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U.S. Air Force: Israel has 400 nukes, building naval force
World Tribune ^ | 7/4/02

Posted on 07/04/2002 7:51:59 AM PDT by truthandlife

A United States Air Force report asserts that Israel is building a nuclear naval force meant to respond to any nuclear strike by such countries as Iran or Iraq.

It is the first time a U.S. military institution has stated that Israel has produced a hydrogen bomb. The number of purported Israeli nuclear weapons cited in the report is double that of previous assessments.

The report, sponsored by the air force's Counterproliferation Center, asserts that the navy can deploy any of what it asserts is Israel's 400 atomic and hydrogen weapons, Middle East Newsline reported. The center is located in the Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama.

In a report entitled "The Third Temple's Holy of Holies: Israel's Nuclear Weapons," U.S. Army Col. Warner Farr said Israel's nuclear arsenal has grown from an estimated 13 nuclear bombs in 1967 to 400 nuclear and thermonuclear weapons. Farr said Israel's navy could deploy nuclear weapons on the fleet of three German-built Dolphin-class diesel submarines.

"Israel will then have a second strike capability with nuclear cruise missiles, and this capability could well change the nuclear arms race in the Middle East," the report, which Farr said is based on unclassified sources, read. "Israeli rhetoric on the new submarines labels them 'national deterrent' assets."

The report said these nuclear missiles could have a range of 350 kilometers. Israel would try to base its nuclear naval force near Oman, with which Israel has informal relations, the September 1999 report, which was recently published by the center, said.

"The first basing options for the new second-strike force of nuclear missile capable submarines include Oman, an Arab nation with unofficial Israeli relations, located strategically near Iran," the report said.

The U.S. Air Force Counterproliferation Center was established in 1998. The center is meant to help prepare air force commanders counter the threat from weapons of mass destruction. The report did not deem Israel's purported nuclear arsenal as a direct threat to the United States.

The report said Israel's Defense Ministry has requested from the government of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon authorization for a retaliatory nuclear strike. Israel could also use Jordanian air space for a nuclear strike on Iran, which the report said could produce a nuclear warhead as early as 2004.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Israel
KEYWORDS: hydrogenbomb; israel; navy; nuclearweapons; wmd
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To: Cachelot
And your ASSERTION is that the Israeli nuclear program is the result of such betrayal. Which is identical to the line put out by any Nazi site.

And your idiotic ASSERTION is that just because neo-Nazi's say it,it can't possibly be true? THERE is some clever thinking! Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

141 posted on 01/31/2003 7:28:22 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: Quix
After reading Ezekial 38 and 39 it's looks like their weapon or weapons will do what is needed. 7 months to bury their enemies and 7 years to burn their swords... G-d surely will get the world's attention there after.
142 posted on 01/31/2003 8:33:28 PM PST by hope (Have you noticed that the left and Saddam have the same talking points?)
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To: hope
Have long wondered how much God would use our weapons in his plans vs doing things strictly by His awesome direct power--the power of His Word, His Spirit.
143 posted on 01/31/2003 8:37:49 PM PST by Quix (21st FREEPCARD FINISHED)
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To: truthandlife
In a report entitled "The Third Temple's Holy of Holies: Israel's Nuclear Weapons," U.S. Army Col. Warner Farr said Israel's nuclear arsenal has grown from an estimated 13 nuclear bombs in 1967 to 400

This title is very inappropriate, which makes me doubt the veracity of this "source". It is hard to inagine a U.S. military officer producing a report with such a loaded, religious-centric title when referring to a secular nations arsenal. Bizarre.

144 posted on 01/31/2003 8:42:30 PM PST by montag813
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To: Quix
I think Abraham and Lott can attest that He has a pretty good arsenal of His own.
145 posted on 01/31/2003 8:45:37 PM PST by hope (Have you noticed that the left and Saddam have the same talking points?)
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To: hope
QUITE SO.

And, I think in most contexts, He prefers to do it with His arsnel (sp?).
146 posted on 01/31/2003 8:58:48 PM PST by Quix (21st FREEPCARD FINISHED)
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To: Quix
Interesting times we are living in...to say the least.
147 posted on 01/31/2003 9:09:34 PM PST by hope (Have you noticed that the left and Saddam have the same talking points?)
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To: hope
For sure.

