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Salt and Light in Schools
razormouth.com ^ | 7-17-02 | Jim Babka

Posted on 07/18/2002 2:09:35 PM PDT by serinde

My recent RazorMouth article on the Pledge of Allegiance was republished in two other venues, and I received a lot of angry email.

One Christian mother from Florida wrote to tell me that, because her sister home-schooled her children, she had prayerfully re-evaluated whether she should do the same. Both she and her husband felt that God was clearly leading them to leave their children in the government schools. In her words:

one of the paragraphs in your article really angered and offended me. You stated, "and those Christian parents who insist on deluding themselves about the wonders of public education will remain where they are." Mr. Babka, if I am being "deluded" about the education of my children, then it is God who is doing the deluding, because it is His voice to which we are listening.

She “shuddered to think of what our public school system, and the children in it, would be if ALL Christian parents pulled their children out.” She went on to point out the wonderful impact Christian kids have in government schools. Then she asked me, “How can my children be salt and light if they are doing their studies at the dining room table and not in a classroom full of kids who may have never heard the gospel?”

I understand her point, and appreciate her feeling that God is leading her, but we must remember that other parents likewise feel that God is also leading them to abandon the government schools. I would urge her to more prayer, because there are other issues to consider, and more than one way to provide salt and light to the world.

Young children are impressionable. They lack the experience for discernment. And it's a well-established fact that you only get back what you put in. The state has her children for more waking hours than she does. She can’t control whom they associate with, or what they hear, see, and read. Perhaps, because her children are teenagers, they’re already prepared to prosper in an atmosphere antagonistic to her values. But it seems risky to expect the same from an elementary school child.

More importantly, we must consider what would happen if all Christian parents removed their children from the government schools. I believe the system would fold for lack of business. Would this increase or decrease the salt and light we provide to the world? And what would be the state of our nation’s children?

Education would still continue, but now it would thrive—as it did before public schools were created 120 years ago (when having an 8th grade education meant that someone was ready for college). It would also cost far less and teenage pregnancy, drug abuse, and other social ills would almost certainly plummet. I believe this would add a great deal of salt and light to the world.

We also need to remember that schools teach according to their own institutional interests.

So, what should we expect government schools to teach?

My thoughtful correspondent from Florida believes she is able to control what goes on at her local government school, because she is heavily involved in it. But she is just one person, and the stories of school districts thumbing their nose at parents are legion. Just because it's never happened to her doesn't mean it won’t. And given the power of teachers unions, does she believe she could force the school board to change its mind (especially in a major city)?

Now I'm not disputing that her children can be a godly example in their government school, but I do believe that the costs and the benefits don’t add up to a net increase for salt and light in the world. Quite simply, I don’t believe children are qualified to be missionaries, and they are therefore more likely to be corrupted by the godless environment of the government schools than to effectively change that environment.

Missionaries must meet certain qualifications before they're sent into a mission field. Children do not meet those qualifications. I would like my Florida correspondent, and other concerned parents like her, to seriously consider whether their children will be able to detect when they’re being brainwashed by environmentalism, drug-war propaganda, relative value systems, sex-ed, and diversity training.

Government schools naturally teach children to trust government, and learning to trust government means learning to question parental authority, worship Mother Earth, worship the state (hence the Pledge of Allegiance), and accept as normal that Heather Has Two Mommies.

It seems clear to me that home-schooled and Christian-schooled children can provide more salt and light to the world than government-schooled Christian kids for the simple reason that they are being trained all day, every day, to do exactly that.

Finally, we need to recognize that government schools are based on compulsion. They confiscate the wealth of people without children, and even worse, those who have kids but who are not using the system. In other words, Christian parents who feel God is leading them to teach their children elsewhere are forced to pay twice! The compulsion and confiscation of the government schools violates everything we Christians are supposed to believe in.

How can we end this immoral system? If all Christian parents would remove their children then the system would collapse, and the money confiscated by the government schools would instead flow toward private, and godlier alternatives. This sea-change would be a sign that Christians have truly accepted their calling to be salt and light, and that God has jurisdiction over both the rearing of our children and our pocketbooks.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: chrisitanity; schools
More importantly, we must consider what would happen if all Christian parents removed their children from the government schools. I believe the system would fold for lack of business. Would this increase or decrease the salt and light we provide to the world? And what would be the state of our nation’s children?

Education would still continue, but now it would thrive—as it did before public schools were created 120 years ago (when having an 8th grade education meant that someone was ready for college). It would also cost far less and teenage pregnancy, drug abuse, and other social ills would almost certainly plummet. I believe this would add a great deal of salt and light to the world.

1 posted on 07/18/2002 2:09:35 PM PDT by serinde
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To: serinde
There have been public schools in this country since before it was an independent country. Where did this date of 120 years ago come from?
2 posted on 07/18/2002 2:12:35 PM PDT by RonF
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To: serinde
She ?shuddered to think of what our public school system, and the children in it, would be if ALL Christian parents pulled their children out.? She went on to point out the wonderful impact Christian kids have in government schools.

They most likely would form Christian private schools that would put the current system to shame.

