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Is Law And Order Conservatism Dead? (It Sure Looks Like It)
Several threads here ^ | 7-10-02 | LibBasher

Posted on 07/10/2002 8:42:40 AM PDT by LibBasher

I saw a few threads here yesterday about the Inglewood cop thing. I expected to see comment posts all about revulsion at the PC media's latest propaganda. I expected to see criticism of the Uncivil rights leaders (racebaiting demogogues) that will use this to spread hatred of white people everywhere and justify criminal behavior (and of course take from our wallets).

But I didn't. Instead I saw a very few brave conservatives standing up for law and order being relentlessly bashed by a much larger bunch of, well, I don't know what.

As to the matter discussed: The criminal idiot kid attacked and hit the cop hard enough to produce a gash on his head. When people are hit they usually hit back, whether its cops or anybody else. At most the guy should be briefly suspended without pay or written up (that's what would happen if this country was purged of PC lunacy).

But there's a lot larger issue here: Why some people here of all places would make a huge big deal over a criminal who cracked a cop in the head getting thrown down is just amazing.

So what do you people think will happen now? Well I'll tell you. Exactly what usually happens. The cops will catch fewer criminals, and crime will go up, because that's what happens everytime there's one of these media driven racebaiter PC love-in cop hater fests (riots will most likely follow).

You guys are furthering the PC movement motto: "white cops are out to get all black people?" all just to increase crime and liberal victimization propaganda (and most likely government spending on social programs to help "poor unfortunate victims" like this kid). What is wrong with you? Are you a bunch of liberals or something?

'cause you're sure helping out their cause.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: agentprovocateur; disruptor; inglewood; mooseandcheese; opus
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To: general_re
wow what a snappy someback did you learn that in liberal debate school?
181 posted on 07/10/2002 12:15:27 PM PDT by liberalism=failure
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To: liberalism=failure
Ah how like liberal to blame others for one's own mistakes.

Yes, when I apologized for my mistake and directed you to the appropriate post, I was obviously blaming you for my mistake.

Why did he or she get tossed. Which rule did he/she break and where?

Honestly, he/she/you did not break a rule in this thread, and should not have been banned. My guess is that the mod(s) felt that there was ample evidence that libbasher was a previously banned poster coming back to stir up trouble.

Now, will you please directly answer my question - are libBasher and liberalism=failure one and the same?

182 posted on 07/10/2002 12:16:01 PM PDT by truenospinzone
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To: one_particular_harbour
---liberal_moderators_suck (nobody take that one - I wanna keep it in my membername bank for emergencies)---

Yeah, good why don't you keep that one right next to ALL COPS_ARE_EVIL_WHITE_DEVIL_RACISTS_AND_AL_SHARPTON_IS_MY HERO

BUt hey, I bet I know which one looks better on you.

183 posted on 07/10/2002 12:19:24 PM PDT by liberalism=failure
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To: liberalism=failure
Yeah, good why don't you keep that one right next to ALL COPS_ARE_EVIL_WHITE_DEVIL_RACISTS_AND_AL_SHARPTON_IS_MY HERO

You're spraying hyperbole paint all over yourself with that broadbrush you keep flinging about.

184 posted on 07/10/2002 12:36:06 PM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: liberalism=failure
Look, buddy, buy a dozen Krispy-Kremes and take a break.

Everybody needs a break now and then.

Trolling for hours and getting no good bites is frustrating; I think anyone who's fished can empathize with that.
185 posted on 07/10/2002 12:37:30 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: truenospinzone
---Yes, when I apologized for my mistake and directed you to the appropriate post, I was obviously blaming you for my mistake.---

Sorry it was actually general whatever who blamed me for your mistake I apologize. But I am surprised that someone would make a mistake since I know that none of the new conservatives here ever make mistakes, never lose their tempers, even when hit.

---Why did he or she get tossed. Which rule did he/she break and where? Honestly, he/she/you did not break a rule in this thread, and should not have been banned.---

I believe they call that censorship.

That should concern you more shouldn't it? certainly more than whether the wrongly censored yearned to speak again. I doubt if it does though.

