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Fury as academics are sacked for being Israeli
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 07/07/2002 | Charlotte Edwardes

Posted on 07/06/2002 6:42:41 PM PDT by dighton

A British academic has sparked worldwide protests after sacking two scholars from her highly respected international journals because they are Israeli.

Mona Baker, a professor at the University of Manchester Institute of Science and Technology (UMIST), admitted yesterday that she had dismissed Dr Miriam Shlesinger and Prof Gideon Toury because of their nationality.

Despite a storm of complaints raised by her action, Prof Baker stood by her decision, telling The Telegraph: “I deplore the Israeli state. Miriam knew that was how I felt and that they would have to go because of the current situation.”

Prof Baker asked Dr Shlesinger and Prof Toury to resign from the boards of two academic journals she owns, after signing a website petition last month calling for academics to boycott Israel. When they refused to resign she sacked them.

The dismissals raised no public opposition from within British universities. International academics, however, led by Prof Stephen Greenblatt, a world-renowned Shakespeare scholar at Harvard University, have now condemned the decision and called on British academics to stand up for intellectual freedom.

Prof Greenblatt, who flew to England last night to collect an honorary degree from London University, said that Prof Baker’s actions were “repellent”, “dangerous” and “intellectually and morally bankrupt”.

He described any policy of singling out a group for collective punishment as “grotesque”. He added: “Excluding scholars because of the passports that they carry or because of their skin colour, religion or political party, corrupts the integrity of intellectual work.”

Both of the sacked scholars had worked for the periodicals for three years. Dr Shlesinger, who enjoyed a friendship with Prof Baker and was even a guest at her house in Manchester, worked for the editorial board of The Translator. Prof Toury, who teaches at Tel Aviv University, held an honorary advisory role at Translation Studies Abstracts.

Dr Shlesinger, a respected American-born academic at the Bar-Ilan University near Tel Aviv, is also a former chairman of Amnesty International in Israel and has criticised her country’s policies in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.

Prof Baker, who is the director of the centre for translation and intercultural studies at UMIST, was unrepentant, however. Although the boards of the journals remained split over the dismissals, Prof Baker said: “I am not against Israeli nationals per se; it is Israeli institutions as part of the Israeli state which I absolutely deplore.

She said that her actions were “my interpretation of what a boycott of Israel means”. Prof Baker added: “Many people in Europe have signed a boycott against Israel. Israel has gone beyond just war crimes.

It is horrific what is going on there. Many of us would like to talk about it as some kind of Holocaust which the world will eventually wake up to, much too late, of course, as they did with the last one.”

She conceded, however, that the pair would not have been sacked had they lived in Britain and severed their ties with Israeli institutions.

The petition that Prof Baker signed claims that Israel should be boycotted because it is “racist.” Prof Baker, who refused to disclose where she was born, claimed that her actions were supported by a growing number of academics across Britain and in Germany. She alleged that since the sackings she had been the victim of a hate campaign.

“My husband and I receive hate mail every day, up to 50 [letters] a day, some of it extremely obscene,” she said. “I can’t read it out it is so obscene and very threatening. It is also sent to my university, to my vice-chancellor and to some of my colleagues, and they threaten people who want to stay on the board. The Americans are the worst offenders.

“There is a large intimidation machine out there which is waiting to intimidate anyone that it doesn’t approve of.”

In an open letter to Prof Baker, however, Prof Greenblatt, the president of the Modern Language Association of America, described the “chilling shadow” cast by her actions. “An attack on cultural co-operation, with a particular group singled out for collective punishment violates the essential spirit of scholarly freedom and the pursuit of truth,” he wrote.

“The pursuit of knowledge does not suddenly come to a halt at national borders. This does not mean that serious scholars must be indifferent to the world’s murderous struggles, but it does mean that they are committed to an ongoing, frank conversation . . . [that] often includes passionate disagreement.”

The letter is understood to have the backing of other senior academics at Harvard. Following calls from The Telegraph, a number of leading academics in Britain lent their voice to Prof Greenblatt’s condemnation.

Francis Robinson, a professor of history at London University, said: “Whatever anyone feels about Israel, this is absolutely appalling. Certainly there are strong feelings, not often spoken but nevertheless strongly felt, shared by the majority of British liberal intellectuals about the problems with Israel. Nonetheless, this sounds dreadful. It runs counter to the very principles of academic freedom.”

