SATANISTS: Sexual and blood rituals with animal or humans & animal or human sacrifice

DATE: December 21/22 NAME: YULE; WINTER SOLSTICE; WITCHCRAFT: Rituals celebrating the rebirth of the sun SATANISTS: Sexual rituals, animal or human

DATE: February 2 NAME: IMBOLIC; IMBOK; CANDLEMAS; OIMELE; LADY DAY; BRIGID DAY WITCHCRAFT: Sexual rituals; Celtic triple goddess Brigid honored. SATANISM: Sexual rituals, human

DATE: MARCH 20/21 NAME: Spring Equinox; Vernal Equinox WITCHCRAFT: This is a fertility sabbat. Pagans celebrate the coming of fertility of the earth; Sexual rituals celebrated by various groups. SATANISM: Orgies held; Animal or human sacrifices

DATE: April 30 NAME: *BELTANE; MAY EVE; ROODMAS DAY; WALPURGISNACHT WITCHCRAFT: Rituals focusing on the love between male & female. In fact, many pagan handcastings (weddings) take place at this sabbat. Rituals celebrating the fertility of the Mother Goddess (Earth) are carried out. SATANISTS: Blood rituals; Animal or human sacrifices

DATE: JUNE 21 NAME: SUMMER SOLSTICE; MIDSUMMER'S EVE; WITCHES: Bonfire rituals SATANISTS: Orgies; Animal or human sacrifices

DATE: AUGUST 1 NAME: LUGNASADH (Named for Celtic Solar god Lugh);LAMMAS DAY WITCHES: Harvest rituals SATANISTS: Animal or Human sacrifice

DATE: SEPTEMBER 21 to 23 (Date varies annually) NAME: AUTUMN EQUINOX WITCHES: Some covens have rituals reenacting Pluto or Hades (grim god of death) forcefully carrying of Persephone (young goddess of life) to the underworld. SATANISTS: Sexual orgies and or animal and human sacrifice.


685 posted on 07/25/2002 3:08:53 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Spunky
Very talented dog to open the door.
686 posted on 07/25/2002 3:09:17 PM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: basscleff; demsux
I don't even want to go down that road, but there have been some theories she wasn't ALIVE on that Friday night...Now this expert witness, for the Prosecution, says she could have been dead before that. I guess we can just throw out his testimony :~)I know...I won't go there.

Dem..I'm sprinkling you with Holy water for the 666...:~)

sw

687 posted on 07/25/2002 3:09:58 PM PDT by spectre
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To: demsux
Mummy Man is being reburied.

I don't agree that the day was a waste of time. The more experts Dusek brings in the more reasonable doubt he creates. He should have quit days ago, if he was trying to convict DW.

Bug Man III is going to clear this all up!
688 posted on 07/25/2002 3:10:13 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: ernie pantuso
but it has been my observation that an overwhelming number of "DW is guilty" posters have never questioned the plausibility of any State hypothesis/theory/witness regardless of the weakness of same.

I take exception to that. I have posted several problems I have with this guys testimony. Lack of proof of the ants and lack of correlation of the road heat to February to name a few.

But as to strategy and for the purpose of this guys testimony I believe the prosecution has accomplished its job. It has provided another estimate from another forensic field that supports an earlier drop off date for the body.

I also "feel" something else about the defense rebuttle that could be happening as an unanticipated consequence that Feldman has walked into in. In his zeal to disprove this guy who is weak on bug stuff he is making two mistakes in my opinion.

THe first mistake is that by testing every assumption through his questions he is bringing the attention to the jury that the determination of the dates is complex and the jury may ask itself whether any witness could be relied on.

The second mistake is one of strategy. When the real bug guy testifies he will know exactly how Feldman is going to cross so he will be better prepared. Goff won't make the same mistakes.

689 posted on 07/25/2002 3:10:30 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: FresnoDA
Thank you, Thank you....
Feldmanization in progress...blowflies like natural openings better than trauma
690 posted on 07/25/2002 3:11:13 PM PDT by demsux
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To: ernie pantuso
I have been predominantly a lurker on these threads since the trial began(I have not formed an opinion re: guilty/not guilty), but it has been my observation that an overwhelming number of "DW is guilty" posters have never questioned the plausibility of any State hypothesis/theory/witness regardless of the weakness of same.

My comments were about my evaluation, of how the JURY will see the evidence.

I am undecided. I think there is strong evidence against DAW, but there may be doubt, at the end. I predict a hung jury.

691 posted on 07/25/2002 3:11:23 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: the-gooroo
Been working all night, sleeping during the day.
692 posted on 07/25/2002 3:11:26 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: Stiv
Probably not. The defense asked for the chip and was denied.
694 posted on 07/25/2002 3:12:00 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: Spunky
But I said imagine a dog free and a child following it.

Ok and the dog wants to go in the RV why ?

695 posted on 07/25/2002 3:12:18 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: truth_seeker
Looks like Lisa Bloom is even coming over to the acquital side.
696 posted on 07/25/2002 3:13:09 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: demsux
"blowflies like natural openings better than trauma "

That's not what the mummification witness says..post mortem...

Current witness....organs still recognizable enough in Danielle still a food source in good enough condition for blowflies..

697 posted on 07/25/2002 3:14:29 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Politicalmom
Very interesting. I have been suspicious of his little science experiment for a long time. When did he do this and when did he say it?
698 posted on 07/25/2002 3:14:55 PM PDT by HoneyBoo
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To: spectre
Spec...are you a Priest, or a NOUN!! LOL
699 posted on 07/25/2002 3:15:13 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: spectre
NOUN = NUN
700 posted on 07/25/2002 3:15:26 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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