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To: Shryke
Really? I found some, though not all, of the expanded questions to be even more disturbing than the condensed versions in the article above. Not just as a Christian. As someone who is put off by such transparent and desperate dishonesty.

(You had to make me go and post this stuff, didn't you?)

Jesus Lived an Alternate Lifestyle

Relationships of Jesus in the gospels differ greatly from the contemporary so-called nuclear family. Jesus loved Lazarus, Mary and Martha. What drew Jesus to this very non-traditional family group of a bachelor brother living with two spinster sisters? Two barren women and a eunuch are Jesus' adult family of choice. Are we to assume they were all celibate heterosexuals? What if Mary and Martha were not sisters but called each other "sister" as did most lesbian couples throughout recorded history?

Ruth and Naomi

The Book of Ruth is a romantic novel but not about romance between Ruth and Boaz. Naomi is actually the central character, and Ruth is the "redeemer/hero." Boaz' relationship with Ruth, far from being romantic, is a matter of family duty and property.

This story contains the most moving promise of relational fidelity between two persons in all of the bible: "And Ruth said, 'Entreat me not to leave thee, or to return from following after thee: for whether thou goest, I will go; and where thou lodgest, I will lodge: thy people shall be my people, and thy God my God". (Ruth 1:16)

Although used in heterosexual marriage ceremonies for years, this is a vow between two women! When their husbands die in battle, Ruth makes this vow to Naomi, her mother-in-law. Ruth marries Boaz, a close relative, and redeems Naomi's place in her own family, also bearing a child for Naomi. Did Ruth and Naomi have a lesbian relationship? There's no way to know, but it is clear the two women had a lifelong, passionate, committed relationship celebrated in Scripture.

Homosexuality and the Bible: Some Important Questions

Is that all there is? A few prophecies about barrenness and eunuchs and only two same-sex couples? There is more, and scholars need to explore the possibilities:

Are the eunuchs in the Joseph story (Genesis 39-45) and the Book of Esther also gay, residing in royal courts, and rescuing God's leaders?

In the parable of the woman who has lost a coin (Luke 15), she had ten and lost one. Are gays and lesbians a lost coin joyfully rediscovered in our day? Gays and lesbians are now estimated to be ten percent of the population.

Are they a tithe of humanity? Are they the leaven in the loaf of every culture?

A centurion petitions Jesus for the healing of a servant who is dear to him (Luke 7). The Greek word in Matthew 8 is pais meaning "slave boy", which commonly described a homosexual relationship in those times. Why did Jesus praise the faith of the centurion but not condemn his lifestyle? [sometimes a slave is just a slave, that's why]

Paul, the apostle, had no sympathy for heterosexuals who couldn't control their sexual desires. At the same time, his stormy relational life was centered around men, such as Timothy, Barnabas and Silas. Were his tirades against co-workers and churches, and his tireless missionary zeal partly a way to suppress his homosexuality?

In the story of the rich young ruler (Mark 10), "Jesus looking upon him loved him." What is the connection of embodied spirituality and this "love" for a needy stranger? What studies have been done about the eight times Jesus was said to "love" someone? How was Jesus' particular "love for individuals related to his sexuality?

What of Lydia (Acts 16), the independent, Gentile businesswoman, seller of purple and the first European Christian? There is no mention of her husband, or children, yet she is noted to have led a women's group to whom Paul preached. Was Lydia a lesbian? [no doubt about it, these people have very dirty minds. Is there nothing that isn't about sex with them?]

the color purple is often used in connection with royalty, or suffering and passion, or transformation and magic. It is the color which Jesus wore to the cross. Does the color purple also have gay and lesbian connotations in the bible and in Christian liturgical tradition?

78 posted on 07/16/2002 8:14:26 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart

In the parable of the woman who has lost a coin (Luke 15), she had ten and lost one. Are gays and lesbians a lost coin joyfully rediscovered in our day? Gays and lesbians are now estimated to be ten percent of the population.

Are they a tithe of humanity? Are they the leaven in the loaf of every culture?

 
Oh. My. God.
 
BWAHAHA. Talk about FReepin' delusional...
 
(your FReeper handle says it all...)

100 posted on 07/16/2002 9:22:34 AM PDT by AnnaZ
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To: hellinahandcart
I'm sorry but I can't read all of your post. I keep laughing out loud and drawing stares from the people around me.

The SADs will reach for any straw to get approval won't they.

GSA(P)

105 posted on 07/16/2002 9:55:02 AM PDT by John O
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To: hellinahandcart
the color purple is often used in connection with royalty, or suffering and passion, or transformation and magic. It is the color which Jesus wore to the cross. Does the color purple also have gay and lesbian connotations in the bible and in Christian liturgical tradition?

Wasn't it the color for royalty? The soldiers placed it on him in mockery. He probably wore what the Roman soldiers forced him to wear.

As to your other comments, I will have to give them some more thought.

Since it entered my consciousness, I can't understand why John put his head on Jesus' breast. Maybe that culture was not as uptight about such things as we are, I would like a rational explanation for it.

106 posted on 07/16/2002 9:56:32 AM PDT by Aliska
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