And likely to get curiouser and curiouser.

So crucial to walk hand in hand with the man from Galilee.
148 posted on 01/31/2003 9:15:15 PM PST by Quix (21st FREEPCARD FINISHED)
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To: Quix
I cannot imagine how it would be if that were'nt the truest of statements.
149 posted on 01/31/2003 9:26:48 PM PST by hope (Have you noticed that the left and Saddam have the same talking points?)
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To: sneakypete
Irv Rubin gave his life for what he believed in.

Odd, after 30 years of JDL'ing, fighting the most vicious and dangerous Nazi scum and governments, he dies while in the United States of America's Federal Protective Custody.

As for your Christians comment...Not every battle Irv chose was the wisest. It is widely recoginzed and appreciated that religious Christians are some of Israel's biggest supporters. That won't be forgotten.

If you have the need to rag on the JDL, feel free to FRmail me; I'll ignore it. This will free up others from your JDL associations.

And yes, Irv is a hero of mine, the same as some folks in a Warsaw ghetto 60 years ago.

150 posted on 01/31/2003 9:49:39 PM PST by Abar
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To: sneakypete; Cachelot
Irv Rubin gave his life for what he believed in.

Odd, after 30 years of JDL'ing, fighting the most vicious and dangerous Nazi scum and governments, he dies while in the United States of America's Federal Protective Custody.

As for your Christians comment...Not every battle Irv chose was the wisest. It is widely recoginzed and appreciated that religious Christians are some of Israel's biggest supporters. That won't be forgotten.

If you have the need to rag on the JDL, feel free to FRmail me; I'll ignore it. This will free up others from your JDL associations.

And yes, Irv is a hero of mine, the same as some folks in a Warsaw ghetto 60 years ago.

151 posted on 01/31/2003 9:50:28 PM PST by Abar
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To: sneakypete; Cachelot
Irv Rubin gave his life for what he believed in.

Odd, after 30 years of JDL'ing, fighting the most vicious and dangerous Nazi scum and governments, he dies while in the United States of America's Federal Protective Custody.

As for your Christians comment...Not every battle Irv chose was the wisest. It is widely recoginzed and appreciated that religious Christians are some of Israel's biggest supporters. That won't be forgotten.

If you have the need to rag on the JDL, feel free to FRmail me; I'll ignore it. This will free up others from your JDL associations.

And yes, Irv is a hero of mine, the same as some folks in a Warsaw ghetto 60 years ago.

152 posted on 01/31/2003 9:50:53 PM PST by Abar
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To: hope
I don't think anyone has these end times figured out very well or extensively. I don't think it's quite time and I doubt God will allow any ONE person such knowledge.

But hearing God together, we can add our pieces of the puzzle and walk in greater insight and information from The Father, Our Lord by His Spirit.

And I suspect that MY SHEEP KNOW MY VOICE will become crucially life saving rather routinely.

But, exciting walking in His Spirit, doing great miraculous exploits. . . what a day to be alive.

Though a big chicken part of me would just as soon go Home immediately.

153 posted on 01/31/2003 10:17:03 PM PST by Quix (21st FREEPCARD FINISHED)
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To: Quix
Amen to all that, my friend!
154 posted on 01/31/2003 10:45:41 PM PST by hope (Stop liberalism in it's tracks..Buy a gun and shoot your television.)
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To: Abar
Irv Rubin gave his life for what he believed in.

So did Hitler.

Odd, after 30 years of JDL'ing, fighting the most vicious and dangerous Nazi scum and governments, he dies while in the United States of America's Federal Protective Custody.

He never fought anybody. Setting bombs to blow up unsuspecting people isn't fighting.

As for your Christians comment...Not every battle Irv chose was the wisest.

I'm glad to hear you say that. This means you may be more open-minded than you first appeared to be. Religious bigots of all stripes need to keep in mind that any country that has the power to oppress one religion,has the power to oppress all religions. Or even to DEMAND non-believers such as myself attend religious services. If I am to be able to continue to enjoy the freedom of remaining a non-believer,I HAVE to be able to allow YOU the same freedom to be a Jew,and others to be of whatever faith they follow. You can't endanger one without putting all in danger. No government needs or should have this type of power.

It is widely recoginzed and appreciated that religious Christians are some of Israel's biggest supporters. That won't be forgotten.

