Bugs: The Best Witnesses? (Westerfield's Son Neal Forced To Testify By Desperate D.A. Dusek!!)

Court TV ^ | July 25, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

[cyncooper]

See #319

[ItsOurTimeNow]

Or, is it possible that the Van Dams cleaned up after their guests left? Steam cleaner in MB still wet...

Also, bear in mind that the LEO's weren't searching for evidence of the "swingin' six" of that night...only evidence of Westerfield...which they found none.

[ItsOurTimeNow]

see post #322

[EllaMinnow]

Then maybe they inadvertantly cleaned up evidence of DW too, huh?

[mommya]

No - many of your points are good - that's why you are such a worthy opponent for arguing with - I think there is a possibility that you are correct in your thinking - I just need to hear the expert say it on the stand - then I will weigh it against all the other stuff - I am not locked into a verdict - I have an opinion from what I've heard so far - but I will listen openly to all the rest of the testimony.

[Spunky]

If the body was mummified, why were there blow flies, which only like 'fresh meat'. A body that had been at the site for up to two weeks prior to attracting blow flies would hardly qualify as fresh.

OK! I really don't know what I am saying but let me try again. The prosecution says her body was there 2/1 or 2/2. I am saying according to the Golf course guy there was a lot of frost (moisture)and maybe watering (I thought he indicated because of all the frost they didn't water) which would cause the body to rot rather than mummify.

Testimony says she had some mummification. Now I am thinking what if she was killed and put there sometime around 2/14-16. The weather was warm enough to begin instant mummification (hands, face) plus be fresh enough for blowflies to start laying eggs in.

Does this make any sense?

[ItsOurTimeNow]

I suppose that's possible, that may explain why there wasn't a SINGLE fingerprint in Danielle's room...not even her own.

What about the unidentified prints that LEO's didn't bother to find out whom they belonged to?

[mommya]

Makes much sense to me.

[cyncooper]

Also, bear in mind that the LEO's weren't searching for evidence of the "swingin' six" of that night...only evidence of Westerfield...which they found none.

That is not exactly correct. They did try to do a comparison. Then again, they know they were there----they were not trying to find out IF they were at the house.

[bolthead]

if Goff is able to testify, will be a very good foundation for that testimony.

It appears that Goff will be testifying. After the session ended yesterday a local station went back for a discussion between the lawyers and the judge. Clarke was asking if Goff could testify Friday because he has something scheduled at U of Hawaii Monday that he absolutely has to attend.

Mudd said his own schedule would not allow Friday session. Goff would have to be available for Tuesday.

I bet the current guy's reference to Goff as an expert who has done work on ants eating maggots was "encouraged" by the prosecution.

[ItsOurTimeNow]

When did they try to do a comparison? I don't recall that coming out in testimony?

[cyncooper]

that may explain why there wasn't a SINGLE fingerprint in Danielle's room...not even her own.

That is incorrect information. Her prints were on her door. Smudged prints in her room and unidentified found, I believe?

[demsux]

Danielle was not allowed to walk across the street

This statement "of fact" is attributed to BVD and DVD...PROVEN LIARS.

[JudyB1938]

And what about the unidentified DNA in her BED!

[cyncooper]

Any local scoop on what the consultation between the judge, lawyers and jury was about this morning?

[cyncooper]

Really? Were there any neighbors that testified to observing Danielle walking by herself around the streets? I don't believe so, and there seemed to be a lot of neighbors who kept their eyes open to neighborhood activity.

[VRWC_minion]

From Goff article I posted yesterday

As the maggot activity peaks, further beetles, ants and wasps arrive, some to join the feast, some to prey on the maggots. Others act as parasites, aiming to use living maggots as incubators for their own offspring. Link

[cyncooper]

When did they try to do a comparison? I don't recall that coming out in testimony?

There was testimony that their fingerprints weren't found (meaning they looked and didn't find them).

[mommya]

So when do you think the peak of maggot activity was?

[bolthead]

One reporter said that one of the primary jurors was called in for a discussion with the judge and lawyers. Then one of the alternates was called in for a separate discussion. Finally the judge talked to the entire jury. When the session started, the judge said absolutely nothing in explanation.