Conservatives used to rave about college campuses and censorship, yet here it is on Free(?) republic and there is yet a cavalcade of people here who saw it happen and cheered that it happened.

Conservatives used to dislike the racial agitators and their use of every little anecdote they could find to push their agenda--(the favorite of all being cops hitting criminals--frequently used to say the world is hopelessly racist, and that immense social programs and such are needed to rectify that)

yet those who are dissenting from this POV are relentlessly bashed at Free(?) Republic

I will answer your question this way,

I have won this argument. I created this thread to test that argument. Law and order conservatism has given weigh to libertarian nihilism reckless contempt for ALL authority, and contempt for ANYTHING government does, and the PC movement has permeated conservatism as well.

Hundreds of People hit people everyday and a whole lot worse, and no one cares. Yet when a guy in blue does it on camera, even after being hit himself, the world stops. the fact that this was even payed attention to is testament to the stupidity and gullibility of the new conservative.

Law and order conservatism IS dead, and free speech conservatism is dead. the stupidty here by relentless cop bashers today on this thread proves it. and liberals, the media, the racebiators, the tax raisers, the criminals should be rejoicing. WHat suckers they've made.

conservatives who behave like liberals are no better than the liberals they emulate.
186 posted on 07/10/2002 12:51:03 PM PDT by liberalism=failure
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To: LibBasher
Yeah, you are right, all we do is bash cops around here. I don't remember a single Freeper ever taking up for that poor FLEO sniper who Randy Weaver's wife attacked with the baby. Just finished this first chapter of David Limbaugh's book, Absolute Power. He didn't seem to approve of the 2 FLEOs who ordered the kids at Waco barbequed getting their jobs back with back pay for the time they were fired; maybe he's a closet leftist too.
187 posted on 07/10/2002 12:53:20 PM PDT by putupon
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To: Wm Bach
wear it with pride dude the people here would rather side with Al Sharpton then Sean Hannity.
188 posted on 07/10/2002 12:53:42 PM PDT by liberalism=failure
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To: Portnoy
AGENT PROVOCATEUR
DISRUPTOR
MOOSE AND CHEESE

Perhaps a re-education camp is in order, or at least censorship

Free Republic is no better than a liberal campus-

observe the orthodoxy or be silenced.







189 posted on 07/10/2002 12:58:09 PM PDT by liberalism=failure
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To: liberalism=failure
"...free speech conservatism is dead..."

That's just pathetic. Don't be such a wuss.

Jeez, if everybody doesn't agree with you, you're going to whine and kvetch and blubber???

The cops could find better allies than you, I'm thinking.

190 posted on 07/10/2002 12:59:46 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: putupon
--I don't remember a single Freeper ever taking up for that poor FLEO sniper who Randy Weaver's wife attacked with the baby.---

Yeah that's right lets compare that with a cop hitting a guy once who punched them in the head. Save your nihilism for some of the censorship loving cophaters here who will buy it.

191 posted on 07/10/2002 1:01:46 PM PDT by liberalism=failure
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To: headsonpikes
Jeez, if everybody doesn't agree with you, you're going to whine and kvetch and blubber???

I'm not talking about that I am talking about the originator of this thread who was banned without breaking a single rule. That's censorship and you either are against it or you're part of it.
192 posted on 07/10/2002 1:03:50 PM PDT by liberalism=failure
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To: liberalism=failure
I believe they call that censorship.

No, to use your own frequent debate-tactic, that's what liberals call censorship. You are absolute free to say whatever you want to about this issue. You are not free to use Jim Robinson's bandwidth to do so. Now, you have admitted that you are, in fact, libBasher, which means that you were a previously banned poster using a new name. Your one-day ban had been lifted when you began this thread, which means you were using two identities to post here on FR. That is against the rules. Hence, one of your aliases was banned. End of story.

Now, for the rest of your rant. Let me make this perfectly clear to you. The fact that people don't agree 100% with every word you say does not mean that those people are not conservatives. Your stance on this issue is obviously not one held by many on this forum. Most of us feel that this cop stepped over the line and deserved to be punished by firing. That's all. I defy you to find more than a half-dozen posts out of the hundreds in your last two vanity threads stating any of the other things you have intimated. We don't think the cop is evil incarnate. We don't think he was racist. We don't think the kid was a saint. NO ONE, other than yourself, has made any generalizations whatsoever about what "All LEOs" do or do not do.

