LAX killer said cash was short

The Orange County Register ^ | July 14, 2002 | ALDRIN BROWN and BILL RAMS

[dennisw]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/715888/posts

[hellinahandcart]

My point is it appears he was a freelancer.

Haven't the Islamist websites been calling for "freelancers" the world over to rise up against the US and Israel (and Western civilization in general)? What's the difference if he was a freelancer? He's still a terrorist. I am way past the point of annoyance that our "authorities" refuse to call him one.

One more reason to target El-Al--when martyrdom is what you seek, you have to die. Sure, he could have shot up a synagogue if he'd wanted to kill more people, but there would be no certainty of meeting an armed response (particularly not in California). The point wasn't to get away with it, but to die as a martyr. To die in the "right" way, the way the Jihadists would approve, and to set that example for others.

[Woodkirk]

So let's see, in the Muslim mind, when things aren't going your way, instead of selling some assets and returning home to Egypt, or taking some pills, or getting drunk, or just jumping off your apartment building roof, you decide to load up your guns, drive down to El Al, and kill some Jews, and hopefully the granddaughter of an Israeli official who happens to be there. Wow. Gosh we need more of these time bombs in our country. Open another visa express.

Give me a break. If this is how Muslims commit suicide or handle disappointment, then every Muslim in America is a Hadayet -in-waiting, a terrorist waiting to happen, and they need to be shown the way back home ----

[kjenerette]

Cash short....Among the myriad theories being explored is whether Hadayet simply committed a spectacular murder-suicide, motivated by despondency over some facet of his life..."

Lets see...hmmm...don't the Saudi's offer CASH incentives or REBATEs for suicide/murder of JEWS? Seems there are dozens of happy beneficiaries in the West Bank...could this Islamic 'Kill for Jews for Kwick Kash$$$ Incorporated' enterprise be spreading into Egypt?

Follow the money...

[kjenerette]

Should read...

'Kill Jews for Kwick Kash$$$ Incorporated'

typo...sorry

[Catspaw]

If the goal was to do maximun damage and make the largest number of people feel vulnerable to terrorism, why pick Al El?

Shooting at a Jewish daycare center has already been done, remember Larry?

[TLBSHOW]

Interesting that this terrorist is dead!

[Andy Ross]

Why the airport? The El Al check-in desk is one place in the world that you could definetly find Jews to kill.

His goal was to kill Jews, not "anyone at all." This nut was specifically out to kill Jews. He could find them easily at the El Al desk, so he went to the El Al desk.

It's a very high profile target, and a relative of Shimon Peres was nearby at the time. The only thing these terrorists love to do more than kill Jews, is to kill well-known Jews.

Are you getting the message yet? He was a terrorist who was out to kill Jews. Say it to yourself a few times.

Andrew

[norton]

Is this a good time to add that the act tied up air traffic, ground traffic, business, and a few thousand lives for most of a day?

That even killing two people at an El Al ticket counter would have economic impact on El Al and thus on Israel?

That disrupting US air transport might include scaring more people away from air travel?

That the average muslim probably believes that Americans can be made to avoid Jews and their businesses if they sense a threat of random violence toward them?

Also, I had not previously considered the possibility that his family could quietly collect a bonus for the killings since they are conveniently outside our grasp. Willing to bet mama don't return to the USA and it would be interesting to learn how much of any value had been left behind when she went on 'vacation'.

Finally, someone indicated wonder about terrorist links growing into Egypt.
Regardless of the policies or intentions of the Egyptian government, sentiment within the populace includes a good deal of support to the bad-guys. Check out some of the 9/11 personalities and many of the current detainees...Egypt is a common source.

[norton]

Thought I'd add this one copied from another section of FR:

"[Israel Insider, 7/14/2002]Israel's consul general in New York, Alon Pinkas, was denied a seat on a National Airlines flight from San Francisco when the plane's pilot screamed at security personnel, "I don't care what you do, he will not get onto my plane." The pilot said that Pinkas's presence would endanger all the other passengers on the flight."

Still wondering why the limo-man wanted to shoot up an Israeli airline inside the USA?

[daviddennis]

I find it puzzling that many freepers seem to be saying "It's terrorism, so we don't need to conduct an investigation". Surely it should be obvious that we do in fact need to conduct an investigation, and the best investigations are done with an open mind. Even if it seems obvious this was a terrorist attack, we still need to collect and evaluate all the evidence we have. So let's give the investigators a bit of slack here.

