US planning to recruit one in 24 Americans as citizen spies

The last thing I want is the furnace repair man coming into my house and seeing a book on the coffee table suggesting that the sitting President is a traitor (like one or two of the books I had on my coffee table when Clinton was President).

Think, everyone. There will one day be a Democrat in the Presidency. Do you want all of these new security powers to fall into the hands of a Democrat? Can you say the words "President Hillary Clinton"? That thought used to turn my stomach. Now it scares the sh!t out of me.

Reichstag Fire They who will not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Recent events raise ghosts of the past.

OUTSTANDING POST!! BRAVO... and BTTT!

It scares me that every personal feud could be turned - literally - into a federal case by one of these domestic spies. Maybe the victim would be cleared eventually, but his life could be made into a living hell for a long time and the stain of the accusation would never fade completely.

Lots of people on this forum would report you or I in a New York heartbeat if they knew who we were.

Currybot and gang yep( you have criticized our glorious leader to the concentration camp with you "ARBEIT MACHT FREI").

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I haven't been here (FR) long, but I distinctly recall much enthusiasm in those threads for a program that would be a step up from calling the FBI and having them brush you off.

We'll all call TIPS and they can brush us off.

"...The thought police would get him just the same. He had committed—would have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper—the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever. You might dodge successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or later they were bound to get you." —pg 19

"People simply disappeared, always during the night. Your name was removed from the registers, every record of everything you had ever done was wiped out, your one-time existence was denied and then forgotten. You were abolished, annhilated: vaporized was the usual word." —pg 20

"Nearly all children nowadays were horrible. What was worst of all was that by means of such organizations as the Spies they were systematically turned into ungovernable little savages, and yet this produced in them no tendency whatever to rebel against the discipline of the Party. On the contrary, they adored the Party and everything connected with it… All their ferocity was turned outwards, against the enemies of the State, against foreigners, traitors, saboteurs, thought-criminals. It was almost normal for people over thirty to be frightened of their own children." —pg 24

"Thoughtcrime does not entail death: thoughtcrime is death." —pg 27

"And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed—if all records told the same tale—then the lie passed into history and became truth. 'Who controls the past' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.'" —pg 32

"Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date. In this way every prediction made by the Party could be shown by documentary evidence to have been correct; nor was any item of news, or any expression of opinion, which conflicted with the needs of the moment, ever allowed to remain on record. All history was a palimpsest, scraped clean and reinscribed exactly as often as was necessary." —pg 36

"Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?… Has it ever occurred to your, Winston, that by the year 2050, at the very latest, not a single human being will be alive who could understand such a conversation as we are having now?…The whole climate of thought will be different. In fact, there will be no thought, as we understand it now. Orthodoxy means not thinking—not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness." —Syme, pg 46-47

"It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could igve you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself—anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face… was itself a punishable offense. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: facecrime…" —pg 54

"Your worst enemy, he reflected, was your nervous system. At any moment the tension inside you was liable to translate itself into some visible symptom." —pg 56

"If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there, in those swarming disregarded masses, eighty-five percent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated." —pg 60

"…to do anything that suggested a taste for solitude, even to go for a walk by yourself, was always slightly dangerous. There wasa word for it in Newspeak: ownlife…" —pg 70

"In Oceania at the present day, Science, in the old sense, has almost ceased to exist. In Newspeak there is no word for 'Science.' The empirical method of thought, on which all the scientific achievements of the past were founded, is opposed to the most fundamental principles of Ingsoc." —pg 159

"The citizen of Oceania is not allowed to know anything of the tenets of the other two philosphies, but he is taught to execrate them as barbarous outrages upon morality and common sense. Actually, the three philosophies are barely distinguishable…..." —pg 162

From the TIPS propacandy (intentional spelling) site.

"A national system for concerned workers to report suspicious activity."

Not
concerned
citizens.

Not
concerned
Americans.

Concerned workers.

How very proletariat.

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