Posted on 07/19/2002 4:14:32 PM PDT by csvset
Sex assault suspect beaten in jail
07/18/2002
Police say inmates in the same cellblock attacked 42-year-old Linwood Rainey in a common area after one of them asked him if he was the man in the news for a sexual assault.
Rainey was charged with forcible sodomy on Friday.
Rainey was beaten on his face, head and back.
A jail spokeswoman says inmates charged with sexual offenses involving children are not automatically segregated from other inmates, but they are isolated if they ask to be placed in protective custody.
We should push for maximum integration in prison.
I know correctional officers are some of the smartest and intuitive members of law enforcement, but now you want them to be claivoyant as well? I'm sure you have heard the saying Sh!t happens. Well in prison or jail really bad sh!t happens, sometimes all day long.
The lynch mob is so much more satisying emotionally... but it's still nothing more than pure unadulterated and unrestrained democracy: it's a mob.
I never thought of prison violence in those terms, "unrestrained democracy". That's not what it is. There is no "mob" mentality at work, some nefarious sub-culture within the prison system that preys on sexual preditors. Convicts in general are not that sophisticated. There are however rules to live with, and in some cases to "actually remain alive" within the prison environment.
Sexual crimes against children are considered to be the lowest form of crime. Those convicted of the most heinous crimes agree that a child is an innocent, and is protected even by the worst in our society. It has nothing to do with "mob mentallity" or "pure unadulterated and unrestrained democracy", it has to do with morality, ethics and society, a society where only the strong survive, and the strongest are the most violent.
Child molesters, or "chesters", (as in "chester the molester") are considered weak because they prey upon the weakest of society and they will in turn become the prey, convicted or not.
Don't take the easy way out and blame the guards/correctional staff because a chester got his butt kicked.
You are participating in the highest rung in our free society, the freedom of speach. Much like the murderer in prison you have reached the pinicle of society. In our society it is law enforcement, and the weakest among them are the prison guards.
Did it ever occure to you that Mr. Roberson ONLY got his butt kicked and wasn't murdered-because of the jail/prison staff?
It sounds like you're saying what the guards did was just fine. As I recall, a jury did not agree and awarded Roberson monies, perhaps as a penalty for their lack of clairvoyance.
>The lynch mob...
I never thought of prison violence in those terms...
No, I was referring to actual lynch mobs. Strange fruit. Punishment imposed outside of (prior to) the protections (such as they are) provided by legal procedures.
You are correct, bad things happen in jail and prison, all the time. And sometimes the, er, recipient deserves it. Nobody mourned when that crazy cannibal (I forget his name, Dahmer?) was murdered in prison, for example.
But it's a bit discomfiting to hear those who one expects to lead with their heads (the conservative says: "I think that...") instead of their emotions (the liberal says: "I feel that...") do exactly the opposite.
I guess I didn't make my self clear, if the guards were involved in any way, either by direct action, or indirect action (indiference)then they were wrong, and as you state a jury awarded monies to MR. Roberson because of the actions/inaction of guards
But what you said is...Had the guards somehow recognized that a witchhunt was in progress they might not have allowed Roberson to be beaten up.
I could say, had the Wright bros. somehow recognized that airplanes would be used as weapons they might not have gone to Kitty Hawk.
But it's a bit discomfiting to hear those who one expects to lead with their heads (the conservative says: "I think that...") instead of their emotions (the liberal says: "I feel that...") do exactly the opposite.
I hope that wasn't directed at me, I think, no, I feel like I might cry, oh damn that Rush Limbaugh!
Have you ever known any co's? As a lot, they are the stupidest, most cruel, and slimy part of a prison.They are a lower lifeform than the prisoners! Ever work in a prison? I have.
I know several co's, they are a fine lot. Some of the best people I have ever had the pleasure to know.
Even lower than Richard Allen Davis the murder of Pualie Klass, that's pretty low. I didn't know.
What you are saying is that you would prefer Alejandro Avila baby sit your daughter then have her watched by a correctional officer.
I didn't know correctional officers where held in such low re-guards, (excuse the pun) by the public.
Soledad 93-98.
Working the steam line in the dinning hall doesn't qualify for "working" in a prison.
I've always wondered if the people who took out Dahmer in jail were paid to do it. There seemed to be little investigation surrounding it, and Dahmer certainly had enough enemies to give them the motive to put out a contract on him.
Yes, that was horrible. It was bad for the people framed, and it was bad for kids who really do get molested. I am the biggest law and order "lock 'em up and throw away the key" guy, but I fear some of these prosecutors who look on the guilty verdict as the goal regardless of the evidence.
There, there. :-) LOL. No, it wasn't.
How come they are only sick when they get caught? Sickness is a condition - EVIL is a behavior. These men are EVIL!
I agree.
BTW, I worked with both prisoners and guards. I was afraid of the guards! Moreover, not that it matters, I was a Federal Prosecutor for 21 years.
Isn't it amazing how even the most learned of society can be fooled into believing that a subset of civilization just by association,(either real or contrived)can become an over powering, sometimes brutal, and oft times cruel institution.
Don't take me wrong, there are Correctional Officers out there that are the epitome of the stereotypical CO. Knuckle draggin' neanderthals, is my favorite description.
As a lot Correctional Officers do nothing more than a job, a job most people, by the way would never do. We are not in "customer service", trying to be nice. At best, we treat everyone the same, with empathy, and understanding. Sometimes we fail.
I am sure that at times prosecutors fail. Probably more often, in the eyes of victims, than you would like to admit, but you continue on. So does the Correctional Officer.
Here is something for you to ponder, in all your 21 years of working with inmates, and "guards", did you ever think you would yell "inmate, I'm a Prosecutor, help me!"? Or did you just waltz into the prison knowing that those you depise so much would do anything possible to get you out alive, even die to save your life?
To me you are nothing more than a crack whore, going in to my house. I don't care if you carry a big brief case, a badge, or the tittle of U.S. Prosecutor. You're all trouble. Everytime that gate opens, and lets someone known/unknown inside, my life is at risk.
Sorry if we are not more personable.
You heard it right, Joe...there is such a thing "inmate code of honor" were by crimes of any kind involving little kids, are seen as a shame upon one's criminal activities.
Believe it or not even the criminals have a code of "ethics" of sort, were little kids involved is absolutely a no-no. Also kiling one ought to be a certain way, not a la Jeffrey Dahmer(that's why he got killed in the prison, because he was out of line in his killings).Strange but all of this is true...
As to for this guy who killed little Samantha, he WILL be dead the moment he sets a foot in any prison, period. Mark my word, the courts will have an easy job on this...HE is a dead man one way or another and that is a promise. It is a just a matter af time 'til that happens'
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