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Bug for bug: Prosecutors Hire Their Own Entomologist: (Tell Feldman's Expert to BUZZ OFF!!)
Court TV ^ | July 17, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 07/16/2002 10:37:13 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: connectthedots
(1) There so far is no one that has testified that Damon left the house.

That is why I said reportedly. And in my scenario, it doesn't matter if he did, or just went into his bedroom and turned on the TV. Either way Danielle could have easily run away.

You are correct, if he did leave the house, it would leave the children by themselves.

It still doesn't answer why, if it was DW that snuck into the house, how he did so without leaving a single TRACE of EVIDENCE.

61 posted on 07/17/2002 11:45:38 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
I like it, except that I just can't see a 7-year-old girl wandering off in the dark. I have an 11-year-old boy and he won't even stay in our backyard by himself after dark. (Maybe I just have a weird kid.)
62 posted on 07/17/2002 11:46:22 AM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: connectthedots
Could be.
63 posted on 07/17/2002 11:46:29 AM PDT by mommya
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To: connectthedots
At the least, it would cast even more suspicion on the prosecution's case because it would be another lie exposed.

You are correct here too. It would be to defense's benefit to have a witness to this.

Again, for my hypothesis, it makes no difference whether Damon left the house or not.

64 posted on 07/17/2002 11:47:13 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Oh, yeah - where did the replacement Layla come in? She was there the next day when Dorie plucked her.
65 posted on 07/17/2002 11:48:30 AM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: UCANSEE2
How did he get a new dog by morning that was barking on the 911 call and that a neighbor saw that day?
66 posted on 07/17/2002 11:48:51 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: UCANSEE2
If you belive the pizza party people - Keith said the dog jumped on him that night.
67 posted on 07/17/2002 11:50:04 AM PDT by mommya
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To: UCANSEE2
You are correct here too. It would be to defense's benefit to have a witness to this.

connectthedots, ya know.LOL

68 posted on 07/17/2002 11:50:46 AM PDT by connectthedots
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To: small_l_libertarian
I like it, except that I just can't see a 7-year-old girl wandering off in the dark. I have an 11-year-old boy and he won't even stay in our backyard by himself after dark. (Maybe I just have a weird kid.)

I agree with you 99%. The other 1% is this.

Your child hasn't repeatedly RUN AWAY (I assume)

You didn't just kill your family dog out of HATE/ANGER and have your child find it.

IF a child found this, might they run, anywhere, and not be in a state of mind to notice whether it is dark/light until they stop running?

What if Damon came home, or came inside after killing the dog, and when Danielle found out, he punished her? Or hit her? Might she run off ?

REMEMBER: Pre 02/02 Layla, barkless,peeing, jumping on everyone, POST 02/02 Layla, barking, non-peeing, calm quiet .

69 posted on 07/17/2002 11:53:59 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: connectthedots; All

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70 posted on 07/17/2002 11:54:15 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: UCANSEE2
Good points. Let me think on them for a little while.
71 posted on 07/17/2002 11:56:50 AM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: small_l_libertarian; rolling_stone
To that I don't have an answer. Others had suggested that the dog breeder be checked with to see if he had any late night dealings with Damon. I also would think that the boys would notice if it was a different 'LAYLA' ,but maybe not.

I wish I had the answer, and I am thinking about it.

It is, I believe, the only FLAW in this theory.

Ironic coincidence, the SEARCHERS at Dehesa Rd. did not find Danielle's body by the smell. They were attracted to the rotting carcass of a DOG that was nearby.

72 posted on 07/17/2002 11:58:43 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
My kid probably wouldn't notice (at least not right away) if we replaced the dogs. Heck, we could probably even replace them with zebras and he wouldn't notice for a while.

Seems to me, though, that if the dog breeder had a late-night transaction with Damon and then learns that Damon's kid went missing the same night, the breeder would contact the police.

I think maybe I'm on your side of the fence now about a kid running away even in the dark if she's scared enough, but how did he replace the dog so fast?

And, yes, I know about the dead dog at Dehesa - definitely tends to support your theory.

I still think, though, that she may have gone missing much earlier in the evening than we have been told.

(Lots of thinking to do.)

73 posted on 07/17/2002 12:04:23 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: small_l_libertarian
I still think, though, that she may have gone missing much earlier in the evening than we have been told.

What about much earlier in the morning?

Maybe she got up early and went looking for the missing Layla?

Does anyone recall where Layla stayed when the VD's stayed at the neighbors house that first night?

74 posted on 07/17/2002 12:07:10 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: UCANSEE2
Pretty interesting theory. Aligns with the "bark/barkless" curiousity and explains to some extent why the van Dams gave out that "Damon kicked the dog" story.

But it's a real stretch.

75 posted on 07/17/2002 12:11:18 PM PDT by bvw
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To: RnMomof7
Does anyone else wonder if there is a connection beside me?

Nope. Westerfield was in jail when Samantha was kidnapped.

76 posted on 07/17/2002 12:11:54 PM PDT by Steve0113
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To: Steve0113
She means does anyone else think that the guy who murdered Samantha also murdered Danielle, not Westerfield.
77 posted on 07/17/2002 12:12:50 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: UCANSEE2
Wonder if that is why DVD used the dog so much in his nightime activities?

Did any of the VD friends happen to get a dog from the same breeder, with the same mother?

78 posted on 07/17/2002 12:14:32 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: small_l_libertarian
She means does anyone else think that the guy who murdered Samantha also murdered Danielle, not Westerfield.

Sorry, I misunderstood.

I would doubt it. Samantha's murderer was much more brazen than Danielle's seems to have been.

79 posted on 07/17/2002 12:15:57 PM PDT by Steve0113
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To: small_l_libertarian
I think he knew that...
80 posted on 07/17/2002 12:18:00 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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