In short, you are overreacting here, and you are making an a$$ of yourself. You have resorted to name-calling and gross hyperbole, and then accused others of not participating in your debate in a fair manner. If you wished to have a rational discussion on this matter, you would have shown an inclination to do so by now. It is obvious that you don't want a debate on this matter at all. What you want is to make gross generalizations and hyperbolic statements, and brand anyone who doesn't agree with you a traitor to conservatism. It's obviously not working. Give up.

193 posted on 07/10/2002 1:13:02 PM PDT by truenospinzone
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To: liberalism=failure
conservatives who behave like liberals are no better than the liberals they emulate.

DU trolls who behave like little statist thugs, whining because they can't bait Freepers into behaving in a manner that DU Trolls themselves imaging they are somehow not, are every bit as transparent, and as feebly literate, as they at first do so appear.

194 posted on 07/10/2002 1:14:55 PM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: liberalism=failure
"That's censorship..."

Well...maybe. I've seen lots of posters banned and suspended; I've received a warning myself following an intemperate post.

The idea that pro- law and order posters are being banned prejudicially simply doesn't ring true from my knowledge and experience of this forum.

A little calm reflection occasionally does every one of us a world of good.
195 posted on 07/10/2002 1:16:11 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: liberalism=failure
uh.....Huh?
196 posted on 07/10/2002 1:21:27 PM PDT by Portnoy
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To: liberalism=failure
I'm not talking about that I am talking about the originator of this thread who was banned without breaking a single rule.

You were the originator of the thread. You were suspended yesterday for personal attacks.

Gosh Reverand Al couldn't have said it better himself. Keep it up and they'll make you an honorary liberal.

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Gosh, lies, hyperbole, mischaracterizations, deliberate distortions, Your hero Al Sharpton couldn't have said it better huimself. You liberal criminal loving weasels make me sick.

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f I were walking down the street and some criminal scumbag like Babble-on hit me in the head and I in turn slammed him on a car and hit him no prosecutor would ever prosecute and no jury would ever convict.

And also as I said taxes rise when RINOS appease liberals, not stand firm against them.

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babble-on, profile--criminal loving, Sharpton, Jackson, Waters, Mfume lover, Lib Nazi, pillowbiter since 2000-09-20

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And you're the one with his lips sucking out the sphinctors of Al, Qwazy, Maxine and Jesse, and all the other libNAZIs and asking for more you criminal loving, Berkeley, pillowbiting, piece of shiite

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Well you don't seem to mind Al Sharpton's mustache do you? Tell me, Does it tickle when you kiss him, or are you too busy working on his other end to notice?

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The criminals, the agitators in the black community, and the liberals and their media are making a war on cops. And people like you are on their side. You are no better than a Berkeley terrorist apologist.

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Yeah sadly it seems some "conservatives" here could do with reading that book, since they would rather side with Al Sharton and the media and the criminals than the police.

All of those examples were made within hours of each other. It is all you do. It isn't like you hadn't been warned before about toning down the personal attacks either.

Then you try to get around the suspension by creating a new account. We ban that account, and you complain about censorship, a very strange complaint since we left the thread up.

In any case, you have exhausted our patience. See ya.

197 posted on 07/10/2002 1:23:59 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
Isn't it funny that you never see liberalism=failure and LibBasher at the same party together?
198 posted on 07/10/2002 1:26:29 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: LibBasher
Law and order conservatism isn't dead, so long as conservatives recognize the importance of applying the law to all. If a full investigation proves that the officer in question took a cheap shot at a handcuffed suspect, he should be fired and prosecuted for assault, like any other American under the law.
199 posted on 07/10/2002 1:26:52 PM PDT by Polonius
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To: Polonius
One can only wish that threads such as this were read by those who think that 'right-winger' means authoritarian thug.

A similar thread on a liberal forum would undoubtedly be a collection of gag-inducing cliches.

This forum keeps the doors and windows open. ;^)
200 posted on 07/10/2002 1:33:19 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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