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There Must Be Some Way Out Of Here
The Economist ^ | July 18, 2002 | Staff - Print edition

Posted on 07/18/2002 11:01:35 PM PDT by Uncle Bill

There Must Be Some Way Out Of Here

THE ECONOMIST
July 18th 2002 | WASHINGTON, DC From The Economist print edition

Americans are losing confidence in the economy. Can George Bush stem the slide?

THESE are not happy times for the White House. Share prices are tumbling, consumer confidence has fallen sharply and George Bush's own approval ratings seem to be heading down. For an administration haunted by the ghost of George Bush senior, whose defeat in 1992 was blamed on a sluggish economy, the parallels are becoming painful, not least because the current president's efforts to reassure Americans are also falling flat.

Mr Bush's trip to Wall Street to preach about corporate ethics was widely derided as too little, too late. This week's follow-up, a hastily-arranged pep talk on the economy in Alabama, proved another embarrassment. “This economy is coming back,” boomed Mr Bush. “That's the fact.” Meanwhile, in one of Wall Street's more dramatic days, stockmarkets slumped (though they recovered somewhat after he finished). It was all too close to Herbert Hoover, who famously proclaimed America's economy to be on a “sound and prosperous basis” in October 1929.

Judging Mr Bush's words by short-term movements in share prices is, of course, neither fair nor useful. The real questions are whether the White House has correctly diagnosed what ails the American economy, and whether its policies are right.

Mr Bush's basic contention is that the fundamentals of the American economy are in good shape. This was also the message of Alan Greenspan, chairman of the Federal Reserve, in congressional testimony the following day. At first blush, they have a point. Inflation is low and productivity growth remains surprisingly robust. Much of the excess investment that firms had built up during the boom has been worked off. Consumer spending remains surprisingly solid. Retail sales, for instance, rose 1.1% in June, far faster than analysts were expecting. The Fed has raised its forecast for economic growth in 2002 to 3.5-3.75%.

Yet despite these apparently good fundamentals, consumers are worried. The University of Michigan's consumer-confidence index fell sharply in July, to levels last seen in November. The main reason, of course, is the stockmarket slide (see article). Over the past two weeks alone the Dow Jones Industrial Average has fallen by 6%. The S&P 500 has dropped to levels not seen since October 1997. The technology-laden Nasdaq index is 72% below its peak in March 2000.

In large measure, this slide is the deflation of the 1990s bubble, a point Mr Bush himself hinted at: “America must get rid of the hangover that we now have as a result of the binge...we just went through,” he said in Alabama. But it has clearly been aggravated by the slew of corporate scandals and the loss of investor confidence.

Sliding equity prices could begin to hurt those fundamentals, promoted so assiduously by Messrs Bush and Greenspan. Household saving, in particular, may be found wanting as Americans re-evaluate what they can expect from their retirement portfolios. That suggests a protracted spell of sluggish, rather than buoyant, consumer spending. Capital investment could also suffer, if firms become more cautious about borrowing.

Unfortunately, there are scant signs that the administration will help counter this. In his Alabama speech, Mr Bush promised an “agenda for long-term growth”. This encompassed: fiscal policy (he wants to make his tax cut permanent, whilst forcing Congress to hold the line on spending); trade policy (he urged Congress to grant him “fast-track” authority to negotiate trade agreements); corporate reform (he touted his new Corporate Fraud Task Force, promised more money for the Securities and Exchange Commission, and urged Congress to send him an accounting-reform bill before August); boosting accountability in schools; and terrorism-risk insurance.

This grab-bag of assorted policies hardly constitutes a post-bubble economic agenda. Even if you thought it did, once you start going through the individual bits, the progress is patchy. For instance, the Senate certainly passed a tough corporate-reform bill on July 15th, and Mr Bush welcomed it. The next day Republicans in the House of Representatives promised to dilute many of the measures in the Senate bill (though they did agree to stiffer sentences for corporate criminals).

Nor do the prospects for trade policy look good. The Bush team has been pushing Congress for fast-track authority for 18 months. Legislation squeaked past the House of Representatives last December and the Senate in May. But reconciling the two bills has been difficult. If Congress does not get round to voting on fast-track by the August recess, the proximity of the mid-term elections in November suggests that the politically sensitive trade bill has little hope.

