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To: sneakypete
Irv Rubin gave his life for what he believed in.

Odd, after 30 years of JDL'ing, fighting the most vicious and dangerous Nazi scum and governments, he dies while in the United States of America's Federal Protective Custody.

As for your Christians comment...Not every battle Irv chose was the wisest. It is widely recoginzed and appreciated that religious Christians are some of Israel's biggest supporters. That won't be forgotten.

If you have the need to rag on the JDL, feel free to FRmail me; I'll ignore it. This will free up others from your JDL associations.

And yes, Irv is a hero of mine, the same as some folks in a Warsaw ghetto 60 years ago.

150 posted on 01/31/2003 9:49:39 PM PST by Abar
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To: Abar
Irv Rubin gave his life for what he believed in.

So did Hitler.

Odd, after 30 years of JDL'ing, fighting the most vicious and dangerous Nazi scum and governments, he dies while in the United States of America's Federal Protective Custody.

He never fought anybody. Setting bombs to blow up unsuspecting people isn't fighting.

As for your Christians comment...Not every battle Irv chose was the wisest.

I'm glad to hear you say that. This means you may be more open-minded than you first appeared to be. Religious bigots of all stripes need to keep in mind that any country that has the power to oppress one religion,has the power to oppress all religions. Or even to DEMAND non-believers such as myself attend religious services. If I am to be able to continue to enjoy the freedom of remaining a non-believer,I HAVE to be able to allow YOU the same freedom to be a Jew,and others to be of whatever faith they follow. You can't endanger one without putting all in danger. No government needs or should have this type of power.

It is widely recoginzed and appreciated that religious Christians are some of Israel's biggest supporters. That won't be forgotten.

The truth is there are probably more rabid pro-Israel fundie Christians in this country than there are pro-Israeli Jews.

If you have the need to rag on the JDL,

I rag on any and all terrorist organizations. Especially the PC ones who use bluster to gain respectability,and who are "protected" by the PC Police.Nobody is hesitant to jump on the KKK,but everybody is afraid of jumping on the JDL because they are afraid of being called anti-Semitic.

And yes, Irv is a hero of mine, the same as some folks in a Warsaw ghetto 60 years ago.

While you have the unquestioned right to have him or anyone else as a hero,you are doing a great disservice to the heroic Jews of the Warsaw ghetto who raised up and fought the Nazis when you compare them to a man who was a virtual spiritual cousin to the Nazi SS troops they fought.

155 posted on 02/01/2003 12:32:39 AM PST by sneakypete
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