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English And Welsh Are Races Apart
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| 6-30-2002
Posted on 07/04/2002 5:27:12 PM PDT by blam
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To: dr_who
That's my mother's family. lol
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To: muawiyah
Well, that's a fine condensation of some of the more recent Arthurian legends, at least.
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posted on
07/04/2002 6:40:08 PM PDT
by
jimtorr
To: blam; Fiddlstix
It suggests that between 50% and 100% of the indigenous population of what was to become England was wiped out, with Offa's Dyke acting as a "genetic barrier" protecting those on the Welsh sideReporting in from Left Coast chapter, Welsh Reparations Committee. I'm not sure who Offa's Dyke was, LOL! but I'm glad she/it protected us Welsh persons from contamination.
Fiddlstx, let's launch a claim to get out castle back! From there, we can take back London. Tomorrow, the world!
To: chilepepper
I am not a mere Celt, I am a Pict!You beat me to it, I was about to ask when they were going to test the highland Scot
To: blam
I Welshman once told me that the Irish are actually Welshman that could swim. Perhaps he wasn't joking after all.
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posted on
07/04/2002 6:41:42 PM PDT
by
Fzob
To: keithtoo
You know, Ioan Gruffudd (of Horatio Hornhooter fame) and Sean Connerrry are both kind of dark, not to mention Enya. So maybe a cause-celeb case could be made next time there's a vote on a separate parliament for whoever.
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posted on
07/04/2002 6:42:58 PM PDT
by
dr_who
To: blam
Wise choice, buster. But if you're Norman, I suggest you don't go stolling through dark stretches of woods.
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posted on
07/04/2002 6:44:53 PM PDT
by
dr_who
To: keithtoo
"If history is to be taught as PC would dictate. The 'White' cultures of the Welsh and the Anglo-Saxons, MUST have displaced a peaceful and loving 'people of color' who inhabited the British Isles (oppressor name) prior to their being invaded by Whites seeking gold." LOL. Some do believe that the legend of the Irish Leprechauns derives from earlier inhabitants of Ireland, the San Bushmen. (I've read a lot about the Bushmen and their habits, mannerisms and etc. do seem to match those of the leprechauns, even pointed ears)
Also, who were the Fomorians?
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posted on
07/04/2002 6:46:00 PM PDT
by
blam
To: PoisedWoman
Offa? I thought he was a viking!
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posted on
07/04/2002 6:47:29 PM PDT
by
dr_who
To: blam
Cymru am bydd! My family hails from Llanfihangel y Creuddyn near Aberystwyth in Wales. The name "Wales" derives from the Latin "waleas" or foreigners. The Welsh referred to themselves as "cymru" or friends. The foreigners were the Anglo-Saxons and Roman army invaders. The mountains on the east protected the Welsh from invasions from the east. The rocky coastline prevented assaults from the sea. The Welsh retreated to the mountains to avoid assaults by land.
Before the advent of modern "B" roads in Wales, the valley where my family resided would have been only accessible by foot or pack animal. It is still difficult to access today.
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posted on
07/04/2002 6:48:01 PM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: McGavin999
If you're a Pict, you'd better get back to hiding in the Marches.
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posted on
07/04/2002 6:50:04 PM PDT
by
dr_who
To: dr_who
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posted on
07/04/2002 6:51:58 PM PDT
by
dr_who
To: keithtoo
Fomorians(Ireland)
The Myth: "The tribe of the Fomorians was on the scene long before any other races came to Ireland. However, the Fomors lived mainly in the sea. The first outside race to invade Ireland was the race of the Partholon; very little is known of them. After 300 years of struggle against the Fomors, the Partholons died of an epidemic.
Next came the race of Nemed who also suffered from an epidemic. This time, though, some of them survived, only to be oppressed by the Fomors.
Later came colonizers from Spain or Greece called the Fir Bolgs. They were actually three tribes; men of Domnu, men of Gaillion, and men of Bolg. They inter-married with the Fomors and held the country until the arrival of the "Tuatha De Danann". Source: (from Ancient and Shining Ones - by DJ Conway)
Fomhóire(Ireland)
Fomhóire means 'from the sea' and is the name of the gods of night and death and cold. According to myth, the Fomhóire (or Fomorians) were mis-shapen and had now the heads of goats and bulls, and now but one leg, and one arm that came out from the middle of their breasts. They were the ancestors of the evil faeries and, according to one gaelic writer, of all misshapen persons. The giants and leprecauns are expressely mentioned as of the Fomhóire. Source: http://www.mediatel.lu/team/nmack/mmp_myth_fomhoire.html
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posted on
07/04/2002 6:59:23 PM PDT
by
blam
To: dr_who
I'm not a Pict.
To: Illbay
The researchers concluded the most likely explanation for this was a large-scale Anglo-Saxon invasion, which devastated the Celtic population of England, but did not reach Wales. I guess I'm stupid. I thought this was the way it worked all along. I didn't realize it was a controversy.
Me too. And what they were describing as the old theory of a small class of ruling elites is what I thought the Norman conquest was all about.
To: dr_who
Any Scot worth his salt respects the extraordinary metalworking skills of the Picts. The BEST armorers were of Pictish blood.
To: blam
Good old whathisname, Neils Vanderpost, wrote the still definitive story on the San.
Skeletons similar to those of the modern day Bushmen have been found all around the Bay of Biscay.
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posted on
07/04/2002 7:05:19 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: blam
Celtic Britain underwent a form of ethnic cleansing by Anglo-Saxons invaders ... Ok when do we start bombing London until that evil despot Blair and his henchmen allow free elections. ;-)
To: McGavin999
Ah, you're a Mict!
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posted on
07/04/2002 7:07:07 PM PDT
by
dr_who
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