The biggest and most intractable problems, however, concern fiscal policy. Nobody seems to have absorbed how a post-bubble environment might influence the budget. On July 12th, the Bush administration announced that the federal government would run a deficit of $165 billion this year, compared with an earlier forecast of $106 billion made in February 2002. Although the economy has grown faster than expected since February, tax revenues have plummeted. Much of this revenue drop is due to the stockmarket, as individuals' capital gains have turned into losses. If the bear market lasts, so too will those revenue shortfalls.

In these conditions, Mr Bush's main fiscal policy—that his 2001 tax cuts, ostensibly to be reversed in 2010, should be made permanent—is hard to justify. If demand weakens substantially, there may be a case for more tax cuts (or spending) today. But it is hard to see the fiscal wisdom in making future tax cuts permanent at a time when revenues are so uncertain.

On spending, blame needs to be divided between the White House and Congress. Mr Bush talks tough on spending. He has threatened to veto a $27 billion supplemental budget bill that Congress has larded up to $31 billion. However, by agreeing to far larger, and permanent, expenditures (such as the massive farm bill) Mr Bush has lost the moral high ground. Congress, in turn, is closely divided, and short on any procedural systems for fiscal discipline. Finger-pointing and partisan bickering are far more likely in Washington than the confidence-inspiring policies that America's economy needs.

Copyright © The Economist Newspaper Limited 2002. All rights reserved.


Repeal the 16th amendment and abolish the income tax. Abolish the IRS and take away the citizenship of senior IRS officials and send them to Russia where they'll feel at home. Obliterate federal spending, and start to pay off the national debt in large chunks. Abolish "static scoring" with regards to taxation of any kind. Reinstate and restore the Constitution and Bill of Rights and abolish all laws, treaties, emergency orders and executive orders that have rendered it useless and return to the Constitutional boundaries of our constitutional Republic our founding fathers gave us. Importantly, repeal the Emergency and War Powers Acts. Repeal all laws created by unconstitutional and extraconstitutional devices, such as Executive Order or Presidential Directive. Repeal and abolish all unconstitutional federal involvement in states issues such as: crime, health, education, welfare and the environment, and only God knows how many other intrusions. Social programs such as Social Security, welfare and Medicare must be repealed. So too, do most federal subsidies. Rescind all treaties and International Agreements which are not in perfect agreement with the Constitution. Tell the United Nations to stuff it! The U.S. should disassociate itself from the U.N. and the U.N. should be forced to leave the United States. Destroy all documentation that links the U.S. with the U.N. See Arthur Andersen for details. Alger Hiss, screw you. Furthermore, demand that the federal government refrain from meddling in the business and squabbles of foreign nations, unless there is an imminent threat to the people of the United States. PROTECT OUR BORDERS!! Elect a real small government candidate for President, and the same for Congress. Take memory loss drug to try to forget that most Americans love socialism in about every way and that politicans are simply a reflection of themselves, and, none of the above is going to happen. Now, returning back to reality. Terrorism, shadow government, Stock market crash, federal government crash, Police State, Martial Law, gun-confiscation, FEMA, FBI, CIA, Dictatorship, T.I.P.S., Carnivore, Operation Magic Lantern, Echelon, The Patriot Act, Executive orders too numerous to count, slavery, death, One World Government. It could never happen here. For those of you not just interested in Medicare Part B.

HOW BIG IS THE GOVERNMENT'S DEBT? - $33.1 TRILLION!


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: confidence; consumers; crash; economy; fdr2; markets
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
"Considering the mess the President inherited, it won't be fixed in 2 years, and maybe not even in 4 years."

Good grief, just how blind are you? You think Bush and his handlers, and the Republican controlled Congress will fix or help this situation by spending like drunken sailors? At least try to be a little honest while drinking the kool-aid and typing. By the way, if you need any proof of the Bush and Republican socialist spending parade, you just ask me. I'll be more than happy to supply you proof. That doesn't matter though does it?

181 posted on 01/02/2003 3:10:46 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill
I've heard your kind of hysteria since President Bush took office. The problem you are going to have, is that many of us have followed the "real" cause for the problems we are enduring today. We've spoken up quite publicly and predicted EXACTLY what has happened. With regard to BOTH national security, AND THE ECONOMY!!

It is "I" who could enlighten you. But I get the feeling I'd be dealing with a closed mind. And you know what they say.. "A closed mind is like a parachute that won't open".

