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HANG 'EM HIGH: Tougher Talk on Scandal; Jail Time Calls
AP ^ | 6/27/02 | Neal Lipschutz

Posted on 06/27/2002 2:29:31 PM PDT by Liz

NEW YORK (Dow Jones/AP) - You don't hear much from the bond market vigilantes anymore, but there's new talk of rough justice on Wall Street. The bond market vigilantes rose to prominence in the early 1990s by pushing bond prices down and interest rates up at the slightest whiff of inflationary government spending plans. Such noble public policy gestures were, of course, also in the vigilantes' self interest.

Now in our time of the great executive suite fraud, America's wild West mythology and terminology again is being dragged out.

U.S. Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill almost actually said "hang 'em high." He did say, according to The Wall Street Journal, that corporate officers who have broken the law and misused the public trust deserve "to hang ... from the very highest branches."

Thursday, he added on a television program, "We are going to take away these excuses. If CEOs and CFOs certify what is true, and if they falsely certify, they are going to go to jail, and we think that is the right step."

Also Thursday, AMR Corp. Chief Executive Officer Donald Carty said executive law-breakers need to be vigorously prosecuted and the government needs to "send a bunch of people to prison" to restore public confidence.

The calls for wayward executives to be placed behind bars, to be forced to disgorge earnings and assets and to otherwise be significantly and forcefully punished are many and they will continue.

The revelations of accounting malfeasance at WorldCom, the latest in the long and surely not completed list of corporate scandal, has worn patience to the breaking point among investors, government officials and the general public.

It seems much more likely now that reforms with teeth are going to pass through Congress on accounting oversight and get signed by the president. It seems much more likely now that the Securities and Exchange Commission will get more adequate funding for its extraordinarily expanded and crucial role in rule-making and enforcement. It seems much more likely now that corporate governance will see real reform and corporate boards, by definition imperfect, will generally grow more independent of corporate management.

And it seems increasingly likely that the penalties dished out for those eventually convicted by juries of white collar crimes will include jail time.

There is a growing anger and appetite to make responsible people pay for the litany of scandals that fairly or not is now often blamed for the bleak state of U.S. equity markets.

There is a growing anger in a United States that finds its boastful corporate capitalism, so recently lecturing to the world on how it is done, now tarnished at home and around the globe.

There have been studies and controversy about whether strict jail sentences act as a deterrent to crime.

The world of white collar, corporate crime is likely now to get a few more tough sentences for future study.

- Neal Lipschutz is senior editor, Americas, Dow Jones Newswires.

AP-ES-06-27-02 1659EDT


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 06/27/2002 2:29:31 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Grampa Dave; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Dog; d14truth; mhking; rohry; ken5050
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2 posted on 06/27/2002 2:31:24 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
There have been studies and controversy about whether strict jail sentences act as a deterrent to crime. The world of white collar, corporate crime is likely now to get a few more tough sentences for future study.

I would rather see jail time than prison. Federal prisons are not known as "Club Fed" for nothing. As a GI who saw federal prisoners living easier than our armed forces, I say, "Send 'em to jail." Send them to East LA and let them serve their time with real bad boys, send them to AZ to spent time in a hardback and then send them to AL to learn the meaning of chain gang. Don't send them to a country club with all the amenities!

3 posted on 06/27/2002 2:37:58 PM PDT by antidisestablishment
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To: Liz
Martha and other Rat criminals who lived by the Goron motto of "No controlling Legal Authority, may be changing their Depends at a faster rate after hearing this:

U.S. Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill almost actually said "hang 'em high." He did say, according to The Wall Street Journal, that corporate officers who have broken the law and misused the public trust deserve "to hang ... from the very highest branches."

Maybe Jake Reno and her blubber Bubba Clinton will visit their friends in their new surroundings?

Thursday, O Neill added on a television program, "We are going to take away these excuses. If CEOs and CFOs certify what is true, and if they falsely certify, they are going to go to jail, and we think that is the right step."

4 posted on 06/27/2002 2:43:56 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Liz
So what's new on Enron hangings?
5 posted on 06/27/2002 2:48:06 PM PDT by ex-snook
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To: Grampa Dave
Maybe Jake Reno and her blubber Bubba Clinton will visit their friends in their new surroundings?

That oughta be a cozy little group......have a lot to talk about, eh?

6 posted on 06/27/2002 2:58:16 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Grampa Dave
There is no doubt whatsoever that Martha Stewart would have escaped all accountability if this had happened while Mrs. Clinton was in still in charge.

Mrs. Clinton probably doesn't think this is a good thing.

7 posted on 06/27/2002 2:59:38 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Liz
Our jails are full of punks who's only offense was to smoke or grow weed-all the while we've got a bunch of smart ass Ivy league types getting away with ripping off investors to the tune of millions (probably snorting blow too).

Does anyone see a problem here?

The old NAACP analogy of a classist (racist in many cases) enforcement of law is rings true.

