Bar business sparks back up

The Lawrence Eagle Tribune ^ | Thursday, July 11, 2002 | By Jason Tait

[Great Dane]

Does that dang puff list thing work?

It does.

Some people has a change of getting back in business, whereas our Councillors still insist that nobody is loosing money........ an outright lie, one councillor has toured the bars and admits the law has been devastating, says in hindsight they should have opted for a compromise.

[Madame Dufarge]

Just another altruist, going into business not to make a profit, but to serve "the public."

It is to laugh.

[NeoCaveman]

All this reveals is that the losers who smoke also drink. Who woulda thunk it ?

Count me in with the losers, I mean lovers of liberty, freedom, and of course property rights

[Great Dane]

Non-smokers like to use the loser-mantra, makes them feel superior, and who are we to deflate their ego.

[Madame Dufarge]

All this reveals is that the losers who smoke also drink. Who woulda thunk it ?

Present company excepted, of course, brain-dead collectivists?

[Arioch7]

And those are the ones that go out of business... LOL! Serves them right!

[metesky]

Ah, if you only knew just how bad it was in Mass.

Ah, but I do. I lived the first 53 years of my life in Eastern Massachusetts, with a couple of time outs for school and work in Cailifornistan.

Born in Boston City Hospital in '44, went to grammar school at the Thomas Gardener School in Alston, Mother was from Haverhill so I ended up going to Haverhill High, bought a house on the Cape in '69 and lived there until the Big Escape in '97, when the bride and I absconded to Maine.

Haverhill? I even know these guys in the article and still have people there. One of my cousins is the fire chief.

[RWG]

This happened in British Columbia and the bars across the border in the US did a boom business. Then BC relaxed the statute the same as in this story and business in BC returned to normal.

[metesky]

But...but how could it be? Accepted wisdom (propaganda) is that smoking bans help bars and restaurants.

[Arioch7]

I see that you do know. You know, I love my state but it is very diificult to live here. Sometimes, I just cant believe the amount of left wing nonsense.

It does provide me with amusement though.

"The Big Escape"? LOL!!! God bless you. If it were not for the massive commuting problems the massholes have brought to NH, I would live there now. My business is in the Boston area and I can not leave it or relocate it so I am stuck.

I call the libs moving up north the "Human Plague" and they move down to Florida to.

I can not move that far up and so far the MAssholes have been trying to turn NH into "Little Massachusetts," it makes me mad. As my sister said "Why do THEY have to go up there, I wanted to go to a Republican state!

NH is not lost yet, but in the last ten years, I am sure you can notice the difference as well.

What the heck is it with Mass, this is the birthplace of the revolution for gods sake!!!

Oh well, sorry for the rant, sometimes I just can not help it. :D

[metesky]

People from the Merrimack Valley (Newburyport, Amesbury, Merrimack, Groveland, Haverhill, Lawrence, Andover, Methuen and Lowell) are "born Democrat" if you know what I mean (Marty Meehan, for cryin' out loud!) and have been moving to southern NH since the late fifties.

They moved to get away from the regulations and high taxes, yet started beating the drum for municipal services as soon as they got there.

In the late fifties and early sixties Salem, NH was the race track, a bowling alley and a Mom and Pop convenience store that was overjoyed to see three carloads of high school football players pull up and order ten cases of Black Label.

Look at Rt. 28 in Salem now. Ugh!

Oh well...

The mantra of Eastern Massachusetts DemocRats: "One hand washes the other."

[Arioch7]

I hear you. I ask my liberal friends WHY they want to move up north and they say "It costs less," and then I ask them why they seek to recreate the same situation up there.

They dont know how to respond. My answer is if you love all of the services in Mass, then you should not move to an area which has none and then demand them. They unknowingly recreate the SAME thing.

It kind of shows you how deluded some people actually are.

As far as "One hand wahes the other," I could not agree with you more. I dont believe I ever will see a state that is corrupt as Massachusetts. It is my belief that the city of Boston CAN NOT be suatain itself economically without state and federal funds. In my mind, this means it is a failure, yet they LOVE the funds rolling in. Look at the Big Dig... third world countries have a lower rate of cost inflation for gods sake!

[metesky]

Look at the Big Dig...

The Tip O'Neil Memorial Goodbye Kiss, $14 billion and counting.

[tahiti]

You made the following statement, as general principles:

"...I mean lovers of liberty, freedom, and of course property rights."

But let us be more precise and cite the constitutional basis for the correctness of those general principles.

"...liberty, freedom..."

The constitutional basis:

Amendment IX:

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to DENY OR DISPARAGE others, (the right to smoke) retained by the people."

"...and of course property rights."

The constitutional basis:

Amendment V:

"...nor shall private property be taken (bar/restaurant profits) for public use (for the supposed health concerns) without just compensation."

And if anyone is questioning the jurisdiction of the U.S. Constitution within municipal boundaries, then see Gilleo v City of Ladue, 1992.