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Ban The Penny
Forbes.com ^ | 7/5/02 | Mark Lewis

Posted on 07/05/2002 12:07:25 PM PDT by GeneD

NEW YORK - Almost a year has passed now since U.S. Rep. Jim Kolbe made headlines by introducing his anti-penny bill, yet these pesky one-cent coins continue to jingle uselessly in people's pockets. Can nobody rid America of this copper-coated scourge?

Kolbe, an Arizona Republican, is doing his best, although his proposed Legal Tender Modernization Act is languishing in a subcommittee. The bill would not ban pennies, but merely discourage their use by establishing a system under which cash transactions would be rounded up or down. That would render the penny unnecessary.

"It's practically useless in everyday life," complains Neena Moorjani, Kolbe's press secretary. But the penny has its fans, especially in Tennessee, which is rich in zinc. Up until 1982, pennies were made mostly of copper; since then they have been 97.5% zinc, with a little copper mixed in for appearance's sake.

Just last week, two lawmakers from the Volunteer State introduced a resolution commemorating the 20th anniversary of the zinc-based penny. Fans of this coin note snidely that Kolbe's home state of Arizona is rich in copper--which makes up a bigger percentage of the larger-denomination coins that might be more heavily used if the penny were discontinued. Kolbe also favors replacing paper dollar bills with longer-lasting $1 coins--and as it happens, the Sacagawea "golden dollar" introduced two years ago is made mostly of copper.

Moorjani stoutly rejects the suggestion that her boss is shilling for his state's copper interests. "Our office has not spoken to the copper industry in Arizona about this issue at all," she says, referring to the Legal Tender Modernization bill.

Be that as it may, Kolbe's proposals are only logical. Several other nations have eliminated their small-denomination coins without going to wrack and ruin in the process, and Canada managed to replace its dollar bills with dollar coins. Yet many Americans recoil from the idea of losing the penny, and they have responded to the golden dollar more by admiring its image of Sacagawea than by using it to buy things.

Still, the U.S. Mint considers the new dollar coin a success. "America seems to really like the coin, despite what people might read to the contrary," asserts Doug Hecox, a Mint spokesman. If they tend to hoard it rather than spend it, that just means they value it, he says: "Their inaction speaks louder than words."

After producing more than a billion Sacagawea dollars, the Mint temporarily halted production earlier this year. But Hecox says that was due to the economic slowdown, which affected demand for all coins. Now that a recovery seems to be at hand, the Mint soon will consider putting Sacagawea back into production, he adds.

The Mint never stopped producing pennies, however, recession or no recession. Last year it stamped out 10.3 billion of them, and through the first five months of this year it put another 2.5 billion shiny new pennies into circulation. Meanwhile, Kolbe's bill molders in some congressional cubbyhole. The ban-the-penny movement lives on (it was featured on one of last season's episodes of The West Wing), but the pennies keep mounting up.

Perhaps the University of Pennsylvania's prestigious Wharton School could take the lead in studying this issue and determining which course makes the best economic sense. That would only be appropriate, because this school originally was endowed by Gilded Age industrialist Joseph Wharton, who got rich by cornering the market for nickel and then persuading Congress to create a new coin made exclusively of metal from his mines.

More than a century later, the nickel is still with us, but these days it contains more copper than nickel. Chalk up another win for Arizona. Now, if Kolbe and company could just get Congress to drop the penny, they would introduce some real sense into America's currency.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: coins; copper; jimkolbe; pennies; sacagaweadollar; tennessee; uscurrency; usmint; zinc
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To: discostu
That does make sense. It's a more complicated issue than it appears, there's probably not a simple answer as to the net effect on total prices for consumers.
41 posted on 07/05/2002 2:20:12 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent
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To: Phantom Lord
Everything is already rounded up to the nearest nickel. The fact that everything ends in .99 is just foolishness. A $14.99 garden rake is actually $15.00. Even if you hung around to collect your penny in change, it would usually end up in that "penny tray" that has cropped up at just about every store. Either that, or the penny ends up under some seat cushion where it is eventually sucked up by a vacuum cleaner. There is really no point for the penny anymore except in coin collections. Time to retire it with the half-cent.
42 posted on 07/05/2002 2:27:15 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: ThinkDifferent
For sales tax it's straight forward: the odder the math the better it is for business, which eventually equates to more tax money since that extra tax gets rated as income.

Now for getting rid of the penny it'll cost the consumer more, garaunteed. I doubt prices will change (well if they do something stupid like only get rid of the penny for cash transactions prices will change because businesses will have to hire more accountants because the books will be harder to figure out, accountants aren't cheap, hirer labor costs always equals higher prices for the consumer), but after all the calculations you'll probably wind up with something that doesn't end in 5 or 0, and it will then be rounded up (garauntee that, no way a business would round down, they never round sales tax down). On your receipt it'll probably just get rolled into the sales tax so it's invisible.
43 posted on 07/05/2002 2:30:16 PM PDT by discostu
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To: SteamshipTime
After Ronald Reagan goes to his final rest, I'm going to propose the issuance of a pure copper penny bearing his likeness. I think Reagan, a child of the Depression, would most certainly approve.

I really like the idea of putting the likeness of President Reagan on a coin, but would prefer that it be on a new dollar rather then a penny.

44 posted on 07/05/2002 2:40:41 PM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: headsonpikes
One alternative to banning the penny would be to consider a 'reverse split' of the $US, like an unfortunate 'penny' stock.

Presuming a 1 for 10 rollback, the penny would again be worth what it was during Eisenhower's Presidency.

I'd vote for that!

45 posted on 07/05/2002 3:04:15 PM PDT by captain_dave
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To: Husker24
"dollar coin", those Sacajawea coins

They are also too close in size to a quarter.
I want to reach into my pocket of mixed change and have no doubt whether it is a quarter or a dollar I am grabbing.
46 posted on 07/05/2002 3:36:22 PM PDT by APBaer
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To: R. Scott
Heh heh heh ;0)
47 posted on 07/05/2002 3:49:30 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: GeneD
"If you can count your money, you don't have a billion dollars."

J. Paul Getty
48 posted on 07/05/2002 4:47:27 PM PDT by Highway55
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To: GeneD
JUST think of it get rid of all those pennys !

NAHHHH lets get rid of the dude and keep the penny i like it better

49 posted on 07/05/2002 4:49:37 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: GeneD
A tangentially related note: The toxic waste site on Algore's family farm in Carthage is a zinc mining operation.
50 posted on 07/05/2002 4:54:42 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Petronski
ban idiot politicians and leave the dollar and penny alone.
51 posted on 07/05/2002 4:59:25 PM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: captain_dave
"I'd vote for that."

One can only presume that the old seadog has gunny sacks of pennies for ballast. ;^)
52 posted on 07/05/2002 8:25:26 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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