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To: Khepera
If you believe that God has something to do with the real world, then you can't be an evolutionist because evolution is run by chance, not by God, by definition.

Not necessarily true. Nothing (except the Bible, by some interpretations) says that God couldn't use evolution as his method of creation.

6 posted on 07/05/2002 12:32:34 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Restorer
Except the evolutionists themselves. They say it is by chance and God had nothing to do with it. They cannot have it both ways.
8 posted on 07/05/2002 12:35:53 PM PDT by Khepera
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To: Restorer
Creation/God(real world)...Christianity---secular-govt.-humanism...private religion!

Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives(no govt religion--none) who advocated growth and progress---mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality... UNDER GOD---the nature of GOD/man/govt. does not change. These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...personal-PRIVATE moral/social character-values GROWTH!

Evolution...Atheism-dehumanism---TYRANNY/govt. RELIGION---bigotry/intolerance---HYPOCRISY...

Age of the taliban/pharisees(unreal-maufactured world)...EVO-WHACKS---ZEALOTS...

Then came the post-modern age of switch-flip-spin-DEFORMITY-cancer...Atheist secular materialists through ATHEISM/evolution CHANGED-REMOVED the foundations...demolished the wall(separation of state/religion)--trampled the TRUTH-GOD...built a satanic temple/SWAMP-MALARIA/RELIGION(cult of darwin-marx-satan) over them---made these absolutes subordinate--relative and calling all the residuals---technology/science === evolution to substantiate/justify their efforts--claims...social engineering--PC--atheism...anti-God/Truth RELIGION--crusade/WAR--INTOLERANCE/TYRANNY...against God--man--society!!

13 posted on 07/05/2002 12:45:02 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Restorer; Khepera
Einstein: "God doesn't play dice."

When you understand the tremendous depth of this statement, you'll understand the poverty of both evolution and creationism qua theory.

34 posted on 07/05/2002 1:11:09 PM PDT by WriteOn
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To: Restorer
Nothing (except the Bible, by some interpretations) says that God couldn't use evolution as his method of creation.

Seems to me that you would have to be quite a sophistic lawyer to 'interpret' the following as allowing for evolution:

In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being by Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.
John, 1.

292 posted on 07/06/2002 6:56:35 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: Restorer
Nothing (except the Bible, by some interpretations) says that God couldn't use evolution as his method of creation.

GOOD POINT. However you will make the non-thinkers go crazy with this observation.
352 posted on 07/07/2002 2:03:50 PM PDT by Vinomori
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