8 posted on 06/27/2002 3:06:31 PM PDT by zarf
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To: Ken H
Wouldn't you love to catch the Hilldebeast off guard and hear how she really feels about her sister Martha realizing that there might be A Controlling Legal Authority!"
9 posted on 06/27/2002 3:07:36 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Liz
sorta has a ring to it...


10 posted on 06/27/2002 3:11:39 PM PDT by glock rocks
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To: antidisestablishment
bump
11 posted on 06/27/2002 3:13:59 PM PDT by timestax
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To: Liz
This is the ethics of those in fiduciary capacities, in an era when everyone plays verbal games, to skirt clear duties.

The idea that one in a position of trust--with clear obligations towards those who are supposed to be the benefiaries of that trust (in the case of Corporate C.E.O.s to the owners--shareholders--and in the case of politicians to the public, as defined by the Constitution)--should even be looking for verbal loopholes to escape the clear priorities of that trust, bespeaks the degenerate lack of real values of our times.

It does not excuse the individual malefactor--not the WorldCom or Enron executive, nor the majority of Congressmen and Senators--that so many others play the same game. But we will not see the end of it until people, generally, once again truly start to understand the concepts of duty, honor and the limitations of office.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

12 posted on 06/27/2002 3:15:06 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: ex-snook
Last I heard Kenny Boy was still living pretty good.
13 posted on 06/27/2002 3:23:20 PM PDT by steve50
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To: Ken H
While much of the theft appears to have happened under the klintoon administration, the Bush DOJ is now in office. How long can we blame this on Snowball, till after the 04 elections?
14 posted on 06/27/2002 3:28:41 PM PDT by steve50
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To: Ohioan
But we will not see the end of it until people, generally, once again truly start to understand the concepts of duty, honor and the limitations of office.

No offense Bill but when do you expect this to occur? Our lifetime? I think not!

J

15 posted on 06/27/2002 3:31:30 PM PDT by J. L. Chamberlain
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But we will not see the end of it until people, generally, once again truly start to understand the concepts of duty, honor and the limitations of office.

No offense Bill but when do you expect this to occur? Our lifetime? I think not!

I cannot even aspire to the level of foresight, as would make a prediction on that possible. That we are coming to the end of an era, I believe to be obvious. As to what comes next, no one can accurately predict. But one hangs around this venue, hoping to stir up thought that will go into the dynamic. We could wallow in a form of philosophic chaos for generations, I suppose; or something could trigger a general wakeup among intelligent Americans, tomorrow. Your guess is as good as mine.

But we do need to identify the problem, even if it is not easily solved. A change in social pressures--in public perceptions of right and wrong approaches--can be a powerful force for good or ill.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

16 posted on 06/27/2002 3:43:56 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Liz
Who are you going to hang high? The Ponsi schemers from GE and CNBC who are pumping and dumping stocks, while at the same time barking at and destroying anyone who is not aligned with their scheme? Or maybe just put a couple of executives in jail, and you think that will solve anything?
The party is coming to an end very soon. The market may go up, but the only cure for this insanity and political corruption is Wall Street 1000, and then maybe people will understand, maybe for a generation or so, no longer.
Wall Street and NASAQ are not markets - they are excessive schemes, and ask your self this question: is America a capitalistic society? Or just a couple of Ponsi schemers on CNBC, CNN, and other media channels trying to make a buck by lying, cheating and stealing with their fellow executives?
17 posted on 06/27/2002 3:45:24 PM PDT by Tasha
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To: Tasha
Who are you going to hang high? The Ponsi schemers from GE and CNBC who are pumping and dumping stocks, while at the same time barking at and destroying anyone who is not aligned with their scheme? Or maybe just put a couple of executives in jail, and you think that will solve anything? The party is coming to an end very soon. The market may go up, but the only cure for this insanity and political corruption is Wall Street 1000, and then maybe people will understand, maybe for a generation or so, no longer

Therein lies the problem. People such as yourself who want to make everyone suffer for the actions of a few.

18 posted on 06/27/2002 3:53:26 PM PDT by Moonman62
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To: Moonman62
No, the problem is with people who are so stupid they can't tie their shoes. They're electing corrupt politicians over and over again. Maybe when Wall Street is 1,000 the morons will learn the lesson the hard way and finally start electing decent and honest people to office.
I have said for a long time, the price of crooked clitnon and his administration is going to be high, and we're all going to pay for it. Nothing is for free and this is just the beginning. Watch the reprecussions from the Europeans and the other countries, which are already calling America a corrupt, third world country.
Say thank you to fuehrer clinton and his corrupt boys and girl.
19 posted on 06/27/2002 4:00:06 PM PDT by Tasha
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To: Moonman62
With all this justifiable comment on the fraudulent misrepresentation of bonds and equities why don't we consider all bonds? How do you think a foreign investor feels after committing himself to United States bonds after being assured there is a big surplus in the offing? This was not misleading and fraudulent representation of securities? Wake up! This nation is absolutely corrupt from the top down to the lowest level.
20 posted on 06/27/2002 5:28:55 PM PDT by meenie
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