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Singer's remark riles Hispanics -- Greeley debates 'English' comment
Denver Post ^ | July 9, 2002 | Michael Riley

Posted on 07/09/2002 10:43:24 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan

Singer's remark riles Hispanics -- Greeley debates 'English' comment

By Michael Riley
Denver Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, July 09, 2002

A country western singer who told his audience at the Greeley Independence Stampede that immigrants should learn to speak English ignited an emotional debate in a community that has seen an influx of Hispanics over the past decade.

Warner Brothers recording star Chad Brock said Monday that his comments were meant to express his "pride in being American." But Hispanic leaders said they were racist and the failure of Stampede organizers to condemn them shows the refusal to embrace newcomers.

Brock stepped on stage Friday to belt out hits like "Lighting Does the Work," but he salted his performance with some sharp opinions.

In a speech between sets, Brock said he was tired of having to adapt to the widening influence of the country's newcomers. "You are coming to our country. We don't speak Russian. We don't speak Spanish. We speak English here," Brock told an audience of 7,000, according to the Greeley Tribune. While many Hispanics in the audience walked out, people who attended the event said many non-Hispanics cheered.

Brock, a former pro wrestler, said Monday that the comments came out of an honest patriotic fervor, inspired in part by a recent court decision declaring the phrase "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional.

"I'm not a racist. I wasn't directing the comments toward any particular group. I was speaking my mind as an American" during the Fourth of July holiday, Brock said.

"But I had no idea there were so many Hispanics in Greeley," he said. "I didn't mean to offend anybody."

Hispanic leaders said "offend" doesn't even begin to cover it.

"His comments were bigoted, inflammatory and hateful," said Roberto Cordova, a local college professor.

The issue goes deeper than Brock, said Jorge Amaya, director of the Northern Colorado Latino Chamber of Commerce. "The problem isn't what Brock said. The problem is that our community leaders didn't step up to condemn it."

At a news conference Monday, the Hispanic leaders demanded an apology from city officials, the event's corporate sponsors and Stampede organizers. They said this isn't the first time the Stampede has offended the city's growing Hispanic population.

Citing poor ticket sales, Stampede organizers last year canceled the fiesta section of the annual event.

Stampede marketing director Kyle Holman said organizers wanted to make the fiesta more inclusive and renamed it Family Night.

"Mr. Brock has the right of free speech just like every other American," Holman said. "But his opinion aren't necessarily the opinions of the Greeley Stampede."

But some here said they share Brock's sentiments.

According to census figures, Greeley's Hispanic population nearly doubled in the 1990s, as immigrants, many with limited English skills, took jobs in the region's meat packing plants and feedlots.

As the ethnic makeup of schools and neighborhoods shifts, some residents say they feel left out. Language has become both a divide and a flashpoint.

"If we're going to communicate, everybody needs to speak the same language," said Billie Messner, a patron at a local coffee shop.

Greeley City Manager Leonard Wiest said the city is working to accommodate newcomers.

Brock said Monday that while he's sorry if his comments offended anyone, he won't apologize.

"I had the guts to speak out, but I think a lot of people feel the same way," he said.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; englishlanguage; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; michaeldobbs; pc
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To: Tancredo Fan
Thank God for some celebrity willing to say it.

Quebecization is being pushed on Americans - from coast to coast - but only for the convenience of one minority. Your kid isn't having to learn Russian in school before he can write his name "so he can communicate with his Russian classmates"; your state troopers aren't being forced to become fluent in Russian or Hmong just because a bunch of Russian Jews or Hmong refugees moved to your state.

Get the sticker!

61 posted on 07/09/2002 11:27:47 AM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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To: Tancredo Fan
Do these guys have to apologize as well?


62 posted on 07/09/2002 11:29:12 AM PDT by Dead Corpse
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To: stanz
O.K. - - newcomers should learn to speak English. Any problems with people making the slightest effort to fit in here or are we all supposed to become multi-lingual to accomodate them?

Well, he!!, you know you have time to learn 200+ languages. hehehe.

63 posted on 07/09/2002 11:29:16 AM PDT by Razz Barry
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To: Tancredo Fan
"Public funds should not be used to foster hatred, division and prejudice in this community," said Roberto Córdova, a Hispanic studies professor at the University of Northern Colorado.

If Hispanic studies are anything like Womyns Studies or African Studies programs, wouldn't that be exactly what Prof Córdova is doing?

64 posted on 07/09/2002 11:29:53 AM PDT by Dakmar
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To: Tancredo Fan
It's not like they are being asked to totally divest themselves of their culture. Just learn English, dammit.
65 posted on 07/09/2002 11:30:06 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: DoughtyOne
"...then they should keep right on going until they pass over the river Rio-Grande into the promised land.... I don't see a reason why we should surrender our heritage in the interest of kissing immigrant ass."