And I'm not a Christian.

3 posted on 07/18/2002 2:15:01 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: serinde
I understand her point, and appreciate her feeling that God is leading her, but we must remember that other parents likewise feel that God is also leading them to abandon the government schools. I would urge her to more prayer...

In other words, since you think God is leading you in a different direction than I think He's leading me, YOU must be wrong.

One of the silliest things is for one person to assume that THEY know what God wants for everyone else in matters that are not directly addressed in the Bible.

For most Christians, following God means finding they what they want to do and then claiming God's blessing on their own plans.

4 posted on 07/18/2002 2:24:06 PM PDT by Eagle Eye
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To: serinde
Bump for later
5 posted on 07/18/2002 2:32:31 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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One of the silliest things is for one person to assume that THEY know what God wants for everyone else in matters that are not directly addressed in the Bible.

God knows that government schools should not even exist...

God knows it is not the government's job to educate children...

God knows that the government is a complete and total failure when it comes to education...

God knows that it is the government schools to blame for the unbelievably astounding ignorance of the American people which enables socialism to rule and destroy their lives...

God also knows that the only valid reason for government to exist at all is to protect the rights of the individual...

God so much wishes humans would know, comprehend, understand and apply these basic tenants of reality...

6 posted on 07/18/2002 2:43:38 PM PDT by Ferris
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To: serinde
Missionaries must meet certain qualifications before they're sent into a mission field. Children do not meet those qualifications.

Bingo.

WHen Jesus said "Go unto all the world and preach the gospel," he was speaking to adults, not children.

By using thier logic, we should send our children out to join street gangs and witness to pimps and prostitutes.

7 posted on 07/18/2002 2:57:54 PM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: RonF
A tiny minority of children were in some kind of government school before the Civil War. But the idea of corraling virtually all children into government schools was imported from PRUSSIA in the 1840's, by the socialists and atheists of Boston, precisely for the purpose of severing sons' close relationships with their fathers', creating illiteracy, destroying the family, and creating a mass of docile, insecure (i.e., afraid of being FIRED), barely literate proles who would make more compliant factory workers and cannon fodder. Check out the writings of John Taylor Gatto if you don't believe this capsule history.
8 posted on 07/18/2002 5:54:08 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: serinde
How does tripe like this end up on FR?
9 posted on 07/18/2002 6:25:29 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: Arthur McGowan
Hm. Mr. Gatto's writings looks like the usual pastiche of out-of-context quotes pasted together with paranoid ramblings that conspiracy buffs usually resort to. Try reading Horace Mann's original 12 reports to the Massachusetts State Board of Education. He was born in my hometown, Franklin, Massachusetts (a fairly conservative town, by the way, mostly blue collar or farmers when I was there) and is considered the father of public education. Do a search on Horace Mann; you'll find his stuff, if you can get past the web sites of the myriad schools nationwide that are named after him.

Reading these, you'll be reading the thoughts and work of the man who actually did something about public education, (using ideas that still work today), instead of dealing with someone making up paranoia to gain notoriety.
10 posted on 07/18/2002 9:22:18 PM PDT by RonF
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To: AdamSelene235
Why not? It’s what the Catholics did. With vouchers surviving court challenges a separate private Christian school system is a very realistic solution. I do wonder about the effect of essentially several school networks operating in our nation. Part of the unspoken goal of public education was to create a common culture based on shared ideals and experience. Will separate school systems create states within our State? Only time will tell.
11 posted on 07/18/2002 9:30:52 PM PDT by Gerfang
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To: RonF
The fact that Mann "did something" is what I object to. There's nothing necessarily admirable about "doing something." Stalin "did something." Mao "did something."

Mann was a socialist, and succeeded in socializing education. That is objectionable in principle. I would object to the existence of government schools if Horace Mann had never existed, for the same reasons that many objected to government schools BEFORE Horace Mann existed.

12 posted on 07/18/2002 9:48:15 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Old Professer
How does tripe like this end up on FR?

Exactly what in this article do you consider tripe?

13 posted on 07/19/2002 6:37:25 AM PDT by serinde
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To: RonF
There weren't many public schools before the War. Fact is the only place the general government took it upon itself to establish public education was in the Northwest Ordinance and that was for a limited area and for a specific cause. I would feel it safe to say that over 95% of any form of federally funded education did not start until after 1867
14 posted on 07/19/2002 6:42:00 AM PDT by billbears
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To: Arthur McGowan
"Mann was a socialist"

This opinion is based on what statements in Mann's writings?
15 posted on 07/19/2002 7:18:52 AM PDT by RonF
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To: billbears
I'll grant that Federal involvement in public education is an issue separate from the overall issues of whether or not public education is desirable, and how it can be improved.
16 posted on 07/19/2002 7:20:07 AM PDT by RonF
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To: Gerfang
Part of the unspoken goal of public education was to create a common culture based on shared ideals and experience.

Public schools are homogenization factorys that specialize in the production of bland conformists. Homogenization leads to single points of failure in the system.

17 posted on 07/21/2002 1:39:41 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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