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'Rock Star' Dole protects lead in key Senate race
USA TODAY ^ | 7/1/02 | William M. Welch

Posted on 07/01/2002 6:29:04 AM PDT by areafiftyone

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:39:42 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

EDENTON, N.C. - When the legendary Dean Smith was basketball coach up the road at the University of North Carolina, fans knew what to expect when his team got the lead. He'd go to his trademark "four corners" slow-down offense to salt away the victory. Elizabeth Dole doesn't call it four corners. She graduated from Duke, in Durham, N.C. But she is pursuing her own run-out-the-clock strategy as she sits on a huge lead in her quest for the U.S. Senate, a critical race in the GOP's bid to retake control of the chamber. The question is whether voters will keep cheering or begin to boo.


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1 posted on 07/01/2002 6:29:04 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
'Rock Star' Dole

She falls somewhere between Bono and Michael Stipe on the political spectrum.

2 posted on 07/01/2002 6:37:43 AM PDT by dead
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To: dead
I'll stick around long enough to vote against her in the primary... and then more than likely withdraw from the Republican party. Here in North Carolina it's fast becoming as bankrupt on principles as the Democrats are. The leadership's shoving Dole in our face sure ain't convincing us otherwise.
3 posted on 07/01/2002 7:11:08 AM PDT by Darth Sidious
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To: Darth Sidious
Erskine Bowles thanks you for your service to the country.

People who care about this country do NOT vote against a candidate who might give us back the Senate.

4 posted on 07/01/2002 7:12:27 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
People who care about this country do NOT vote against a candidate who might give us back the Senate.

And people who care about North Carolina do NOT vote for a hypocrite/backslider as their Senator.

5 posted on 07/01/2002 7:23:04 AM PDT by Darth Sidious
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To: Darth Sidious
She's the best we've got, whether you like it or not. If you vote against her, knowing that the other have absolutely NO chance of winning, you're voting for Erskine Bowles.

Try to live in the real world.

6 posted on 07/01/2002 7:31:40 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
She's the best we've got, whether you like it or not.

"We" here being the Republican party, not necessarily who's best for the people of North Carolina. The only reason you declare her "the best we've got" is that she's got a big fat "R" stamped next to her name. I didn't realize we'd become so cheap.

If you vote against her, knowing that the other have absolutely NO chance of winning, you're voting for Erskine Bowles.

If the others "have no chance of winning", then whose fault is that... their's or the Republican party's leadership? If Bush, Cheney etc. had put their weight behind, say, Jim Parker, you would certainly have no problem declaring them able "to win".

You're confusing star power with principle. And you're also imprisoned by the "either/or" mindset. My vote's going for another candidate... maybe I won't "win" by your standards, but neither will I be a willing slave like yourself.

7 posted on 07/01/2002 7:43:20 AM PDT by Darth Sidious
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To: Darth Sidious
You're confusing star power with principle.

That's always the rejoinder from you people who love being on the outside, isn't it? If I am for somebody you don't deem worthy enough, I've got no principles, right?

It's not my fault you and your friends can't put forth a candidate who is acceptable to the rest of the party. Perhaps you should rethink YOUR principles, eh?

I thought you were going to run for office a while back. Maybe you should. Put YOUR ideas out for the people to see and digest; then let the people decide whether YOU are worthy of their vote or not.

And no matter how you dress it up, if you don't vote for a Republican this time, you ARE casting a vote for a democrat. If the Senate stays in the hands of the Democrats, it will be on the heads of people like you -- people, I suspect, who are more desirious of proving a point than actually putting people in who will at least TRY to change this country -- you know, the country you whine about all the time.

You cannot have your way every single time; the days of the strident right wingers is gone; we have a country to run -- and to run it, we need the Senate.

If you decide to vote AGAINST somebody instead of FOR the rest of us, don't come around here whining when things don't get done.

8 posted on 07/01/2002 7:50:23 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Darth Sidious
but neither will I be a willing slave like yourself.

You have NO idea how silly that makes you look when you type stuff like that. Thank God you're in the minority.

The rest of us care about this country; you only care about yourself.

