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Fury as academics are sacked for being Israeli
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 07/07/2002 | Charlotte Edwardes

Posted on 07/06/2002 6:42:41 PM PDT by dighton

A British academic has sparked worldwide protests after sacking two scholars from her highly respected international journals because they are Israeli.

Mona Baker, a professor at the University of Manchester Institute of Science and Technology (UMIST), admitted yesterday that she had dismissed Dr Miriam Shlesinger and Prof Gideon Toury because of their nationality.

Despite a storm of complaints raised by her action, Prof Baker stood by her decision, telling The Telegraph: “I deplore the Israeli state. Miriam knew that was how I felt and that they would have to go because of the current situation.”

Prof Baker asked Dr Shlesinger and Prof Toury to resign from the boards of two academic journals she owns, after signing a website petition last month calling for academics to boycott Israel. When they refused to resign she sacked them.

The dismissals raised no public opposition from within British universities. International academics, however, led by Prof Stephen Greenblatt, a world-renowned Shakespeare scholar at Harvard University, have now condemned the decision and called on British academics to stand up for intellectual freedom.

Prof Greenblatt, who flew to England last night to collect an honorary degree from London University, said that Prof Baker’s actions were “repellent”, “dangerous” and “intellectually and morally bankrupt”.

He described any policy of singling out a group for collective punishment as “grotesque”. He added: “Excluding scholars because of the passports that they carry or because of their skin colour, religion or political party, corrupts the integrity of intellectual work.”

Both of the sacked scholars had worked for the periodicals for three years. Dr Shlesinger, who enjoyed a friendship with Prof Baker and was even a guest at her house in Manchester, worked for the editorial board of The Translator. Prof Toury, who teaches at Tel Aviv University, held an honorary advisory role at Translation Studies Abstracts.

Dr Shlesinger, a respected American-born academic at the Bar-Ilan University near Tel Aviv, is also a former chairman of Amnesty International in Israel and has criticised her country’s policies in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.

Prof Baker, who is the director of the centre for translation and intercultural studies at UMIST, was unrepentant, however. Although the boards of the journals remained split over the dismissals, Prof Baker said: “I am not against Israeli nationals per se; it is Israeli institutions as part of the Israeli state which I absolutely deplore.

She said that her actions were “my interpretation of what a boycott of Israel means”. Prof Baker added: “Many people in Europe have signed a boycott against Israel. Israel has gone beyond just war crimes.

It is horrific what is going on there. Many of us would like to talk about it as some kind of Holocaust which the world will eventually wake up to, much too late, of course, as they did with the last one.”

She conceded, however, that the pair would not have been sacked had they lived in Britain and severed their ties with Israeli institutions.

The petition that Prof Baker signed claims that Israel should be boycotted because it is “racist.” Prof Baker, who refused to disclose where she was born, claimed that her actions were supported by a growing number of academics across Britain and in Germany. She alleged that since the sackings she had been the victim of a hate campaign.

“My husband and I receive hate mail every day, up to 50 [letters] a day, some of it extremely obscene,” she said. “I can’t read it out it is so obscene and very threatening. It is also sent to my university, to my vice-chancellor and to some of my colleagues, and they threaten people who want to stay on the board. The Americans are the worst offenders.

“There is a large intimidation machine out there which is waiting to intimidate anyone that it doesn’t approve of.”

In an open letter to Prof Baker, however, Prof Greenblatt, the president of the Modern Language Association of America, described the “chilling shadow” cast by her actions. “An attack on cultural co-operation, with a particular group singled out for collective punishment violates the essential spirit of scholarly freedom and the pursuit of truth,” he wrote.

“The pursuit of knowledge does not suddenly come to a halt at national borders. This does not mean that serious scholars must be indifferent to the world’s murderous struggles, but it does mean that they are committed to an ongoing, frank conversation . . . [that] often includes passionate disagreement.”

The letter is understood to have the backing of other senior academics at Harvard. Following calls from The Telegraph, a number of leading academics in Britain lent their voice to Prof Greenblatt’s condemnation.

Francis Robinson, a professor of history at London University, said: “Whatever anyone feels about Israel, this is absolutely appalling. Certainly there are strong feelings, not often spoken but nevertheless strongly felt, shared by the majority of British liberal intellectuals about the problems with Israel. Nonetheless, this sounds dreadful. It runs counter to the very principles of academic freedom.”

Prof Greenblatt’s intervention was welcomed by Lord Janner, the chairman of the Holocaust Educational Trust. He said that the sackings set a worrying precedent: “This is disgraceful and dangerous. You should no more sack an Israeli academic for his nationality than you should a Palestinian in the same situation.

“I do not buy this argument that, just because there are more fee-paying Arab students at UMIST and elsewhere, their views should prevail. In every university in the UK today there are problems between the two groups. They must try to insulate themselves from what is happening in the Middle East or else you are going to get the most terrible conflicts seeping into our university campuses.”

Prof John Garside, the vice-chancellor of UMIST, distanced himself from the debate. Even though Prof Baker uses UMIST’s logo in her promotional material for the journals, he said: “The position of UMIST is that the two journals Prof Baker is involved with have nothing to do with UMIST.

“These are activities that she is involved with in her own time. What happens on those journals and the editorial policy on those journals are entirely a matter for those journals. It’s an issue that we are dealing with internally and not something I want to make any public statement about at this stage.”

A spokesman for the Israeli embassy said: “We think the Palestinian cause is not helped in any way by people trying to shut down those who communicate across boundaries through dialogue and the exchange of ideas. It’s the rejection of the legitimacy of the state of Israel itself which lies at the core of the Israeli-Arab conflict.”