Prof Greenblatt’s intervention was welcomed by Lord Janner, the chairman of the Holocaust Educational Trust. He said that the sackings set a worrying precedent: “This is disgraceful and dangerous. You should no more sack an Israeli academic for his nationality than you should a Palestinian in the same situation.

“I do not buy this argument that, just because there are more fee-paying Arab students at UMIST and elsewhere, their views should prevail. In every university in the UK today there are problems between the two groups. They must try to insulate themselves from what is happening in the Middle East or else you are going to get the most terrible conflicts seeping into our university campuses.”

Prof John Garside, the vice-chancellor of UMIST, distanced himself from the debate. Even though Prof Baker uses UMIST’s logo in her promotional material for the journals, he said: “The position of UMIST is that the two journals Prof Baker is involved with have nothing to do with UMIST.

“These are activities that she is involved with in her own time. What happens on those journals and the editorial policy on those journals are entirely a matter for those journals. It’s an issue that we are dealing with internally and not something I want to make any public statement about at this stage.”

A spokesman for the Israeli embassy said: “We think the Palestinian cause is not helped in any way by people trying to shut down those who communicate across boundaries through dialogue and the exchange of ideas. It’s the rejection of the legitimacy of the state of Israel itself which lies at the core of the Israeli-Arab conflict.”

• Additional reporting by Tony Freinberg and James Pope

© Copyright of Telegraph Group Limited 2002.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: academia; academialist; antisemitism; hate; intellectualfreedom; israel; racism; uk; unitedkingdom
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To: He Rides A White Horse
We don't mark our actions by the actions of those who are wrong, as if that is some litmus test for that which is right.

Exactly. Greenblatt is finding out there is a justice which transcends his marxist idea of justice. It might take him a while to figure it out, but he will eventually.

81 posted on 07/07/2002 12:25:13 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: dennisw
A native of Egypt...

Good call on post #18! You're on the ball today!

82 posted on 07/07/2002 12:26:52 AM PDT by WellsFargo94
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To: LarryLied
The funny part is they don't understand the dynamics of what is occurring.

What's also funny is that the liberals (both here and in Europe) are hair-trigger quick to label anyone two inches or more to the right of themselves "Nazis" or "fascists", and yet I've been astounded over the past few years how closely the liberals are retracing the Nazis' early footsteps, apparently down the same road.

And it has only been picking up steam in the last six months. Baker's appalling behavior (and the even more appalling silent consent of the left) is just another of the notable milestones on the path to the same sort of cultural insanity and hypocritic self-rightousness that led to the horrors of World War II.

I used to wonder how any country, any culture, could end up like Nazi Germany without sanity putting a halt to it early on. Watching the daily news, now I understand.

83 posted on 07/07/2002 12:30:45 AM PDT by Dan Day
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To: Dan Day
Fascism did, as you know, arise from socialism. What I can't understand is why the left doesn't see it. Or maybe they do and are choosing sides. The left has fought this internal war many times in the past.
84 posted on 07/07/2002 12:51:02 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
"I suggest we all sit back and enjoy the show."

Thank you for that excellent object lesson in the meaning of the "First, they came for the..." principle.

85 posted on 07/07/2002 1:57:46 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: watchin
"She alleged that since the sackings she had been the victim of a hate campaign"

"Poor gal. Same thing happened to Hitler."

"All I did was fire the damn Jew, and now these proles are criticizing me for it! Oh, the vapors, fetch me the vapors!"

There is something... unspeakable, about someone who so blithely lays the axe to the lives of others, who then pisses and moans over the injustice of being criticized for it.

Does this slut epitomize the Arab-British Princess?

86 posted on 07/07/2002 2:02:24 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: pariah
"This guy couldn't find his balls with a microscope..."

They're in Neville Chamberlain's diplomatic pouch.

87 posted on 07/07/2002 2:05:59 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
Thank you for that excellent object lesson in the meaning of the "First, they came for the..." principle.

If you didn't notice, the left came for conservatives, especially Christian conservatives over 20 years before the Nazis came for anyone. Socialists killed over 8 million of them before Hitler took over Germany.

So do I get upset when Lefties fight among themselves?

No, I don't. It means they aren't coming after us.

How many conservatives do you think the people in this article have denied tenure to, backballed or fired?

More than the two here. I'll bet anything on that.

88 posted on 07/07/2002 2:12:12 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
You just don't get it, lar-lar.
89 posted on 07/07/2002 2:14:09 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
Oh yes I do. Liberals cannot be trusted. We're not talking blue collar Democrats here. This is the hard core left. Amnesty International and the Modern Language Association of America. Do you know what a corrupting influence the MLAA is? Ally yourself with this crowd and I'll be telling you "I told you so" when they turn on you. Heck , they won't even turn, they despise conservatives, especially Christian conservatives right now and will never change. Give them support and they'll be ashamed to tell their friends you gave it.