The truth is there are probably more rabid pro-Israel fundie Christians in this country than there are pro-Israeli Jews.

If you have the need to rag on the JDL,

I rag on any and all terrorist organizations. Especially the PC ones who use bluster to gain respectability,and who are "protected" by the PC Police.Nobody is hesitant to jump on the KKK,but everybody is afraid of jumping on the JDL because they are afraid of being called anti-Semitic.

And yes, Irv is a hero of mine, the same as some folks in a Warsaw ghetto 60 years ago.

While you have the unquestioned right to have him or anyone else as a hero,you are doing a great disservice to the heroic Jews of the Warsaw ghetto who raised up and fought the Nazis when you compare them to a man who was a virtual spiritual cousin to the Nazi SS troops they fought.

155 posted on 02/01/2003 12:32:39 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
And your idiotic ASSERTION is that just because neo-Nazi's say it,it can't possibly be true?

Tell me, are you permanently drunk?

You have seen that the facts don't fit the fantasy picture you've been fetching from JewWatch, Stormfront, Codoh and sundry others. That doesn't seem to matter to you: the real important thing is that "Just because Nazis say it, it doesn't have to be wrong"? LOL. Go to LibertyForum and join the choir :).

Actually, you seem to have an allergy to facts. Not to mention a few other mental quirks. Now, go follow your leader, garbage.

156 posted on 02/01/2003 3:02:30 AM PST by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Cachelot
Actually, you seem to have an allergy to facts.

You wouldn't recogonize a fact if it bit you on your ass,bigot.

Not to mention a few other mental quirks.

This,from a wannabe terrorist who has cowardly bombers for heroes?

Now, go follow your leader, garbage.

ESAD,Jewish Nazi.

157 posted on 02/01/2003 3:36:41 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
You wouldn't recogonize a fact if it bit you on your ass,bigot.

Rotfl. Let's talk about facts, twitchy.

Twitchy's assertion: the Israeli nuclear program was stolen from the US, as popularly believed by neo-Nazis.

Fact: the Isreali nuclear program was a product of Israel, in cooperation with France, Norway, South Africa and others. The US had nothing to do with the initial stages and very little - except in a commercial sense - with the latter.

Fact: this doesn't seem to faze you, just as it doesn't faze any average denizen of Stormfront.

Twitchy's assertion: the current leader of JDL is Rubin, who is "merely a Air Force veteran".

Fact: Irv Rubin is dead.

Fact: Twitchy's reaction on being shown he doesn't know what he's talking about is "No,I didn't know. I don't keep track of what is happening with religious nutcases any more than I do cockroaches".

You really should stop drowning your brains in whatever it is you're drowning them in. In fact, you're getting stupid. I never figured you for stupid. Mentally unstable perhaps, but not this pitifully dumb ;).

158 posted on 02/01/2003 4:02:47 AM PST by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Cachelot
Twitchy's assertion: the current leader of JDL is Rubin, who is "merely a Air Force veteran". Fact: Irv Rubin is dead.

Maybe you should explain this to the mental midgets who maintain the JDL website? After all,THEY are the ones claiming Rubin is their leader,and THEY are the ones who claim he was a AF veteran. Thean again,maybe they are admitting that a dead man IS the brightest beacon they have to offer?

Fact: Twitchy's reaction on being shown he doesn't know what he's talking about is "No,I didn't know. I don't keep track of what is happening with religious nutcases any more than I do cockroaches".

I knew EXACTLY what I was talking about,something which is obviously foreign to you. I got my information from YOUR web version of Mecca. If I'm wrong,it is only because your own idols are too stupid to realize they still have Rubin listed as the head boar. I do apologize to any cockroaches who may feel I have insulted them,though.

You really should stop drowning your brains in whatever it is you're drowning them in.

At least I have brains,which is more than can be said for the idiots in the JDL.

In fact, you're getting stupid. I never figured you for stupid. Mentally unstable perhaps, but not this pitifully dumb ;).

Are you on a one-man crusade to disprove the old stereotype that all Jews are smart? If so,you are doing a fine job of it.

159 posted on 02/01/2003 4:31:47 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: hope; Quix
Ezekiel 38 and 39 = Armageddon
160 posted on 02/01/2003 5:58:51 AM PST by the-ironically-named-proverbs2
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