• Additional reporting by Tony Freinberg and James Pope

© Copyright of Telegraph Group Limited 2002.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: academia; academialist; antisemitism; hate; intellectualfreedom; israel; racism; uk; unitedkingdom
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To: dighton
She alleged that since the sackings she had been the victim of a hate campaign

Poor gal. Same thing happened to Hitler.

41 posted on 07/06/2002 8:06:02 PM PDT by watchin
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To: dighton
Baker and her researchers discovered that two translations of the same text are never the same. Just as researchers have different perspectives and explanations on the same material, translators are no different.
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Standard Derrida-ist and deconstructionist twaddle. This is the crap they sling about at faggy cocktail parties to impress each other.

Real deal, they are COMMIE RATS!!!!


42 posted on 07/06/2002 8:06:38 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: bvw
Good point.
43 posted on 07/06/2002 8:08:35 PM PDT by watchin
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To: dennisw
Baker and her researchers discovered that two translations of the same text are never the same. Just as researchers have different perspectives and explanations on the same material, translators are no different.

Well, this is generally true, no? Perhaps you mean the practice of "altering power discourses" or whatever to politicize translation?

44 posted on 07/06/2002 8:18:14 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: dennisw
Jihadist slut

SNICKER! You have a way with words, dennisw :-))

45 posted on 07/06/2002 8:21:13 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: dighton
You would think.....but no! Even the leftist Jews are being ostracized. Granted, it is a private journal, but the hypocrisy - it's because they're Jews not Israelis.

The Arab Socio/Political/Cultural Jihad takes another step.
46 posted on 07/06/2002 8:24:00 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: dighton
Prof John Garside, the vice-chancellor of UMIST, distanced himself from the debate. Even though Prof Baker uses UMIST’s logo in her promotional material for the journals, he said: “The position of UMIST is that the two journals Prof Baker is involved with have nothing to do with UMIST.

“These are activities that she is involved with in her own time. What happens on those journals and the editorial policy on those journals are entirely a matter for those journals. It’s an issue that we are dealing with internally and not something I want to make any public statement about at this stage.”

Mealy-mouthed Chicken sh!it.

47 posted on 07/06/2002 8:24:10 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: dennisw
"two translations of the same text are never the same."

That's why some are considered better than others; sometimes the word 'definitive' is attached to certain translations.
48 posted on 07/06/2002 8:25:36 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Shermy
Mona,

I hear that there is a hate campaign going on against you? And all you did was sack a couple of stinking Jewish dogs? You try to help with the Jewish problem, and all you get is grief! What's the world coming to when you can't even harass the sons of pigs and apes anymore?

My best wishes are with you, Mona. Oh, let me list a few:
... may racists drive the Egyptians from the UK (for noble cause, of course)
... may the world consider them as virtuous as you consider yourself
... may they whine about those who have the nerve to disagree with them
... may the world actually give them the pity you seek for yourself.

How can you exercise such base racist hatred, and then have the audacity to portray yourself as a victim? You want pity? Get in line behind Hitler, you hypocrite.


49 posted on 07/06/2002 8:39:16 PM PDT by watchin
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To: Alouette
How much do you want to bet that Prof. Baker is a protege of Noam Chomsky?

You mean "Known Commsky?"
50 posted on 07/06/2002 8:39:17 PM PDT by Antoninus
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To: dighton
Prof John Garside, the vice-chancellor of UMIST, distanced himself from the debate.

This guy couldn't find his balls with a microscope...

51 posted on 07/06/2002 8:39:52 PM PDT by pariah
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To: *Academia list
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52 posted on 07/06/2002 8:44:21 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Antoninus
Nice work.
53 posted on 07/06/2002 8:53:59 PM PDT by watchin
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To: watchin
Nothing good has come from Egypt since Moses.
54 posted on 07/06/2002 8:59:44 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: crystalk
What about the Stargate?
55 posted on 07/06/2002 9:02:20 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Catspaw
I'm a poet at heart :)
56 posted on 07/06/2002 9:12:30 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dighton
It sounds like the liberals are eating each other over Israel.
57 posted on 07/06/2002 9:12:37 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: crystalk
Yeah...what about that StarGate? Those heathen beliefs roll up a lot of juice when millions belive in them.
58 posted on 07/06/2002 9:15:11 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: crystalk
Speaking of Moses ... when are the Jews gonna get THEIR reparations???
59 posted on 07/06/2002 9:16:16 PM PDT by watchin
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My letter to Mona Baker. I am still debating whether to send it or not it is worthless since she probably stopped reading a mail since she was part of a "hate campaign" (what a paradox, a hate campaign against racism and discrimination)

Dear Mona,

You complain about Israel being a "racist state", but yet dismiss 2 scholars them because of their nationality. It gets even worse how these scholars absolutely opposed their nations 'racist' practices but you still felt the need to dismiss them.

Even if they felt indifferent on the subject of Israeli's 'racism', why would they need to be sacked? Just because you come from a certain country makes you ineligible because that country is corrupt?

You state that "many people in Europe have sigend a boycott against Israel". Do you think they were reffering to those scholars that dislike their countries practices? Do you think they were boycotting the citizens? No, they were boycotting Ariel Sharon's government that they felt was corrupt and racist. You complain about racism, yet discriminate based on nationality regardless on that persons feelings about their countries corrupt actions, and when people call you out on it you take the victim.

Maybe you should realize your hypocrisy and understand why you are part of a "hate" campaign.



60 posted on 07/06/2002 9:19:30 PM PDT by Kahz
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