Microsoft's Palladium project and the Wild West mentality on the Internet

Copyright 2002 - World Tech Tribune.com ^ | June 28, 2002 | Scott McCollum

[Scott McCollum]

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“Regardless of what some leftist self-appointed libertarian Internet watchdogs and privacy advocates will try to say, the citizens living in the nineteenth century are nowhere close to being as 'free' as those fortunate enough to be alive now. The privacy advocates are right about Microsoft’s vision of Palladium; it is a technology that wants to turn the Internet from lawless Wild West into an orderly suburban neighborhood. You know, gated communities much like those hypocritical privacy advocates live in.”

[Scott McCollum]

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[Michael Barnes]

uh-huh...and those gated communities usually have homeowners associations that are more controlling than anything else..No thank you, I'll stick to the wild west if you don't mind..

[Redcloak]

You sound like some sort of subversive, left-wing, libertarian, open source cultist.

You need to be closely watched. This is why we need Palladium; to track the internet activities of pinko-commies like you.

;^)

[newgeezer]

It has often been said that the Internet is similar to the “Wild West” and should be kept that way, because that was a time were people (mostly men with guns) were truly free to roam and explore.

BARF ALERT.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

The real purpose of Palladium is to lock out Open Source/Linux/GPL and kill them.

Microsoft Good, Competition Bad.

[Redcloak]

You also sound supicious to me. You need to be monitored. It should be a crime to use a non-Palladium system; even if it's not connected to the internet. You open source cultists are dangerous.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

The outcry against Palladium doesn’t really stem from a concern about your privacy, but more from a vocal minority who wish to impose their anarchistic schemes onto us under the guise of “freedom” and “liberty.”

Anyone who thinks "freedom" and "liberty" are important is deranged.

Orwell was right. Freedom is slavery.

[steve-b]

It has often been said that the Internet is similar to the “Wild West” and should be kept that way, because that was a time were people (mostly men with guns) were truly free to roam and explore.

Back to your DUmpster, troll.

[stylin_geek]

From reading the article, this appears to be another case of wanting to have it both ways..the same people who screamed about internet security and the vulnerability of home pc's to hackers are now screaming because Microsoft is going to try and make it as hard as possible for an intruder to get information from web transactions. The only way to create this kind of security is to integrate software and hardware on both ends. It is a massive project, and it appears that Microsoft is going to spend billions to develop this standard.

[steve-b]

Nonsense; there are plenty of ways to prevent intruders from stealing information without giving Billgatus of Borg a veto at the hardware level over which software can run on your system.

[SoDak]

I agree. Yee-Haw!!

[Michael Barnes]

ROFLMAO....

YOU'LL NEVER GET ME FACIST!!!!

[DrDavid]

I agree.

[Psycho_Bunny]

Like all of Microsofts software, Palladium will be hacked while it's still in the Beta stage.

[Psycho_Bunny]

I said this on another thread about Palladium and it bears repeating:

I've been writing a piece of music and recorded a draft of it about a week ago onto my Win2000 machine with SoundForge.  I then converted it to .mp3 with AudioCatalyst and uploaded it to my website.

Yesterday I downloaded it on my personal laptop at work, so I could hear it through different speakers.  When I opened it with Media Player 7, the digital media security kernel kicked in and brought up a dialog box stating that I was opening a piece of music "recorded from a CD" and asking me if I wanted "migrate my license" and warning me about copyright infringements.

ON MY OWN MUSIC AND ON MY OWN MACHINES.

If such a simple security concept is already that screwed up, how does MS think it's going to credibly expand in that area?  Palladium will just continue to prove that MS has expanded into markets it can't competently code in.

[Wisconsin]

What do you mean?

What about Microsoft's right to compete? Unless it can get all of the major chip manufacturers to agree with it to lock out Linux/GPL, it won't be able to compete. Their stuff doesn't cost anything and its better.


What could be less American than free software?

[Michael Barnes]

..Palladium will be hacked while it's still in the Beta stage.

Good! Hack the crap out of it during beta, just don't releae a product of beta quality.

[Redcloak]

Don't you mean that it will be distributed while it's still in beta??

[B Knotts]

What could be less American than free software?

Centrally-planned software.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

What could be less American than free software?

Free healthcare?