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GOP Homeland Security bill prohibits national ID card, 'citizen spy' programs
Associated Press / SFGate

Posted on 07/18/2002 7:38:53 PM PDT by RCW2001

CURT ANDERSON, Associated Press Writer
Thursday, July 18, 2002
©2002 Associated Press

URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2002/07/18/national1643EDT0751.DTL

(07-18) 14:34 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --

President Bush's plan for uniform national drivers' license standards would be killed and a year-end deadline for anti-terrorism screening of airport baggage would be postponed indefinitely under legislation unveiled Thursday by House Republican leaders.

The fine print of the 216-page bill creating a new Homeland Security Department, sponsored by House Majority Leader Dick Armey, also would scrap a Bush administration program that critics say encourages Americans to spy on each other and would give some technology companies involved in national security immunity from lawsuits.

The House Select Committee on Homeland Security is likely to alter the measure when it is considered Friday, as is the full House when it reaches the floor next week. Overall, the bill would give President Bush much of the huge new Cabinet agency he requested to safeguard Americans from terrorism at home.

The Senate has finished hearings on a new department, but is not expected to take up the issue for a few weeks. A spokeswoman for the chief Senate author, Democrat Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut, said his version would also include most of Bush's major priorities.

Armey, R-Texas, included some surprising items in the House measure, some of which run directly counter to proposals Bush has made and were never recommended by any House committees.

The proposal to delay indefinitely the Dec. 31 deadline for all checked airline bags to be screened for explosives drew immediate fire from Rep. Jim Oberstar of Minnesota, senior Democrat on the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee.

"Now, you have a proposal that already undermines security," Oberstar said in an interview. "How can you establish a Homeland Security Department and undermine security by giving this open-ended extension?"

In a letter to colleagues, Oberstar said the new Transportation Security Administration -- which would become part of Homeland Security under Armey's bill -- has repeatedly assured Congress it can meet the deadline. Airports have been pressing for a temporary delay, even though they can individually get one if they cannot meet the deadline.

On the privacy issues, Bush proposed this week in his homeland security strategy that states be encouraged to develop uniform rules for issuing drivers' licenses as an anti-terrorism measure. To many conservatives and civil libertarians, that sounded too much like a national identification card that the government could use to track Americans.

Armey flatly rejected that notion, saying, "Authority to design and issue these cards shall remain with the states."

The bill also includes language that would prohibit programs such as the Justice Department's Operation TIPS. Supporters say the initiative is aimed at encouraging people with certain jobs -- those that take them into neighborhoods, along coasts and on public transit -- to watch for suspicious activity.

But Rachel King, legislative counsel with the American Civil Liberties Union, said it could "turn local cable or gas or electrical technicians into government-sanctioned peeping toms."

Even though administration officials said that was an exaggeration and the program is voluntary, Republican conservatives also criticized the idea as smacking of a government Big Brother. With opposition mounting, the postal service announced it would not participate.

"I think they did a good job on the privacy issues," said House Minority Whip Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., a select committee member.

The Armey legislation also would create a new "privacy officer" in the Homeland Security Department, which he said was a first ever established by law in a Cabinet agency. This person, Armey said, would "ensure technology research and new regulations from the department respect the civil liberties our citizens enjoy."

Other Democrats raised questions about language in the bill that they said could protect technology companies involved in certain kinds of anti-terrorism work from lawsuits. Democrats and Republicans have long been at odds over reducing liability from lawsuits.

There were other sticking points as well. GOP leaders and Democrats continued to negotiate whether to give Bush flexibility in making personnel decisions, which the president says he needs to respond quickly to new terrorist threats. Opponents say it could wreck civil service workers' protections and undermine union collective bargaining.

Key lawmakers also reached an agreement with the White House to give Bush some authority to transfer up to 2 percent of the money for two years -- with some strings attached -- within the agency instead of the 5 percent unilateral power he had sought.