Taking sides in this is like choosing between Trotsky and Stalin.

90 posted on 07/07/2002 2:22:58 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
Nope, you don't get it, not in the least.

I know it's kind of like cheating, but I'll let you in on the secret anyway and hope you don't tell anyone. The fact of the matter is that I am in an excellent position to determine whether or not you get the point I'm making, especially when you go to such great lengths to demonstrate that you do not.

Please stop trying to convince me that you really do get it, when it's painfully obvious that you simply do not.

91 posted on 07/07/2002 2:34:08 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Dan Day
What's also funny is that the liberals (both here and in Europe) are hair-trigger quick to label anyone two inches or more to the right of themselves "Nazis" or "fascists", and yet I've been astounded over the past few years how closely the liberals are retracing the Nazis' early footsteps, apparently down the same road.

Interesting that "Fascist" is the lowest insult of the liberal. After their "Great Patriotic War" it was the favorite insult of the Soviet communist as well. Must be a coincidence.

92 posted on 07/07/2002 3:30:46 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: LarryLied
I agree. We should not impede their self-destruction.
93 posted on 07/07/2002 4:08:25 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: LarryLied; Cachelot
I suggest we all sit back and enjoy the show. Anyone of thse people would censor a conservative in a heart beat--if they let one into their universities to begin with.

A lot of people kick back and enjoy the show you put on. Making a darn fool of yourself. If there are Jews involved then you are always ready to supply some extra drama and off-topic commentary.
94 posted on 07/07/2002 4:23:08 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: cartoonistx
She alleged that since the sackings she had been the victim of a hate campaign.
If she wants to know where that started I suggest she consult the closest mirror!

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Heh! Poor widdle Baker pooh, trying to avoid responsibility and claim instamatic victim_hood. Arafat being her role model.

95 posted on 07/07/2002 4:26:14 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: LarryLied
Actually, I think you can take sides on the matter itself without aligning yourself with the MLA, which is a despicable organization that would be funny if it weren't so powerful.

Translation is one of the peripheral academic disciplines, and everybody in it suffers from the same left-wing sickness that infects another peripheral group, librarians. My sister is a librarian and was incensed when the ALA (American Library Association) started issuing lefty resolutions on vital library matters like - abortion!

I am a translator, and attended a translation technology conference in Spain a couple of years ago at which Mona Baker gave a rambling and incoherent (but lengthy) presentation. She strikes one as a very obsessive person who is somewhat of a loose cannon. I remember thinking at the time that she was the least technically qualified and most politicized of our speakers at the conference. It had nothing to do with politics, but she slipped a bit of "gender" (not grammatical) stuff in there, if I recall correctly.

There's no excuse for letting her get away with this, even though the folks at the MLA certainly don't have clean hands, either. No doubt they would be very happy to banish people they didn't like - but actually, they've probably already eliminated those people (Christians) from the academic world, in any case. However, Mona Baker should still be stopped, regardless of the dubious credentials of the MLA for doing this.
96 posted on 07/07/2002 4:32:30 AM PDT by livius
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To: dennisw
A native of Egypt, Baker has lived in England for 20 years

WTF???

Anyone want to bet on how much venom this sleeper has injected into the mad-dog-English "scientific" establishment during her no doubt distinguished career in shaping modern English language?

They let compatriots of Arafat and Hitler's Grand Mufti handle their encyclopaedia needs, do they? No wonder Encyclopedia Britannica is owned by an arab and has gone through a long period of, shall we say, history revision

97 posted on 07/07/2002 4:36:07 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: zook
PSU alum bump ...


98 posted on 07/07/2002 4:37:06 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: LarryLied
Taking sides in this is like choosing between Trotsky and Stalin.

Well, that's a problem of choice you don't have, Hitler-boy. Oh, wait... wasn't your icon and Stalin actually quite chummy before falling out?

99 posted on 07/07/2002 4:40:01 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: dennisw
In this particular case, the issue is Leftists with knives out for Jewish Leftists. Key is Leftist, not Jewish, though the excuse for the issue purportedly is Israel. The Left gnaws on each other the same as they gnaw on others. We defend ourselves when the Left attacks us, but we get out of their way when the Left is attacking itself.
100 posted on 07/07/2002 4:43:20 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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