Incase you didn't get it.. let me spell it out. Your kind of thinking is D-A-N-G-E-R-O-U-S!!

Fregards, Vets

PS. Kool-aid won't cause paranoid or altered thinking. But the stuff you're tippin or smoking must!! Open your mind, set yourself free......

182 posted on 01/02/2003 12:23:05 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Uncle Bill
Interesting Article from The Washington Times. I may not agree with all of this authors "predictions".. but he may not be too far off on some of them. Noteworthy to you, would be remarks regarding the economy. (Sigh.. why do I bother!!!) </sarcasm :o)

January 2, 2003


2003 Predictions



Tony Blankley

First , the good news: A year from now civilization will still be intact and most Americans correctly will be looking forward to a very good 2004, in which the economy will be growing, President Bush will be admired through much of the world and his re-election will be almost certain. But, before the cheering must come the struggle. So follows the not completely cheerful predictions for 2003.
• Washington politics will start out pitting the White House against congressional Republicans in a sometimes vituperative fight over federal spending. This will actually be a three-sided fight between the White House and conservative back-bench deficit-hawk Republicans , the appropriators and the Republican congressional leadership. The White House/conservative team will demand spending limits that can't pass either the House or the Senate. The appropriators will be called rude names by conservatives. The leadership will try to take over from the appropriators, but will fail to get the low White House spending numbers passed. The Democrats will sit on the side lines and giggle. Ultimately, events will force spending far in excess of the early White House demands.
• Deficit spending in fiscal year 2003-04 will top $300 billion. This will be the product of both higher defense and domestic spending and lower federal revenues due to a sputtering economy.
• The still overpriced stock markets, facing low corporate profits, flagging consumer demand and some interruptions in world trade will drop about another 10 to 15 percent by the end of the year. Extreme volatility will make matters seem worse than they are.
• The dollar will drop about 10 percent in value against the Euro, as our trade deficit continues to balloon.
• Saddam Hussein and his Baath Party will be out of power in Iraq by the springtime. Our occupation of Iraq will be managed without any tragic incidents.
• The fall of Saddam will trigger uprisings in at least two Middle East countries — one such government will fall to a fundamentalist/jihadist regime, the other to a more or less pro-western, moderate, democratically inclined government.
• The flow of oil temporarily will be slowed or stopped by these events. There will be a furious debate within the Bush administration and in Congress over whether to militarily intervene to secure the disrupted oil flows. Bush will decide to act. After an initially embarrassing series of U.S. military snafus and native sabotaging of the oil fields, order will be regained and by the winter oil will be flowing at record levels and the price of oil will settle at between $15 and $20 a barrel (after taking a wild ride to briefly over $100 on the spot market.)
• There will be two major, but not catastrophic, terrorist attacks. One either will be in Europe or at sea. The other will be in the United States. It will be obvious to the public that the federal emergency response to the attack in the United States was poorly conceived and carried-out.
• After the immediate shock and clean up, several Democratic Party leaders will badly misjudge the politics of those events. Democratic presidential aspirants will fall in to a contest to see who can criticize President Bush more harshly. By over-playing their hand, the Democratic leaders will lose the public. The public will rally to the President, despite the administrative failure surrounding the terrorist attack.
• Hillary Clinton, who will have kept her head down through the post-attack politics, will step forward to salvage the Democratic Party from its self-inflicted damage. She will explain that based on her 8 years in the White House, she understands the terrible challenges a President faces. Whether she runs for president or not, she will establish herself as the natural leader of the Democratic Party. With the exception of Senator Lieberman, most of the other Democratic leaders will have permanently marginalized themselves by mismanaging the politics of terror.
• Thanksgiving 2003 long will be remembered as a highly emotional coming together of the country, after which an explosion of optimism will create the most profitable Christmas shopping season on record.
• That will be the turnaround moment for the U.S. economy. A December 1000-point run up of the Dow Jones average on the New York Stock Exchange will trigger the beginning of the boom of 2004.
• North Korea will have gone back to sleep after a fitful springtime.
• After a not-so-private call by Republican Party elders to take Dick Cheney off the ticket (in order to groom an heir apparent for 2008), President Bush will successfully convince them that Mr. Cheney must remain on the ticket — for the good of the country.


Tony Blankley is editorial page editor of The Washington Times. His syndicated column appears on Wednesdays. E-mail: tblankley@washingtontimes.com.