9 posted on 07/01/2002 7:51:50 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin; Darth Sidious
She's the best we've got, whether you like it or not. If you vote against her, knowing that the other have absolutely NO chance of winning, you're voting for Erskine Bowles.

AND you're voting for Sen. Daschle for majority leader. If you disagree with Daschle's actions, in particular his obstructionist tactics relating to judicial nominees receiving a vote, then you should realize that since she is our only chance to retain this seat. If you vote against her you are also voting to keep Daschle as Senate majority leader.

10 posted on 07/01/2002 8:05:18 AM PDT by callisto
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To: Howlin
You cannot have your way every single time; the days of the strident right wingers is gone; we have a country to run -- and to run it, we need the Senate.

America doesn't "need" to be run by the Senate. It doesn't need to be run by anyone, for that matter.

Once again you've betrayed your real desire: power and control. The Senate is one part of the control you desire. Whether or not you deserve control is beyond your consideration.

Do you really believe that Bush and the Republican party are so important that the world would come crashing down into ruin if they were not there? Do you believe that America absolutely must turn over the keys of the kingdom to people like you?

Why should it?

11 posted on 07/01/2002 8:10:53 AM PDT by Darth Sidious
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To: Darth Sidious
Do you believe that America absolutely must turn over the keys of the kingdom to people like you?

Oh, no, I'd much rather people like you be in charge; people who don't think ANYBODY except themselves has a valid idea; people who think the word "compromise" is a dirty word; people who would much rather inflict their strident, hypocritical views on others.

People like you who think only WHITE CHRISTIANS should have an opinion on anything. People who believe that anybody that doesn't believe like they do shouldn't have ANY INPUT at all.

You can call me all the names you want to; you can insinuate I have no principles; you can slander anybody who isn't as far to the right as you are.

But as I said, if you give Erskine Bowles and Tom Daschle to continue to carry this country on the road to ruin, you're no better than the ones you look down your nose at.

12 posted on 07/01/2002 8:16:50 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Darth Sidious
Do you believe that America absolutely must turn over the keys of the kingdom to people like you? Why should it?

You sound as if you'd like those keys to the kingdom handed over to you. I gathered no such implication from Howlin's words. She understands the position our country is in and what it's going to take to start reversing years of damage. The start must come with control of the Senate with people who will vote for President Bush's judicial nominees(who BTW are very conservative) and relinquish judicial control by liberal court activists.

13 posted on 07/01/2002 8:19:36 AM PDT by callisto
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To: Howlin
Thanks for giving me a laugh today... it's always fun to watch a Bushbot self-destruct.
14 posted on 07/01/2002 8:19:44 AM PDT by Darth Sidious
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To: Darth Sidious
Since you used the terms "BushBot" I guess I can assume you have nothing else to offer, right? How did that come into the conversation? Your argument is specious. No matter what your retort, you are putting yourself before this country. Period.

BTW, just so I'll know you know, we don't consider being called a BushBot a smear; it's akin to being called a "Clinton hater." And the same types of people are doing the calling -- people who are trying to manipulate US.

15 posted on 07/01/2002 8:23:56 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Darth Sidious
it's always fun to watch a Bushbot self-destruct.

From my reading of your discussion with Howlin, I'd say YOU are the one self-destructing.

16 posted on 07/01/2002 8:36:03 AM PDT by mombonn
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To: Howlin
[[[But as I said, if you give Erskine Bowles and Tom Daschle to continue to carry this country on the road to ruin, you're no better than the ones you look down your nose at.]]]

Well said!

I'm rooting for Liddy. She's a good person and she will do a good job as Senator. Erskine is slime!

17 posted on 07/01/2002 8:36:20 AM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong
I'm sure the DLC apprecaites Darth Sidious' attitude. After all, that's one less vote they have to worry about, right?
18 posted on 07/01/2002 8:39:09 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: mombonn
Yup, get one of the Bush Harem riled up and they ALL come running...
19 posted on 07/01/2002 8:42:11 AM PDT by Darth Sidious
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To: Darth Sidious
That's it. Try to change the discussion from your selfishness to others. Works for liberals, why not for you?
20 posted on 07/01/2002 9:10:52 AM PDT by Howlin
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