Ok. How do you reconcile that you were willing to use military forces to augment "police" on our borders? Or the National Guardsmen at the airports? Or the Coast Guard in our ports?
This says that you are not completely aginst using the military domestically.
21 posted on 7/21/02 10:14 AM Pacific by NetValue
The President swore an oath to uphold the Constitution. In that Constitution it specificly states that the President is to protect the states from invasion. Any President who does not uphold that oath is impeachable, not that our spineless Congress would ever take their duty seriously.
What is an invasion? An invasion is nothing more than the occupation of our territory. There is no requirement that the invaders be armed. As time passes and tens of millions of foreign nationals occupy our land, the effect will be the same. The infrastructure of our nation is changed. The language changes. The majority populace becomes the foreign national. Eventually their desires will rule the day in our nation.
Now, when is it proper to use U.S. armed forces? Is it only proper to use it to used armed invaders? If so then our nation could be overrun by any nation that desired to occupy our soil with enough of it's foreign nationals.
China owns the largest oceanic shipping company, Cosco. They could load their fleet of ships up with hundreds of millions of invading aliens any time they liked. Would it be proper for us to stop them, or to allow them to do so as we do the Mexican nationals today?
I would submit that it is entirely proper to put armed forces on the border to focus outward with the intent of stopping the occupation of our nation. What you are comparing to this is the policing of U.S. citizens within our borders. That is completely different. Our founding fathers did not envision a standing U.S. army policing it's own citizens. I don't either.
There two evil things that the Founding Fathers, never wanted, and never thot would happen. They envisioned for this country, citizen legislators and a citizen military.
First we got professional politicians with a lifetime grip on power and then we got a professional military. Now the professional legislators want to give the professional military the power of arrest.
I do not think the Founding Fathers would ever agree with this.
Don't start putting ideas into the founders' heads. Article I, section 8 allows Congress to raise and support armies. Even New York City didn't have a formal police force until 1845. Police are fairly new.
I ran across this link which explains how the US worked before Posse Comitatus. It's even from one of those "Big Brother is right around the corner" authors.