On the Net: House select committee: hsc.house.gov

©2002 Associated Press  


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: armey; driverslicense; homelandsecurity; privacy; tips; tnlicensescandals

1 posted on 07/18/2002 7:38:53 PM PDT by RCW2001
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To: RCW2001
Sounds like they may have found somewhat reasonable middle ground. I'm sure DennisW will be along any time now to rant about 'losertarians' and their concern for the rights of the citizens, but that's ok..... debate keeps us honest right?
2 posted on 07/18/2002 7:47:39 PM PDT by Lloyd227
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To: RCW2001
On the privacy issues, Bush proposed this week in his homeland security strategy that states be encouraged to develop uniform rules for issuing drivers' licenses as an anti-terrorism measure. To many conservatives and civil libertarians, that sounded too much like a national identification card that the government could use to track Americans.

Armey flatly rejected that notion, saying, "Authority to design and issue these cards shall remain with the states."

Though I have some agreement on some of the issues, the standardized licenses are a good idea. Why shouldn't they have same "standards"? "To track Americans"? They can do that now with driver's licenses, that's simply misleading rhetoric.

I suspect the immigration and transportation lobbies are behind this, dividing the states, and buying out state governments, like buying out Tennessee to loosely issue Driver's licenses on suspect documents.

3 posted on 07/18/2002 7:48:06 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: toenail; backhoe
ping!
4 posted on 07/18/2002 7:48:09 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: RCW2001
"Privacy Officer"????

Does this not sound like a Orwellian term. The Department of Peace and Privacy is here to protect you. Please refrain from resistance. I think I'm going to barf.
5 posted on 07/18/2002 7:50:34 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: **TN License Scandals
Ping.
6 posted on 07/18/2002 7:51:05 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: RCW2001
Yep, I hope they will find some middleground. I'm going to tell you a true story about a man, a good friend of my father. He did two years in Vietnam on his own request, had plenty of medals and anyone who knows him would say he is a great American hero. The only problem is that my father's friend hates Republicans. The only Republican friend he can talk to for real is my father.
He owns a huge restaurant, and one time he threw a big party for Newt Gingrich. He raised funds for Newt, and he pretended that he was a good friend of the Republicans. And when asked by my father, "Why are you giving money to the Republicans and advising them?" he said, "If we wouldn't set them on a wild goose chase, these morons would stay in power for a long time. That way, I try to give them the most idiotic ideas and some of them grab them and run with them and in the end they will lose. This is a sure way to get rid of the Republican regime."
It sometimes appears to me that maybe my father's friend is giving advice to some Republicans.
7 posted on 07/18/2002 7:59:39 PM PDT by Tasha
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To: RCW2001
"Other Democrats raised questions about language in the bill that they said could protect technology companies involved in certain kinds of anti-terrorism work from lawsuits."

You mean like shooting down American missionaries in South America?
8 posted on 07/18/2002 8:07:59 PM PDT by APBaer
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
"I think I'm going to barf."

"This is the Borg Collective, Prepare to be assimilated. You will adapt to service us. Resistance (and Barfing) is futile."


9 posted on 07/18/2002 8:12:42 PM PDT by APBaer
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To: APBaer
Borg? Hmmm, I knew Algore wasn't quite human, I just never put 2+2 together.
10 posted on 07/18/2002 8:19:04 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
"I knew Algore wasn't quite human, I just never put 2+2 together"

No, No. For Al Gore, not 2+2, rather 2X4.
11 posted on 07/18/2002 8:21:27 PM PDT by APBaer
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To: APBaer
Do you know the difference between the Borg and Algore?

The Borg have a personality.
12 posted on 07/18/2002 8:23:53 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: RCW2001
too bad these honest republicans in the house like armey don't rule the republican party.
13 posted on 07/18/2002 8:28:18 PM PDT by Red Jones
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
Be careful with your political jokes or I'll turn you in to my Cable guy, who promises to come and get my list of subversives; he says he'll be here between 8AM and 7PM and I should just wait for him.
14 posted on 07/18/2002 8:31:14 PM PDT by APBaer
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To: APBaer
You mean like shooting down American missionaries in South America?

Hey the WOD is so damn important that if the CIA has to strafe an American baby or two, so be it. I'm sure that family was proud to die so that we could live drug free.

If it wasn't important would Colin Powell have been in Peru instead of Saudi Arabia on 911.

Top men are working hard to keep you safe!

15 posted on 07/18/2002 8:35:07 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: APBaer
I've already been told that I was on the list by the little old lady up the street because she thinks SUV's are really old Soviet tanks in disguise.
16 posted on 07/18/2002 8:35:58 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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