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To lead Bush on global warming (Do I really need to say Gag Alert?)
Mpls (red)Star Tribune / New York Times ^ | 7/3/02 | Jumpin Jim Jeffords

Posted on 07/03/2002 5:13:40 AM PDT by Valin

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:36:38 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- It is already too late for the United States to lead the world in the fight against global warming. President Bush saw to that last year, when he abandoned his promise to make power plants reduce the amount of carbon dioxide they send into the air.


(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: evilrepublicans; globalwarming

1 posted on 07/03/2002 5:13:41 AM PDT by Valin
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To: Valin
Who cares what Judas Jeffords has to say about global warming. The less seen and heard from him the better.
2 posted on 07/03/2002 5:21:01 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: Valin
The only way to reduce CO2 emissions is to reduce the burning of fossil fuels. Either drastically shrink the economy or build hundreds of nuke plants.

I'd support the latter, this doofus wouldn't, so he must want the economy to shrink.

3 posted on 07/03/2002 5:45:09 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Some of these dim bulbs would like us to live in caves.
4 posted on 07/03/2002 5:54:58 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Naive innocence of youth alert:
Lets say we DO reduce fossil fuel emissions concurrently with NEW technology (No, I don't have the answer, I am not an engineer) which would, of course, bolster the economy? You know its bound to happen at some point in the next 200 years or so, so why not have Americans lead the way instead of some whiny Eurotrash? Just a thought.
5 posted on 07/03/2002 5:58:18 AM PDT by whattajoke
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To: goldstategop
Benedict Jeffords needs a new rope.
6 posted on 07/03/2002 6:29:35 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Valin
Several states, including New York, New Hampshire and Massachusetts, are acting on their own to limit power-plant emissions. But Washington has a crucial role.

he missed his chance to come clean with that paragraph....maybe if they said they wanted to reduce POLUTION and left out the junk science of global warming I would back them,and,at the same time,leave it up to the STATES to set their own standards....but they continuosy want to federalize it and use junk science to back it...nothing but political play.
I can imagine how many Twin Cities people read this propoganda article and went "Yah,right on!!" but also cheered when we didn't have to have emissions testing anymore.....

7 posted on 07/03/2002 6:37:40 AM PDT by Minnesoootan
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To: Minnesoootan
Algore's next big adventure; a chain of auto emission testing centers called Mr. Kyoto.
8 posted on 07/03/2002 6:39:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: whattajoke
Lets say we DO reduce fossil fuel emissions concurrently with NEW technology (No, I don't have the answer, I am not an engineer) which would, of course, bolster the economy? You know its bound to happen at some point in the next 200 years or so, so why not have Americans lead the way instead of some whiny Eurotrash? Just a thought.

I have no problem with reducing emissions of mercury etc, as long as we weigh the risk versus the cost. Nuke plants emit zero mercury. There is no technology to reduce CO2 emissions from coal burning plants except, burn less coal. If CO2 is such a threat and we don't want to ration electricity, nuke is the only way to go.

If you want to look at other ways to reduce CO2, like seeding the ocean with iron, then lets discuss that.

As far as Eurotrash, don't make me laugh. The only technical innovations they produce are quicker ways to surrender, to the Germans, the Palestinians et.al.

9 posted on 07/03/2002 7:08:06 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot
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To: whattajoke
Lets say we DO reduce fossil fuel emissions concurrently with NEW technology (No, I don't have the answer, I am not an engineer)

We're already behind.

Toyota to market fuel cell cars this year

"Toyota said in a statement it expected full commercialisation of fuel cell vehicles from 2010 at the earliest, once standards were in place and the public better understood hydrogen fuel."

Conversion to hydrogen as a major energy source eliminates a lot of CO2 emissions.

10 posted on 07/03/2002 7:49:10 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator
Conversion to hydrogen as a major energy source eliminates a lot of CO2 emissions.

Maybe. What energy source do you use to produce the hydrogen?

11 posted on 07/03/2002 8:24:15 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Maybe. What energy source do you use to produce the hydrogen?

Solar. Hydrogen Production Techniques: Electrolysis

12 posted on 07/03/2002 12:23:11 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: Toddsterpatriot
http://www.hfcletter.com/letter/august01/

(And yes, I know, scale-up can be a b*tch.)

13 posted on 07/03/2002 12:26:22 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator
Those windmills are cute, but in CA they tend to puree endangered species. How much of the nation would we need to pave with photocells to produce the H2?

I remember an old sci-fiction story where the roads were solar cells.

14 posted on 07/03/2002 12:52:22 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot
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