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To: Stand Watch Listen
Weese is the loon. The International Darksky Association does not want to prevent you from illuminating your driveway. They want to prevent you from illuminating the sky. There is a difference. Efficient lighting that directs its light down on what should be illuminated is the key. Light that goes up into the sky does not help you see your way or discourage burglars.
2 posted on 07/18/2002 7:57:22 AM PDT by spqrzilla9
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To: spqrzilla9
Weese is correct. The intent here is to kill capitalism and control people. Regulating light is an excuse.
7 posted on 07/18/2002 8:02:19 AM PDT by LenS
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To: spqrzilla9
"Weese is the loon. The International Darksky Association does not want to prevent you from illuminating your driveway."

Hey, give the guy a break. Being from a D.C. suburb, he thinks night sky is orange.

11 posted on 07/18/2002 8:06:38 AM PDT by OBAFGKM
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And light just stops when it hits the ground...? No it bounces right back up. This is a cash cow, replace all those lights yeah yeah...
14 posted on 07/18/2002 8:14:17 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: spqrzilla9
Weese is the loon. The International Darksky Association does not want to prevent you from illuminating your driveway.

Yes! The organization is primarily astronomers and illumination engineers. The focus of the engineers is elimination of light trespass (e.g., blasting lights into neighbors' windows all night), glare reduction (e.g., filling stations lit up like the sun that wipe out the dark adaptation of passing motorists), and energy conservation. Astronomers benefit from all of this because it means fewer megawatts into the sky.

It should be noted that environmental wackos are generally not involved in this issue.

I am a libertian "with a lower-case L" who understands that there really are some things you don't want your neighbors doing. This is not a matter of right vs. left, but simply a matter of common courtesy, awareness, and common sense.

There is a need for national and/or state codes, since most people who are responsible for designing outdoor lighting have no background in illumination engineering, are not aware of recommendations by engineering standards bodies, and can usually be counted on to do the opposite of these recommendations. Our city engineer, with whom I have spoken, is an example of this. In fact, the worst sources of light pollution and light trespass in this area are installations run by the city government and school boards, not private business.

39 posted on 07/18/2002 9:51:41 AM PDT by snarkpup
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To: spqrzilla9
Here is a link to the introductory page for the IDA's Lighting Code Handbook. This has a lot of information about fixture selection and other outdoor illumination engineering topics as well as a discussion of why everyone benefits from doing this right.
48 posted on 07/18/2002 11:28:10 AM PDT by snarkpup
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