183 posted on 01/02/2003 12:49:23 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: philman_36

Dow Falls 145.28, S & P 500 Index falls 13.00, Nasdaq sheds 30.51

Tokyo stocks close down as worries return - Forbes

Stocks: Corporate earnings worries hit shares

Dow slips after Bush's stimulus plan gets lukewarm reception

Seniors largely unimpressed by Bush's dividend proposal

How Wall Street has spread its misery around - "longest and deepest bear market since the Depression"

184 posted on 01/08/2003 4:16:31 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Joe Hadenuf
AOL-TW May Write Down Billions Again
185 posted on 01/08/2003 4:47:14 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Considering the mess the President inherited, it won't be fixed in 2 years, and maybe not even in 4 years. But its kind of like putting on weight.. it comes on so quick.. but takes twice as long to take off.

How about the massive lawlessness created by millions of illegal aliens, that was going on under his Dads administration? He too stood by and watched, and did nothing. The results are now glaring, and nationwide.......

186 posted on 01/08/2003 6:27:32 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Uncle Bill
There must be some confusion...

I'm dying over here...lots of delayed work around here on account of the uncertainy with the proposed military action. I may be on the road and away again.
Lovely economic picture...

187 posted on 01/09/2003 10:26:27 AM PST by philman_36
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I agree with you regarding the massive illegals entering our country. We feel we should stop all immigration until we KNOW we can follow the whereabouts of all immigrants who enter this country. Like we used to do YEARS ago!! Make sure people sponsor and are responsible for anyone entering.

No arguement there.. and yes, it has been a mistake by quite a few Presidents.

But we are of the mind that we will never agree 100 percent with even a President we believe in. We think President Bush is doing an excellent job all things considered and that includes the complexity of the issues the man is facing.

However,.. in the matter of illegal immigrants.. have you been watching what is happening in CA? (INS/Justice Department rules ARE being inacted!!)

There is a HUGE outcry BECAUSE we are insisting people register!! I can't recall the deadline that is coming up here really soon.. but believe me.. a lot of people aren't happy (ACLU types) But we are!!

Fregards, Vets
188 posted on 01/09/2003 4:13:29 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: philman_36

Stocks Slide, Corporate Giants Disappoint

Microsoft Falls on Lower Sales, Profit View

Factories Quiet, Consumers Glum

GE Profit Slides, More Declines Ahead

Worries About IBM Growth Hit Stock

Trade gap to sink GDP

New York Fed president to retire

Consumer confidence dips

189 posted on 01/18/2003 3:21:33 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Askel5

Dow Industrials Skid 238 Points, Nasdaq Slumps 46

AIG's $12.6 Billion Dollar Haircut

Consumer Confidence Plummets to 9-Yr Low

Stocks Sink; Dow, S&P 500 at 3-Month Lows

Dow Tumbles 252; Nasdaq Falls 47

Markets Plunge On War Jitters

US stocks plunge

NYSE Says Messier Resigns from Its Board

R. Glenn Hubbard, chairman of the president's Council of Economic Advisers, is preparing to leave the White House

Future Dark For Financier Of Hospitals - National Century Financial Enterprises Inc. are likely to lose at least $2 billion, and the company will not emerge from bankruptcy

Lockheed, Raytheon Post Losses on Charges

ADM Profit Falls, Hurt by Soybean Prices

Dow retreats 220 points in biggest selloff of the year

Citigroup CEO Ordered to Give Deposition

Stocks fall in Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Chile

Dollar Gets Hammered With Iraq War Fears

War worries make for week of heavy losses on Wall Street


FINANCIAL SENSE ONLINE

190 posted on 01/24/2003 3:59:56 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Askel5
Dow: 7,980.86 -150.15 (-1.85%)
Nasdaq: 1,320.37 -21.77 (-1.62%)
S&P 500: 845.41 -16.00 (-1.86%)
10-Yr Bond 3.968% +0.065
NYSE Volume 1,101,915,000
Nasdaq Volume 1,134,355,000
Quote data provided by Reuters
Brokers: Ameritrade - Harrisdirect - Scottrade - TD
Waterhouse

Stocks fall on war fears after Blix talks tough on Iraq


JOBS OUTLOOK WORSENING, NEW REPORT CLAIMS

191 posted on 01/27/2003 12:10:17 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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