AMEN

66 posted on 07/09/2002 11:31:47 AM PDT by phasma proeliator
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To: Doctor Stochastic
And it was some Native American dialect long before that. So what!
67 posted on 07/09/2002 11:34:49 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Razz Barry
I'm lucky I have the time to post to FR!
Addio, adios, au revoir, sayonara, ciao, fi m'Allah, shalom and bye!
68 posted on 07/09/2002 11:36:29 AM PDT by stanz
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To: Tancredo Fan
This garbage will contiune as long as people like the mayor are too cowardly to just point out how stupid it is.

Also, note that the article uses the term "white leaders." Many Hispanics are "white." Hispanic is not a race. Neither is the Spanish language.

69 posted on 07/09/2002 11:38:21 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: stanz
......or are we all supposed to become multi-lingual to accomodate them?

If so, then which language(s) in addition to English do we learn?

Americans speak English. Naturalized American citizens should have minimum proficiency in English. Non-citizen residents are guests and Americans are hosts. It is not a host's responsibility to accomodate the guest.

I wish more people on more occasions would remind these demanding illegals of their status. Many of them think they're cats and can do as they damn well please ;-)

70 posted on 07/09/2002 11:39:02 AM PDT by varon
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To: stanz
Any problems with people making the slightest effort to fit in here or are we all supposed to become multi-lingual to accomodate them?

Don't get me wrong - I've got no problem with learning a foreign language; and if I had my druthers, I would probably learn more than one. I have an interest in cultures that speak Japanese, Spanish and French (Hey, sue me - I like Canada!). But if we moved to any part of Latin America, they would demand that we learn to speak their language in order to do any sort of business with their government for things as simple as getting mail or getting a driver's license. As a result, they shouldn't have a problem with conforming to the local language (i.e., English) when they move here.

71 posted on 07/09/2002 11:39:42 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Travis McGee
Si. Que dice el verdad. Sin duda.

(Did I get that right? $;-)


72 posted on 07/09/2002 11:48:20 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: Tancredo Fan
"You are coming to our country. ... We speak English here,"....

Hispanic leaders said "offend" doesn't even begin to cover it.
... "His comments were bigoted, inflammatory and hateful," said Roberto Cordova, a local college professor

Oh yeah, he should be thrown under the jail! How dare he!

73 posted on 07/09/2002 11:48:45 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: mhking
Well, do you think it's racist that we demand Brits drive on the right side of the road when they come over here?
74 posted on 07/09/2002 11:49:34 AM PDT by Dakmar
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To: Doctor Stochastic
The illegal newcomers tried to turn New Mexico into an English speaking state during the 19th century.

Yes but by that logic New Mexico should talk what....Apache?.. and Mexico Aztec?

English and Spanish are both imported European language and nether is native to North American.

When in Mexico I should accommodate the common imported European language of the nation

When in the U.S. I should accommodate the common imported European language of the nation

75 posted on 07/09/2002 11:52:03 AM PDT by tophat9000
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To: varon
Many of them think they're cats and can do as they damn well please ;-)

Bwahahaha!!

76 posted on 07/09/2002 11:52:47 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Dakmar
Well, do you think it's racist that we demand Brits drive on the right side of the road when they come over here?

We do? [g]

The whole thing is nuts - while there is no "official language" per se in the US (save some specific municipalities), the de facto language is English. Government forms are in English, everything of any official nature is conducted in English. That is as it should be. Those that come here must conform. We have no business trying to conform to their norms.

And no, that is not a racist attitude.

77 posted on 07/09/2002 11:58:37 AM PDT by mhking
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To: mhking; varon
When I traveled in Europe, as well as having studied Spanish and Italian, I took along a French and German dictionary. I made myself understood when the situation called for it.
When I traveled to Egypt in the 80's as part of a study group, I took a course in Arabic beforehand. (Although Egyptian Arabic is quite different from the Classical Arabic taught in the classroom.)
Why can't I, in my own neighborhood in New Jersey, be understood when I speak English in stores, restaurants, on the phone with Cablevision, in banks and, especially, when I try to call a cab? I think it's disgusting that my local telephone directory is divided in half so that if you pick it up the wrong way, the entire thing is in Spanish and you have to turn it over to find information.
I blame this on politicians who are so eager to grab votes that they legislate in favor any group who happens to have taken over a neighborhood,county,city or state. They have created "political correctness" by a**-kissing and we all have to suffer for it.
78 posted on 07/09/2002 11:58:39 AM PDT by stanz
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To: colorado tanker
Yes. But if it is also a mark of non-standard English at some Northern Universities.
79 posted on 07/09/2002 12:02:23 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Tancredo Fan
They should be forced to learn english. They are coming here, therefore they learn our language period.
80 posted on 07/09/2002 12:02:37 PM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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