That being said, LarryLied's contention that this isn't an organized attack seems a bit silly. I think it's worth noting that this was an attack on LAX. As you probably remember, we managed to foil an earlier attack on LAX on new years day (was it 2000 or 2001? Not important for now).

These people tend to pick a target and obsess over it. Consider the World Trade Center - there was an attack in 1993 that only wounded it, and then it collapsed in 2001. Now we have a second attack on LAX, on a highly symbolic date.

There's no doubt that the quality and professionalism of their attacks has all but collapsed since September 11th. Just compare the shoe bomber with Mohammed Atta and you'll get the idea.

If you look at it that way, then this attack fits very nicely into a far less effective post 11 September Al Queda - individual attackers trying in their clumsy, pathetic way to make a difference.

D

[justlurking]

He was upset a year or two ago about $1800 ? Paid late or reduced to $50 max by Federal Law.?

I think that was supposed to be an example of how was teetering on the edge of bankruptcy.

But, he was the merchant, not the consumer. When the company holding the credit card certified that the charges were fraudulent, the credit card company simply issued a chargeback against his account (deducting it from money he hadn't yet received).

The credit card company protects the merchant from people who can't pay -- they assume the risk of extending credit to the consumer and charge the merchant 1%-5% for the service. But, that doesn't protect the merchant from fraudulent use.

[jwfiv]

I think this murdering bastard was a probe, and I expect the evil demons in the sleeper cell who gave him the ok to do what he did now have on video tape, complete with aerial views, a pretty good idea of what happens during an evacuation of that terminal, where the crowd goes, how the security responds.

The next hit at the airport will take advantage of this information, and not be so small scale.

He was no 'free-lancer".

[DonQ]

Originally, his widow claimed it was El Al Airlines that owed him money (as if the Israeli airline had deliberately hired an Arabic chauffeur) but now we find out it was a completely unrelated business that owed him money.

It is possible that Hadayet was willing to die in a suicidal attack in the hope, or expectation, that his widow would get the enormous bounty that Saddam, et al., are paying to families of suicide bombers.

In any case, Hadayet had to pass by the counters for Lufthansa, Aeoflot, and several other foreign airlines before he got to the airport's one Israeli counter and opened fire. How could that possibly indicate a terrorist motive?!

[Auntie Mame]

Thanks everyone for your responses on this thread.

No one has touched on what I found most interesting:

Hadayet was trying to collect $1,848 incurred by [Mamolo] a former executive of BDS Marketing in Irvine, who illegally charged three limousine rides using a company credit card,

BDS managers were surprised to learn that Mamolo, who introduced Hadayet to the company's executives, was on parole in another state, Ham said. Authorities told BDS officials that Mamolo was being held somewhere in California for parole violations. Ham didn't know how Mamolo came to know Hadayet.

So this felon, Mamolo, an executive in this firm, defrauded the company, and was the person who referred Hadayet to the company! Who is Mamolo? What was his relationship with Hadayet? He was on parole in another state--what state? What did he do to be on parole?

[Fred Mertz]

Hadayet's wife and children had traveled to Egypt in late June.

Disinfo alert!

I'm sure his wife and kids traveled on the $199 special group rate [/sarcasm].

[justlurking]

So this felon, Mamolo, an executive in this firm, defrauded the company, and was the person who referred Hadayet to the company! Who is Mamolo? What was his relationship with Hadayet? He was on parole in another state--what state? What did he do to be on parole?

I noticed the same thing. It may have been coincidental. Or, the two may have engaged in a common scam -- person uses purchase authority to "buy" a non-existent product/service, then splits the proceeds with the "seller".

[dennisw]

I think the same way you do in your post. This Islamakazi killed Jews and disrupted commerce. Allah would say he done good except that at least 10 Jews should be killed per "martyrdom operation".

For sure his family will be getting some moolah for killing Jews. From Iraq and Saudi etc. They get bonus points since this was done in America and involved air travel.

[dennisw]

I noticed the same thing. It may have been coincidental. Or, the two may have engaged in a common scam -- person uses purchase authority to "buy" a non-existent product/service, then splits the proceeds with the "seller".
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Was thinking the same thing. I believe the woman who ran this company paid off this Egyptian sleeze because she felt threatened. He bugged her continually for the money he though was rightfully his. She should have called the police or FBI.

[Nam Vet]

Still, $1800 to a businessman is NOT a back breaker. He had several limos and drivers.

Nam Vet